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Chris James 2 posted:Bray sucks poo poo mlyp
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MJeff posted:One of like four times that Summer where Roman got absolutely eaten alive on the mic by Cena, Joe, Miz, etc. I always kind of wondered if Roman was afraid of going off-script with Cena there.
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Dango Bango posted:I always kind of wondered if Roman was afraid of going off-script with Cena there. I dunno how much of what was said in the promo was known ahead of time, but I just rewatched it and there's a part where Cena pretty clearly goes off script to make a joke about Kurt Angle and Roman totally loses his place and forgets his next line and Cena just eggs him on and eventually says "Its a promo, kid, you're gonna have to learn to do it eventually." and Roman's face says "mmmmmotherfucker". Of course I guess that could gave all been scripted, I don't doubt Vince would literally script Roman to forget his lines.
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No way that was scripted , like somebody said already, Roman looks like he’s about to cry.
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MJeff posted:I dunno how much of what was said in the promo was known ahead of time, but I just rewatched it and there's a part where Cena pretty clearly goes off script to make a joke about Kurt Angle and Roman totally loses his place and forgets his next line and Cena just eggs him on and eventually says "Its a promo, kid, you're gonna have to learn to do it eventually." and Roman's face says "mmmmmotherfucker". Tough Enough, The Divas Search, and the Original NXT seasons before it became a brand had a lot of "You have no script or idea of what's going to happen" moments, but honestly by the time Roman was through FCW and debuted as part of SHIELD, it was incredibly discouraged to say anything less than the exact verbiage you were given, that had sometimes been re-wrote multiple times before you went live. I remember Tucker's heel turn he was literally carrying a revised script in his hand presumably less than 5 minutes before his promo and then he just vanished and got fired afterwards.
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MJeff posted:I dunno how much of what was said in the promo was known ahead of time, but I just rewatched it and there's a part where Cena pretty clearly goes off script to make a joke about Kurt Angle and Roman totally loses his place and forgets his next line and Cena just eggs him on and eventually says "Its a promo, kid, you're gonna have to learn to do it eventually." and Roman's face says "mmmmmotherfucker". Cena was like the only guy who had free reign so I imagine Roman was told 'hey he's gonna compare you to him, here's how you react' and he just wasn't prepared for Cena to go in two-footed
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Cerebral Bore posted:I agree, but in Kenny's case it's a 70+ episode anime. He has, in fact, become an anime https://tigermask.fandom.com/wiki/Kenny_Omega
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Regarding Bray: Supernatural gimmicks don't work unless you sell the powers as having an actual impact, and monster heels don't work unless they get wins. Or, in other words,Evil Badman posted:WWE had the perfect "next Kane/undertaker" spooksman in Wyatt and then never let him win any feud. It loving honks.
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And when they did let him be a supernatural spookman they went so overboard that there should have been no possible way for him to lose to anyone, except then he just kind of did.
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Jun 3, 2021 20:12
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bray sucks so much that he stole the powers of Undertaker and Kane and then got completely buried by them at the next PPV anyway. he won the world title after going through both cena AND AJ clean, twice, only to lose it in a forgettable match with Orton a month later. He came back as The Fiend, had a steamroller run, only to get smushed by loving Goldberg. And then he lost his return match from being burnt up by Orton out of nowhere, again. I genuinely struggle to think of a guy who has been on the cusp of Getting Fully Over so often only to get completely clowned and bitchmade.
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bray is far from a fantastic wrestler but he had a ton of charisma (when they didn't shove him under a mask) and he had a gimmick people were genuinely into a better company would've leaned into what he could do and covered up for what he couldn't, like (say) keeping him mainly as a manager and putting better wrestlers under him as his muscle. then, all you'd have to do is to not make him look like an utter chump who couldn't back up his words and you'd have someone who could convincingly gently caress up the midcard and take stabs at the upper card by recruiting/enthralling upper-card performers they did none of that, highlighted all his weaknesses, and turned him into a joke a dozen times over. and yet, somehow, they keep putting him on tv as if they've forgotten how much of a joke they've made of him. it's gotta be intentional, at this point
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TNA would have handled the Bray Wyatt gimmick better or at the very least hosed it up in a way that was funnier.
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bartok posted:TNA would have handled the Bray Wyatt gimmick better or at the very least hosed it up in a way that was funnier. Yes, he was called Abyss. Hindsight and fantasy booking ahoy, but I'd have had Bray retire Taker at WM31 and kayfabe gain his powers.
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"Swamp cult preacher" Bray Wyatt was an amazing character, it's only been downhill since then.
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an alternate universe wwe had people realize that bray and roman together had some genuine chemistry as a tag team and pivoted towards being behind them as a pair to cover each other's weaknesses, but that's also an alternate universe that thinks tag teams are worth a poo poo in any way
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Evil Badman posted:Yes, he was called Abyss.
