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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/benmauk/status/1397906197995474945

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Bot 02
Apr 2, 2010

Dude... Did my plushie just talk?
What does tankie even mean anymore? It used to be "Stalinist" or something, but now it just seems to refer to any socialist who is not an anarchist?

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Bot 02 posted:

What does tankie even mean anymore? It used to be "Stalinist" or something, but now it just seems to refer to any socialist who is not an anarchist?

you are correct. especially easy shorthand for bernie/corbyn lovers

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Bot 02 posted:

What does tankie even mean anymore? It used to be "Stalinist" or something, but now it just seems to refer to any socialist who is not an anarchist?

even anarchists who think “US intervention in Syria/Bolivia/Venezuela/China is bad” can catch the t-slur

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Bot 02 posted:

What does tankie even mean anymore? It used to be "Stalinist" or something, but now it just seems to refer to any socialist who is not an anarchist?

I just have very strong feelings about driving tanks into Czechoslovakia, OK?

genericnick has issued a correction as of 14:09 on Jun 2, 2021

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Bot 02 posted:

What does tankie even mean anymore? It used to be "Stalinist" or something, but now it just seems to refer to any socialist who is not an anarchist?

it's a socialist that defends any country that the US otherwise considers an enemy, on the basis that that country is actually oppressing its population (which is why they're the enemy of the US), and so by defending them, you are upholding the spirit of the people who continued to defend the Soviet Union even after they crushed the [MI6-instigated] Hungarian uprising of 1956

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Tankies are people who are right all the time. It's a tough burden to bear, but I'm willing to make the sacrifice.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

A tankie is someone who points out that bellingcat is funded by the feds.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
we should retweet whatever the enemy opposes and not retweet whatever the enemy supports

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013




They can't just settle for mass rape & organ harvesting, there's always gotta be some supremely stupid lie to really juice things up.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
can't believe this skit aired on our national broadcasting station a few years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTCqXlDjx18

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Beijing will nickel & dime its way to European conquest with a series of observation posts snaking across central Asia.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Tankies are people who are right all the time. It's a tough burden to bear, but I'm willing to make the sacrifice.

Glenn is libertarian

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Glenn is libertarian

Back to the cesspit with you.

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Bot 02 posted:

What does tankie even mean anymore? It used to be "Stalinist" or something, but now it just seems to refer to any socialist who is not an anarchist?

There's definitely a small amount of toxic, extremely online tankies (looking at the pro-NK types) but it does get used as a broad brush to apply to anyone who is anti-US now.

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1400076676843909126?s=19

China definitely needs to improve its soft power status. Can't let Japan and Korea hog the limelight.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/airforcelk/status/1400020419000901636?s=20

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/6/2/sri-lanka-disaster-feared-as-fire-hit-chemical-cargo-ship-sinks

The X-Press Pearl has sunk off the coast of Sri Lanka. A fire broke out on the 20th of May and wasn't exhausted until the 27th. It sunk today as they tried to tow it out into deep ocean.

It is carrying 25 tonnes of nitric acid, sodium hydroxide, and other chemicals. Along with 28 containers of raw materials used to make plastic bags. Plus 300 tons of oil in it's fuel tanks.

No oil thus far, but the beaches are awash with plastic pellets and chemicals. A fishing ban along 50 miles of coast has been put in place.

https://twitter.com/SCMPNews/status/1399916427943956481?s=19

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


Plastic is a natural part of the ocean's ecosystem, I don't see what the problem is? it's like complaining that this part of the ocean is particularly wet, just stupid. and the chemicals are just chemicals, chemicals have always existed

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

TeenageArchipelago posted:

Plastic is a natural part of the ocean's ecosystem, I don't see what the problem is? it's like complaining that this part of the ocean is particularly wet, just stupid. and the chemicals are just chemicals, chemicals have always existed

really makes you think

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


Not So Fast posted:

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1400076676843909126?s=19

China definitely needs to improve its soft power status. Can't let Japan and Korea hog the limelight.

i will hug u president xi

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


Not So Fast posted:

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1400076676843909126?s=19

China definitely needs to improve its soft power status. Can't let Japan and Korea hog the limelight.

