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happyhippy posted:Exactly, have often been the one not taking part as couldn't afford it. Seems a bit of an excessive response! If someone is obviously taking the piss just exclude them from the rounds in future. My pals never really did rounds when I was younger and even going into uni most people just got whatever they wanted themselves. A few of the guys I've made friends with since then have done it, but only usually when they're in smallish groups. If you're only with one or maybe two other people and you're drinking near enough the same thing and at the same pace it's fine but any more than that and it just gets overly complicated and silly. It's not much of an issue for me because I am quite a big drinker, but I can also see how it would be kind uncomfortable for people who aren't, if they're implicitly expected to keep up. I have a couple of friends who are ridiculous boozers - they can easily put away 3+ bottles of wine each over a night of drinking, then usually have spirits too - and they don't do rounds as such, but they always just offer to top you up/buy you another drink when they get one (they're pretty well off and generous with it, really sound people). I'm somethings sitting there thinking christ, steady on, this is all a bit too enthusiastic for me. It's not a big deal to say no and skip one, but I can imagine it might be awkward if I didn't know them so well and felt obligated or whatever. But yeah, the long and short of it is do it if you want, don't if you don't, it's meant as a bonding activity and if you get weird about it you ruin things way worse than just politely declining. Mind, if I was doing rounds and everyone ordered a normal drink but one rear end in a top hat asked for some top shelf whisky or whatever I would laugh in their face and tell them to get it themselves, I genuinely don't know how anyone would just buy it then get all pissy about it later. If you do it's kind of on you. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Jun 3, 2021 |
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god fubpees are so loving dumb St Davids bishop apologises for 'never trust a Tory' tweet
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Jun 3, 2021 15:39
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Sad Panda posted:I'm a secondary computing teacher so not a primary expert but the general answer is because there's a mountain of everything else to do. https://home.oxfordowl.co.uk/at-school/ looks at it. https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/national-curriculum is the official documents about what the national curriculum covers. KS1+2 are primary. In my experience being a lead in a subject is a promotion so "oh you've taught this for a couple of years and our old one left". They're by no means an expert. A lot of teachers aren't even experts in teaching (because let's face it, 3 years is not enough time at all. Nobody is an expert on their undergrad subject), let alone their subject.
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Jun 3, 2021 15:47
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Miftan posted:In my experience being a lead in a subject is a promotion so "oh you've taught this for a couple of years and our old one left". They're by no means an expert. A lot of teachers aren't even experts in teaching (because let's face it, 3 years is not enough time at all. Nobody is an expert on their undergrad subject), let alone their subject. Very fair comment. My degree in Computing is more than a decade old and I remember pretty much none of it. My 'expertise' in the subject is a lot more down to my interest & self-study in recent years focused on the exam specification for GCSE & A-Level, but there are still bits that baffle me - the difference between all the methodologies for one! Thankfully they mainly need to know a few bullet points as opposed to an actual understanding of intricate differences between the Agile/RAD/Waterfall/Spiral methodologies.
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Jun 3, 2021 16:07
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MeinPanzer posted:Rounds are to the UK what tipping is to the US, an annoyance of going out that's not strictly compulsory but that in practice you have to conform to. The scales have fallen from my eyes. Oh to see ourselves as others see us! edit: That might sound sarcastic but it's genuine and I'm glad to have it put in perspective like that.
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Jun 3, 2021 16:14
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I’m glad that my group of friends isn’t big into doing rounds. I think that’s mainly a function of us going to quieter pubs (pre-covid) where there’s not an issue queuing for only buying 1-2 drinks. We tend to do “rounds” for crisps/snacks though. Post-covid, all the places I’ve been to have table service and wireless card machines, and they are happy to split the bill even when multiple people are ordering at once. The new POS systems seem to make that much easier.
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Jun 3, 2021 16:19
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Places that make you order via app post-Covid have done wonders for the group pub experience. More often than not people will just order a drink as and when they want one since it takes seconds to do. It's probably very bad for pub staff though since Tim Martin was doing it years ago.
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Jun 3, 2021 16:22
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Testro posted:I was sent this earlier about wider sharing of GP data from England; I wondered what the thread made of it? Jesus christ have I not already opted out of care.data and its ilk three times in the past decade. Stop it already.
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Jun 3, 2021 16:24
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Rounds make sense when it's three deep at the bar and everyone going up for their one drink would make it much worse. Other than that do it or don't do it but don't be a dick I guess v  v
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Jun 3, 2021 16:24
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stev posted:Places that make you order via app post-Covid have done wonders for the group pub experience. More often than not people will just order a drink as and when they want one since it takes seconds to do. otoh a lot of the apps places have rushed out to do this are unwieldy as hell. It took me about 30min fiddling with one of them to order because it did not want to accept my address details (you'd think 'living in a flat rather than a house' wouldn't be an issue, but eh), and of course you needed to make an account to order, there was barely any 4g signal, the pub's wifi was shite, and even after making an account it wouldn't save any card details. I just ordered everyone's drink because gently caress going through that every time anyone wants a beer. If anything we do rounds more now. Spoons is hot garbage but their app is at least efficient. I am not a techie so maybe it is really complicated but seriously how hard is it to just link your app up to google pay.