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flatluigi posted:an alternate universe wwe had people realize that bray and roman together had some genuine chemistry as a tag team and pivoted towards being behind them as a pair to cover each other's weaknesses, but that's also an alternate universe that thinks tag teams are worth a poo poo in any way 
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Nick Jr. Face posted:I never followed TNA during its peak but Abyss always struck me as a larger version of Mankind based alone on how he looked. Little of column A and B. He's got Foley tendencies and did some of the "lights out, appears" stuff too. Evil Badman fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jun 3, 2021 |
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Nick Jr. Face posted:I never followed TNA during its peak but Abyss always struck me as a larger version of Mankind based alone on how he looked. I'd have to look it up but I think the Abyss character was supposed to be serious until Hulk Hogan showed up which is longer than Kane's debut and him cutting goofy promos with The Rock and Booker T.
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DLC Inc posted:bray sucks so much that he stole the powers of Undertaker and Kane and then got completely buried by them at the next PPV anyway. he won the world title after going through both cena AND AJ clean, twice, only to lose it in a forgettable match with Orton a month later. He came back as The Fiend, had a steamroller run, only to get smushed by loving Goldberg. And then he lost his return match from being burnt up by Orton out of nowhere, again. I genuinely struggle to think of a guy who has been on the cusp of Getting Fully Over so often only to get completely clowned and bitchmade. it wasnt even the next ppv. they showed up at raw the next week with their powers back and then squashed bray
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DLC Inc posted:bray sucks so much that he stole the powers of Undertaker and Kane and then got completely buried by them at the next PPV anyway. he won the world title after going through both cena AND AJ clean, twice, only to lose it in a forgettable match with Orton a month later. He came back as The Fiend, had a steamroller run, only to get smushed by loving Goldberg. And then he lost his return match from being burnt up by Orton out of nowhere, again. I genuinely struggle to think of a guy who has been on the cusp of Getting Fully Over so often only to get completely clowned and bitchmade. the funny thing is the last guy who really wound up in that position was Cody Dude got over a bit with Legacy only to get sort of shoved down and ultimately fed to Orton, he got saddled with the whole Dashing/Dr. Doom thing and kind of started to get the Dr. Doom thing over so they put him right back in Legacy, started getting over again with the IC title only to get fed to Orton for a second time, got over again with Sandow only for them to decide to run with Sandow instead, got absolutely red hot teaming with Goldust against The Authority only to repeatedly lose to the loving New Age Outlaws, got saddled with Stardust and managed to get a really compelling brother vs brother feud over with the crowd only to get denied their chance at a blowoff. Even people around here got absolutely loving sick of seeing Cody because they'd so wildly successfully defused his hype over and over again. So look for Bray to leave the company in three years and start the ECW revival everyone's waiting for so we can have the big three back together again, basically
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CarlCX posted:got over again with Sandow only for them to decide to run with Sandow instead Sandow won the briefcase but Cody was clearly getting the push from that breakup
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Nick Jr. Face posted:I never followed TNA during its peak but Abyss always struck me as a larger version of Mankind based alone on how he looked. I'm still pretty sure that the gif of Kurt diving on Abyss is actually him diving on Mick Foley.
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Nick Jr. Face posted:I never followed TNA during its peak but Abyss always struck me as a larger version of Mankind based alone on how he looked. Abyss seemed most the what happens when you mix Kane and Mankind and are ashamed at the result.
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Tommy End is about to stream something: https://www.twitch.tv/theatrinidad
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JUNGLE BOY posted:braypoint is banned You can't deny the existence of one of the few good things either of them have done.
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CarlCX posted:the funny thing is the last guy who really wound up in that position was Cody I was at a house show in Columbia, SC five years ago that ended up being Cody's final appearance in WWE and it was the platonic ideal representation of his last few years in the company. I don't remember which of these two things happened first but he lost a match to Apollo Crews and had a segment where he said that no one from SC could beat him that ended with Big Show sneaking up on him and knocking him out with one punch zetamind2000 fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jun 3, 2021 |
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ARMBAR A COP posted:Tommy End is about to stream something: lmoa @ him just taking over his wife's twitter
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Jun 3, 2021 21:07
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Kunabomber posted:lmoa @ him just taking over his wife's twitter Getting a hell of a lot of new subscriptions at least, his last like 4 minutes have just been reading the names of new subscribers
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These stream sessions is him finally telling us the Lore of Aleister Black that WWE has been keeping under wraps
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Lol he's trying to tell a story and he's like you guys keep gifting a bunch of subs, I cant tell the story!
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Tommy End loving owns and he is unshackled
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On the other hand, keeping Cody down was probably the best call.
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Whoever it was earlier who said Tommy End has an 80 page wiki about his character was absolutely right.
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He's still a big mark for the WWE. If he ever goes to AEW put him with The Butcher, The Blade, and The Bunny as Baphomet. I think he'd look great in a tag-team with Andy
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Cerebral Bore posted:And when they did let him be a supernatural spookman they went so overboard that there should have been no possible way for him to lose to anyone, except then he just kind of did. It's always interesting when they do that. You'll have someone like Asuka who goes 2 1/2 years as being undefeated. Once she lost, she racked up losses against the IIconics and Carmella like it was no big deal.
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I really don't care to listen to all this lore. Somebody tell me if he says something interesting.
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Dimebags Brain posted:Vince wants Roman/Cena for SummerSlam but Bray’s still holding Cena hostage in the Black Lodge. Is the Black Lodge otherwise known as Wipeout? Or has he been sent to a reeducation camp a la "A Clockwork Orange" to see how Taiwan is not a country?
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