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gently caress, okay, there is officially too much drat Star Wars. I gotta do a quick-watch of the best stuff from the animated EU before starting Bad Batch. Is there, like, a list of 6-8 episodes from Rebels that would give me the main ideas & plot arc? Also is Clone Wars worth watching?
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Rebels comes after Bad Batch, so you can worry about that later.
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Jun 1, 2021 13:17
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mdemone posted:Also is Clone Wars worth watching? Absolutely. You might not need to watch all 133 episodes, but even trying to hit the many high points is probably gonna run you 50+ episodes easily and eventually includes almost few entire seasons later on. Similarly, I don’t know if Rebels can be cut down to just 6-8 episodes, particularly due to the importance of a few two parters and a lot of what happens in the last season.
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Jun 1, 2021 13:25
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Hmm, sounds like I'll just watch CW straight through and fast-forward through any boring bits. Rebels after BB, gotcha. That will make it a bit easier.
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Jun 1, 2021 15:17
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Rebels doesn’t really have any straight filler the way early Clone Wars does. Even when it’s an adventure of the week it ties into the overarching story, sometimes unexpectedly. There’s definitely episodes I felt like “eh I could probably skip this one” 10 minutes in only to realize it was extremely important by the end. Clone Wars is pretty much watch by like, late season 3/start of season 4 in terms of not having any throwaway episodes. But before that there’s still a lot of important content that for whatever reason gets left off a lot of essential viewing lists. For every Bombad Jedi there’s a The Deserter. It’s a lot of bullshit homework but if you’re into it I’d definitely cross reference a few different lists to make sure you’re not missing any of the pure strain Good content
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Jun 1, 2021 15:41
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mdemone posted:Hmm, sounds like I'll just watch CW straight through and fast-forward through any boring bits. Things you shouldn't fast forward: Darth Maul's arc, any arc lead by clone troopers(a bit links to Dad Batch) and anything Mandalore (a lot links to the Mandalorian). I think the only things you can skip are some droid centered episodes, and "the sisters" arc in season 7.
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Jun 1, 2021 15:56
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mdemone posted:Hmm, sounds like I'll just watch CW straight through and fast-forward through any boring bits. As should always be mentioned, keep in mind broadcast order isn’t chronological for Clone Wars. Some people don’t mind that, and by mid season 3 it more or less settles into it (Or at least doesn’t have any major shifting back and forth in the timeline), but I know that was part of the reason I’d didn’t like the show the first time I tried to watch it forever ago, and when I went and did it mostly chronologically, I enjoyed it a ton more.
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Jun 1, 2021 16:09
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mdemone posted:gently caress, okay, there is officially too much drat Star Wars. TCW Chronological order I know 133 episodes seems daunting, but you don't need to watch it all at once If you want to get ready to watch Bad Batch, the relevant episodes are (S1/3) - Clone Cadets - Rookies - ARC Troopers (S2) - The Deserter (S3) - The Citadel - Counter Attack - Citadel Rescue (S4) - Darkness on Umbara - The General - Plan of Dissent - Carnage of Krell (S6) - The Unknown - Conspiracy - Fugitive - Orders (S7) - The Bad Batch - A Distant Echo - On The Wings Of Keeradaks - Unfinished Business About a week's worth of watching if you watch one batch a day, just in time to then binge Bad Batch
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Jun 1, 2021 16:15
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Desperado Bones posted:Things you shouldn't fast forward: Darth Maul's arc, any arc lead by clone troopers(a bit links to Dad Batch) and anything Mandalore (a lot links to the Mandalorian). I think the only things you can skip are some droid centered episodes, and "the sisters" arc in season 7. Man I loved the sisters arc in S7. It drags a bit with that one pointless episode that’s just them being caught, escaping, then being caught again but I feel like it’s big for Ahsoka’s character development, and kind of represents my favorite part of these shows with how they let us see the Star Wars from the perspective of regular rear end people and ground our protagonist a bit. Same reason Bill Burr’s Mando character rocks. Also it gave us that great scene on Kessel I think where the younger sister is marveling at “all the droids” until it’s pointed out that those aren’t crowds of droids, they’re slaves. And when she’s like “no way, the Reublic would never allow it” Ahsoka is just like “you’d think that” or whatever. Plus it does link up Ahsoka and Bo Katan, setting up the 4 part finale.