tbf, China has Li Ziqi, what more soft power do you need?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KfvUCKxCts

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Pener Kropoopkin posted:



They can't just settle for mass rape & organ harvesting, there's always gotta be some supremely stupid lie to really juice things up.

how does she purport to have had access to high level military planning documents? I can’t recall any time a US political prisoner just happened to be in a Pentagon strategy session

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Not So Fast posted:

There's definitely a small amount of toxic, extremely online tankies (looking at the pro-NK types) but it does get used as a broad brush to apply to anyone who is anti-US now.

there are absolutely pisshole abusive MLs on Twitter but define “pro-NK” please

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

indigi posted:

how does she purport to have had access to high level military planning documents? I can’t recall any time a US political prisoner just happened to be in a Pentagon strategy session

That's how it works in the movies. The good guy gets tortured, and then overhears all the compromising details of the villain's evil plan. Doi.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

TeenageArchipelago posted:

tbf, China has Li Ziqi, what more soft power do you need?

Grandpa Amu obviously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYkgEf3eWqA

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013



had never seen his videos before but yeah he owns too

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Bot 02 posted:

What does tankie even mean anymore? It used to be "Stalinist" or something, but now it just seems to refer to any socialist who is not an anarchist?

Khrushchev sent tanks to crush some cia sponsored revolt and Stalin becomes a tankie


anarchists although comrades, are scatter brained freaks

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Not So Fast posted:

China definitely needs to improve its soft power status. Can't let Japan and Korea hog the limelight.
reading that, they're like, yeah, we tried to present the green happy face instead of the red angry wolf warrior face in the hopes that the western countries will like us, and when we defend ourselves, they call us wolf warriors anyways, so we might as well just own up to that, but not be too cringy about it.

then i'll look at a domestic trailer for one of the party anniversary shows and there are tanks, hammers and sickles, karl marx, mao issuing orders and soldiers charging into battle. the comments are fun too. "wow, i liked it. so moved." i think they should just bombard twitter with this stuff, video clips of mao in the 1950s sounding like a big cannon, but they probably know more about their PR situation than i do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pJzU9lvRw0

BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 20:31 on Jun 2, 2021

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:



They can't just settle for mass rape & organ harvesting, there's always gotta be some supremely stupid lie to really juice things up.
A fun exercise is to take statements like "China has already started to test it's borders" and look up what it actually means. So I checked what Nepalese media was writing about this (at least what I could find in english). There wasn't much information beyond that Nepal and China had a disagreement over the exact location of the border. But I noticed a lot of talk about "pillar number 12" and finally found an article with more concrete information and pictures that illustrated just how seriuos this issue is.





Still, I bet the Nepalese government is upset!



Call me a Tankie but I'm going to remain unconvinced that China will annex Europe by 2055.

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

crepeface posted:

can't believe this skit aired on our national broadcasting station a few years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTCqXlDjx18

Can't believe David Schwimmer got a background role on an Australian work sitcom before the Friends reunion

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The PLA will march step by step, pillar by pillar, ALL THE WAY TO VIENNA!!!

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1399813030066724865?s=21

Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 01:26 on Jun 3, 2021

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
So the most recent China in Africa podcast has an interview on a Chinese guy who does tracking on Chinese vaccine. <- This tracking page is really good. I wish Covax has something similar.

I will post the interesting bits I heard from this podcast

* China has sold 700+ million doses covid vaccines and has delivered 250+ million doses. Price ranging from $10-$40, which is higher than the Covax price.
* 22 mil doses delivered are donations (9%)
* out of the sold vaccines 2/3 are Sinovac, 1/4 are Sinopharm, the rest CanSino
* out of the donations more than 80% are Sinopharm (probably because it got approved by WHO 1 month sooner than Sinovax and Sinopharm is more of a SOE?)

China has promised 10 mil donation to Covax but has not delivered them yet. This tells me Covax is a western-led program and China is doing minimum expected. Covax has so far delivered 72 mil doses, and has pretty much stopped, because most of the vaccines were Indian made AZ vaccines but India has stopped vaccine export and is scrambling her own mega third wave. China has been able to scaled up vaccine production. I don't have the number handy but China probably has produced twice as many Covid vaccine as India.