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Jun 3, 2021 16:38
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Meanwhile in real life: WinHTTrack Website Copier is free and will download a full site for you, but it will convert dynamic pages to flat html files so you can browse locally, if you need the original files that are on the web (for evidences sake that a bad job was made) you'll need access to download the originals via FTP.
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Jun 3, 2021 17:03
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That's a very 90s Shareware name.
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Jun 3, 2021 17:09
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I remember using it ~2005 to scrape forum threads I thought were going to get deleted on long-since-disbanded forums.
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Jun 3, 2021 17:36
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These days, they're all called downloadr these days.
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Jun 3, 2021 17:40
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Did you guys figure out how to minmax the vax yet? I thought somewhere on the forums I saw someone saying the policy on 2nd vax timing was changed, so should I be cancelling the appointment I have and rebooking to get an earlier one?
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Jun 3, 2021 18:19
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The problem is you need to cancel before seeing any new dates. Best bet is probably to find someone who hasn’t booked yet and see what their options are.
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Jun 3, 2021 18:24
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Covid data site updating very late today.
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Jun 3, 2021 18:25
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Crankit posted:Did you guys figure out how to minmax the vax yet? I thought somewhere on the forums I saw someone saying the policy on 2nd vax timing was changed, so should I be cancelling the appointment I have and rebooking to get an earlier one? Depends. There's evidence that the AZ vaccine gives the best effect with a second dose at 11-12 weeks, while the Pfizer doesn't seem to change much at all with the timing of the second dose. Bear in mind in all cases that it takes around 2 weeks for the immunity to fully kick in. So if you've had Pfizer first dose, and you're more than two weeks out from your second, I'd go ahead and cancel and rebook (2 weeks is the very longest wait I've ever head of for a Pfizer dose but you might have to hunt around for a really short notice one - it's annoying as hell that the website makes you pick a site then a date rather than giving you a choice of sites on a given date). If you're less than two weeks out from Pfizer second dose and very confident that you would be able to get a quicker appointment (local FB groups are handy for that sort of info) and really want maximum immunity on the shortest timeline, again, go ahead and do it. If you're on AZ I'd go ahead and just wait for the pre-booked second dose *unless* you're in a hotspot or at particular risk (i.e. the equation is, if your second jab is four weeks away, would you rather have 70% immunity in two weeks, or four weeks of 50% immunity but 85% immunity in six weeks - the actual numbers are different, this is just for illustration). As always, big disclaimer that I'm not a doctor, virologist, or even particularly smart, and you probably shouldn't be getting medical advice from someone with a name like goddamnedtwisto on a website most famous for Slenderman.
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Jun 3, 2021 18:34
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Shyrka posted:The scales have fallen from my eyes. Oh to see ourselves as others see us! It's pretty much the worst kind of false perspective, though? If you don't buy drinks in rounds the server still gets to pay their rent.
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Jun 3, 2021 18:39
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Welp: https://twitter.com/LawrenceGilder/status/1400511287059157001 7-day average really isn't looking good at this point, we're back on an exponential curve upwards right now.
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Jun 3, 2021 19:04
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Loonytoad Quack posted:Welp: poo poo like this really makes me feel like this isn't going to end, even if that's obviously not the case.
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Jun 3, 2021 19:33
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I posted on FB that I've had the Bill Gates and a friend said 'why bother, the govt says the vaccination won't protect you'. (a) I've not heard that, (b) I don't listen to the govt, if what I do coincides with their requests so be it, (c) as I replied, nothing is 100% protection (which seems to be the argument I've seen quite a few anti-vaxxers using - if it isn't 100% then it's all a lie. (This friend is not an anti-vaxxer but she occasionally has strange opinions.) Queue at Cwmbran stadium this afternoon was humungous. Like the fungus among us. Took 45 mins from arrival to getting jabbed.
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Jun 3, 2021 19:34
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Living isn't 100% protection from dying so why bother?
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Jun 3, 2021 19:38
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stev posted:poo poo like this really makes me feel like this isn't going to end, even if that's obviously not the case. Official government models say we're going to have a third wave kicking off after the restrictions are ended and peaking in August and that was without Delta so it's not going to be over this year. 2022 - well we'll have to see.
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Jun 3, 2021 19:49
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Guavanaut posted:They're for rearranging in order to find possible solutions. A few pages late, but may I suggest: UKMT Summer 2021: the real world is a mucky place that contains lib dems and ducks
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Jun 3, 2021 19:53
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Alba party now (checks notes)... in favour of the Union https://twitter.com/thetimesscot/status/1400493855678554112
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Jun 3, 2021 20:29
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keep punching joe posted:Alba party now (checks notes)... in favour of the Union Fantastic.
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Jun 3, 2021 20:41
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stev posted:poo poo like this really makes me feel like this isn't going to end, even if that's obviously not the case. Cases rising is Not Good but there's no reason to imagine we'll get to the same position we were in over last winter because the people driving infections are way less likely to get very ill or die than they were back then, and overwhelming the nhs was always as much the issue as direct virus casualties.