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Jun 1, 2021 16:47
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mdemone posted:gently caress, okay, there is officially too much drat Star Wars. The TV shows, animated and otherwise, aren't "EU," they're 100% canon on par with the movies. And what's the rush? The episodes aren't going to be taken down or anything. Take your time and enjoy some Star Wars.
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Jun 1, 2021 16:49
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yeah there’s no real hurry to power through or anything. I’m probably gonna go back and watch the clone wars filler I skipped at some point there’s always more Star Wars in the Star Wars stand
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Jun 1, 2021 16:51
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Moon Slayer posted:The TV shows, animated and otherwise, aren't "EU," they're 100% canon on par with the movies. Lol I gotta get at least something in before my honeymoon at Galaxy's Edge in July So I know what saber to get. 🥴
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Jun 1, 2021 16:57
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Mandrel posted:Man I loved the sisters arc in S7. It drags a bit with that one pointless episode that’s just them being caught, escaping, then being caught again but I feel like it’s big for Ahsoka’s character development, and kind of represents my favorite part of these shows with how they let us see the Star Wars from the perspective of regular rear end people and ground our protagonist a bit. Same reason Bill Burr’s Mando character rocks. Indeed it drags, but a lot and I got severely bored with the sisters story, but that was just me. It was probably the pacing, I dunno. (I skipped to the last episode of that arc anyways lol).
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Jun 1, 2021 17:19
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https://www.starwars.com/series/the-bad-batch/rampage-episode-guide Episode guide up for Bad Batch, relevant info about the Muchi/Pateesa thing: "Muchi, the young rancor rescued by the Bad Batch, is delivered to Bib Fortuna for Jabba the Hutt, As we know from Star Wars: Return of the Jedi, the slimy crimelord enjoys keeping these creatures as pets." Seems to lean more to them being separate rancors.
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Jun 1, 2021 17:25
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The writers seem to treat Muchi as the same as Pateesa
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Jun 1, 2021 17:38
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Also brought a smile to my face that the episode that features two large monsters punching each other was named "Rampage"  The 2018 movie with The Rock is the only good American-made kaiju movie, come at me.
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Jun 1, 2021 17:41
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Moon Slayer posted:Also brought a smile to my face that the episode that features two large monsters punching each other was named "Rampage" Wait til James Gunn gets his crack at it
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Jun 1, 2021 17:43
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mdemone posted:Lol I gotta get at least something in before my honeymoon at Galaxy's Edge in July
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Jun 1, 2021 17:59
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Arquinsiel posted:The answer is Ahsoka's. Yeah I'm kinda leaning that way but which onnnneeeee
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Jun 1, 2021 18:03
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All of them.
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Jun 1, 2021 18:31
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mdemone posted:gently caress, okay, there is officially too much drat Star Wars. I followed this guide, probably fairly similar to what @Vinylshadow said, but I don't know which episode numbers correspond with which titles. It worked out well, I've felt like I've known what was going on in every bad batch episode I've seen so far. https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/mu9bui/clone_wars_rewatch_order_for_the_upcoming_bad/
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Jun 1, 2021 18:38
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mdemone posted:Yeah I'm kinda leaning that way but which onnnneeeee Ahsoka’s is one of three sabers they’ve recently discontinued, so you may want to prioritize it (assuming they still have any in stock).
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Jun 1, 2021 19:08
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Bad Batch is probably going to get more mileage out of Saw and the Partisans, so the episodes from season 5 that show Saw's origin make sense (5x2-5x5) Wouldn't really call Trespass (1x15), Sphere of Influence (3x4) or Heroes on Both Sides (3x10) prereqs for BB though, although that may very well change as more episodes come out, so... Might very well be easier to list relevant episodes that tie into a BB episode after it airs "Oh, an episode with Zygerrian Slavers. If you want to know more about them, watch Slaves of the Republic (4x12) and Escape from Kadavo (4x13)"
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Jun 1, 2021 19:14
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Cage Kicker posted:Honestly I just want Shadows of the Empire Speaking of, that kid that everyone thought was Muchi was kid Prince Xizor right? Because, poetry if so.
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AndyElusive posted:Speaking of, that kid that everyone thought was Muchi was kid Prince Xizor right? Because, poetry if so. Xizor was already grown up in Clone Wars, he’s seen talking to Maul with the other gang leaders a few times
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Jun 1, 2021 21:22
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I skimmed through Clone Wars with a couple of the watch lists. By season five they’ve got some lovely bits. Ahsoka became a lot better once they gave her a costume change and stopped treating her like walking exposition. Rebels starts out a lot stronger and has the benefit of a tighter cast. There aren’t 1000 interchangeable Jedi masters to blaze through so many cannon fodder droids. Plus Chopper is awesome. HK-47 as an astromech is right, the last episode I watched had him bludgeon a guy with a stolen droid leg and it was magnificent. One other thing is that you can SEE the Rebellion fleet growing and it gives it a magnificent sense of scale that’s lacking in the Clone Wars. Somehow hundreds of clones mutually annihilating hundreds of droids over and over isn’t as impressive in comparison.