The Covax program is essentially the western countries paying money to India private vaccine pharma to produce vaccines, and distribute to the poor countries and get credit for the good will. And the price is cheap $3-5 dollars per doses when the fancy Pfizer/Moderna vaccine has not delivered any doses to Covax. They have been selling the mRNA vaccines to the developed countries who can afford them. Now, why would the Indian make low ball $5 vaccines for Covax when China has been selling their vaccine for $10-40 per doses? They sure got a sucker deal.

Now that Covax has stopped, and USA still hasn't delivered any vaccine, despite what Biden promised. All the poor countries have to pretty much turn to China directly. If Bangladesh, India's only few friendly neighbor, has to turn to China, that means China is going to be able to use vaccine diplomacy to knock open a lot of doors to countries traditionally align to China's competitors.

The China in Africa podcast has a very pro-Global South stand, it's worth a listen.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

those sound like tankie lies to me as i have been assured by several western publications that the united states has already won the vaccine diplomacy war

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

stephenthinkpad posted:

The Covax program is essentially the western countries paying money to India private vaccine pharma to produce vaccines, and distribute to the poor countries and get credit for the good will. And the price is cheap $3-5 dollars per doses when the fancy Pfizer/Moderna vaccine has not delivered any doses to Covax. They have been selling the mRNA vaccines to the developed countries who can afford them. Now, why would the Indian make low ball $5 vaccines for Covax when China has been selling their vaccine for $10-40 per doses? They sure got a sucker deal.

https://twitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1386355283841200131?s=20

i think covax is primarily eu, who are at least pretending to care about the rest of the world. the us are just fygm (except they can't even bribe their own populace to take the vaccine).



thank u president xi.

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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
why is South Korea exporting 95% of their doses

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

because they love america

thats not a joke thats the actual reason

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

crepeface posted:

https://twitter.com/EmmanuelMacron/status/1386355283841200131?s=20

i think covax is primarily eu, who are at least pretending to care about the rest of the world. the us are just fygm (except they can't even bribe their own populace to take the vaccine).



thank u president xi.

demon cracker nation

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
our (labor) PM at the time:

crepeface posted:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-03/bob-hawke-tiananman-classified-cable/100184916

quote:

"The whole incident occurred because there was this life and death power struggle going on at the highest levels of the Chinese government.

"[The informant] would, of course, be reflecting the views, and the hopes and the fears of one particular group; the group that lost out.

"So there would be a vested interest in conveying as bad a picture as possible, of what the people on the other side of this power struggle were doing and were responsible for."
:magemage:

quote:

Where had the information in the first cable come from?
While the Australian cable Bob Hawke was reading from has never before been made public, a cable sent at the same time to London and Hong Kong from British ambassador Sir Alan Donald was declassified in 2017.

The British cable and Australian cable are strikingly similar.

:magemage: :magemage: :magemage:

quote:

But she said that later, after being presented with new information about the event, he came to a realisation that some of the details were incorrect. Although, he did not voice any regrets.


...can someone who doesn't have terminal epstein brain like i do tell me what was going on. UK backed the other group?

edit: of course they don't explain which details were actually wrong and people are literally are quoting parts of the article itself says were inaccurate

crepeface has issued a correction as of 03:50 on Jun 3, 2021

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

indigi posted:

why is South Korea exporting 95% of their doses

They export (as shown by the graph) half of the AZ vaccine they produce. I think their export went to Japan and Taiwan's first batch. Japan for whatever reason can't even produce vaccine thru partnership or licensing.

Edit, OK nevermind, your joke went over my head.

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

for a somewhat more serious answer the liberals have been getting hammered on the comically high export rate for the vaccine as south korea doesnt appear to be getting any tangible benefit for making all these vaccines and no one even knows theyre doing it so theyre not getting a propaganda benefit either

the biden summit was intended to mollify these concerns but it hasnt actually helped at all because as i have noted here the summit agreements were a mix of poo poo no one cared about and nonbinding promises on bidens part that no non idiot could possibly be expecting him to actually follow through on

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