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Jun 3, 2021 20:49
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forkboy84 posted:Fantastic. It worked so well with Ireland.
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Jun 3, 2021 20:56
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I'm curious how things will look once the 90ish% of the population who want the vaccine are fully dosed, will it wither away from herd immunity or will it be obnoxiously infectious to the point it can still tag enough of the unvaccinated and breakthrough cases?
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Jun 3, 2021 20:57
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I'm still not sure 'It's fine if people get infected as long as the hospitals can cope with the number of people getting sick' is that reassuring an argument.
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Jun 3, 2021 20:58
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feedmegin posted:It worked so well with Ireland. If Britain had decided to go a step further than Home Rule, and said "English speaking Common Law Protestants and Civil Law Catholics who don't want to be forced to speak English living together? How could that possibly work? Oh how about that thing that we literally did 20 years ago in Canada? Let's try that." Then that would have done more than satisfied everyone except the most radical voices at the time. It might probably have fallen apart a while later with the strains of the Second World War, but with less bloodshed than how it actually went. Westminster is singularly terrified of federalism though, despite forcing it on most of the federal countries of the world one way or another. (The others are mostly former viceroyalties of Spain, who have similar problems with the idea.)
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Jun 3, 2021 21:04
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How is he so good at this https://twitter.com/orwell_fan/status/1400540522767433729?s=21
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Jun 3, 2021 21:06
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Bobby Deluxe posted:'It's My slightly amended version of your quote has always been the underlying strategy of the restrictions. A rise in cases was expected when restrictions were lifted; it's also expected that the success of the vaccination programme means that they won't translate into a corresponding rise in hospitalisations and deaths. We'll have a much better idea in a couple of weeks if that's the case.
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Jun 3, 2021 21:17
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multijoe posted:I'm curious how things will look once the 90ish% of the population who want the vaccine are fully dosed, will it wither away from herd immunity or will it be obnoxiously infectious to the point it can still tag enough of the unvaccinated and breakthrough cases? Think of vaccination as very, very effective social distancing. When vaccinated you are as likely to catch it from an infected person a foot away as you were to catch it from someone 30 feet away (made up number but you get the idea). That's what herd immunity is - the probability that one infected person can infect another person drops so low that eventually it becomes a rounding error. Like TB it'll no doubt continue to lurk in the very poorest communities and wreak havoc periodically; the big unknown is still a) if there is a viable mutation of it that is still infectious *and* dangerous that can evade the vaccines enough to counteract that* and b) how long it'll take for that mutation to emerge and how quickly we'll recognise and move against it. * It's looking cautiously hopeful on this front, because both the mRNA and AZ vaccines target specific bits of the spike that are believed to be essential for the virus to actually infect a cell, which is the big advantage of these types of vaccines over traditional vaccines** - in other words in order to evade the vaccines the virus will have to mutate to such a point that it's considerably less infectious and/or dangerous, but at this point that's not proven. ** Think of it this way. A traditional vaccine, using a deactivated or attentuated pathogen, trains your system to attack the entire virus but mRNA and modified-virus vaccines - through different pathways - train your body to attack very specific, small parts of the virus. Now at first glance that seems a much easier type of vaccine to evade - after all surely all it needs to do is change those small bits and it's through. However by *only* targeting those very small bits, if they're carefully chosen, it actually considerably reduces the chance of a dangerous mutation. Let's say you wanted to train your immune system to attack my posts. Now of course you could choose to block only on my username, or maybe my avi/red text - but I can change those at will and my posts remain just as poo poo. You could choose to block this entire wall of text, but all I need to do is change a few words and I'm through. Train your system to attack only dangling participles, unclosed parentheticals, and of course really badly shoehorned-in rule-of-three lists, and the only way I can evade your block is to actually become a good poster.
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Pistol_Pete posted:My slightly amended version of your quote has always been the underlying strategy of the restrictions. A rise in cases was expected when restrictions were lifted; it's also expected that the success of the vaccination programme means that they won't translate into a corresponding rise in hospitalisations and deaths. We'll have a much better idea in a couple of weeks if that's the case. We're getting some calculations of how Delta is under our current conditions and it looks like the variants' R is 1.5: https://twitter.com/alexselby1770/status/1400043619738869768 No it's not going to be like the winter but letting a few thousand people die because the government doesn't want to protect them for a couple more months while vaccination continues still isn't acceptable.
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Jun 3, 2021 21:23
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A delta variant to kill a few thousand people in a month has precedent  Boris is going to be sat on a camo painted wine crate making neeeorrrrwwnn noises. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU_X5QYBSto
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Jun 3, 2021 21:27
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Guavanaut posted:A delta variant to kill a few thousand people in a month has precedent I've said it before and I'll say it again, gently caress a Royal Yacht, we need a passenger-carrying Vulcan to rock up to trade talks in. Buzz it around while they're talking, and casually drop in "Yeah we were doing that poo poo in the 1950s, imagine what we've got now" (while frantically hoping they don't look into it any further, if only to make the noise stop).
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Jun 3, 2021 21:40
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Lotta space on the bottom of one of them to paint flegs on too.
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Computer, please provide a memorable name for Boris Johnson's ideology.
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