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Jet Jaguar posted:I skimmed through Clone Wars with a couple of the watch lists. By season five they’ve got some lovely bits. Ahsoka became a lot better once they gave her a costume change and stopped treating her like walking exposition. The best part was seeing Chopper, The Ghost, and a shout-out to Hera up on the big screen. I was SO excited when that happened. The tie-in to Rebels was the only time they've got it right, episode about hammerships being good at ramming stuff, then show it in the movie too? I'm gonna go watch Rogue One again.
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Jun 1, 2021 22:15
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The episode where Hera test pilots the B-Wing and the soundtrack is just literally The Rocketeer because the guy who directed The Rocketeer is literally the guy who designed the B-Wing was when I realized Rebels was something else.
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Jun 2, 2021 02:21
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Yeah there's a reason that Mon Cal is called Quarrie. A lot of Rebels is a love-letter to the design process behind the OT, though I don't think it always lands (like with the thin lightsabers).
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Jun 2, 2021 02:26
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Yeah there's a reason that Mon Cal is called Quarrie. Oh man I never even put that together 
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Jun 2, 2021 02:34
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Yeah there's a reason that Mon Cal is called Quarrie. The other thing I love about Rebels is that the space battle scenes give me really strong X-Wing vibes (the games). (which really captured the style of the OT really well)
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Yeah there's a reason that Mon Cal is called Quarrie. I like the thin lightsabers. After all, they're sabres, not broadswords. My only gripe is that they don't go overboard enough with them. A weapon used by people who can move fast enough to block blaster bolts, see into the future and have magically enhanced physical abilities - those swords should constantly be either moving so fast they look like a Tron light cycle or are completely still, like a Samurai standoff.
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I’m not a huge fan of the ANH-style thin sabers, but I do prefer them over the current “off the shelf Black Series with a little post work” designs they’ve been using in the live-action stuff. Nothing beats the way the old rotoscoped OT sabers moved and flashed.
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I like the Clone Wars style, especially with the way they swept out large blocks of colour.hannibal posted:The other thing I love about Rebels is that the space battle scenes give me really strong X-Wing vibes (the games). (which really captured the style of the OT really well) The ease with which they kill capital ships irrationally bugs me and it's entirely from playing a lot of X-Wing and West End PnP.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I like the Clone Wars style, especially with the way they swept out large blocks of colour.
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Jun 2, 2021 06:29
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Rebels got a bit goofy with how many Star Destroyers they took out by the end of the series to the point they might as well have been TIE Fighters for how durable they were
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Jun 2, 2021 06:30
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Vinylshadow posted:Rebels got a bit goofy with how many Star Destroyers they took out by the end of the series to the point they might as well have been TIE Fighters for how durable they were Idk if there was any intermediate class of ship that was in canon at the time for that though. Basically the ships went from single-person fighters, ships big enough for a small crew, cargo ships (when including cargo space), then Star Destroyers of various sizes.
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Xelkelvos posted:Idk if there was any intermediate class of ship that was in canon at the time for that though. Basically the ships went from single-person fighters, ships big enough for a small crew, cargo ships (when including cargo space), then Star Destroyers of various sizes. Blowing up light cruisers that only come with 2-4 TIE escorts is fine, but (active) Star Destroyers should've been the "oh gently caress we need to get out of here yesterday" threat, and we got a little of that with Thrawn, at least
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Xelkelvos posted:Idk if there was any intermediate class of ship that was in canon at the time for that though. Basically the ships went from single-person fighters, ships big enough for a small crew, cargo ships (when including cargo space), then Star Destroyers of various sizes. Rebels does a really good job of having a bunch of things between fighters and Star Destroyers. They all die really easily but there's a great variety in how big they are before they blow up. Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Jun 2, 2021 |
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Apart from the B-Wing with the magic cannon, I think most of the Star Destroyers they blew up on Rebels, were from sabotaging stuff on the inside. Like the power and shield generators with their raised walkways with no railings and anyone falling off causes the ship to blow up.
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