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cdyoung posted:Game's crashed on me pretty frequently, so I've just taken to saving every five seconds. I usually take every opportunity to save, but there’s no save points in the Labyrinth!
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You can save by going back to the top at the end of each Kalpa, and then go back down the hole to the one you last unlocked. My game crashed (on ps4) when I tried to leave the prison to go to Ginza, and in my foolishness I had told myself I'd save at Ginza, so I had to fight the prison boss again. That learned me lol
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MonsterEnvy posted:I thought YHVH is explicitly stated as not being the Creator of everything despite his title in IVA. But another creation of the Great Will through Human Consciousness. But because human consciousness said he created the universe he and most demons believe he did. But he's not really any different then any other Demon and is fully demonized in order to be killed there. Stephen, who is basically the most reliable source of information on how everything works, does explicitly say YHVH made the universe. https://youtu.be/YYLU_w1L9oE?t=1937 Now, maybe not originally. Krishna, Dagda and the rest's whole thing is they remember a universe before YHVH so he didn't start everything from scratch, he just made the current universe. But that was Dagda's and the Divine Powers' whole thing - this universe was made by Him and His rules so it must be destroyed and started over according to new rules.
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Can someone explain the Death Stone and Daisoujou? Went to fuse some demons and half of them can be Daisoujou.
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Detective No. 27 posted:Can someone explain the Death Stone and Daisoujou? Went to fuse some demons and half of them can be Daisoujou. The Fiends will be made by a Death Stone at certain times of Kagutscuhi. I dunno what times for what Fiend but as a random example, say you are at New Moon. You won't make Daisoujou at Full Moon even with the exact same combinations of demons you are seeing now. So if you don't want him, just run around for a bit to change the cycle. Also if you get Cursed, I think that makes it easier to create Fiends... It makes it easier to make Fouls, Tyrants, etc. because you can't fuse any other types besides those "dark" ones while Cursed. You get awesome music, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG1d34BFU6U NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Jun 2, 2021 |
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It looks like several former Atlus employees who worked on some of the older SMT games are coming together to make a new game, Monark. Few details so far, other than a countdown to the reveal on June 10. https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1400109071588642830?s=19 https://twitter.com/Persona_Central/status/1400109164563738624 https://twitter.com/Persona_Central/status/1400113931524395016 The four people revealed so far haven't been involved with Megaten since the 90's, as far as i know. The most recent game credit listed for any of them was the first Devil Summoner on the Saturn. I am expecting Monark to be a first person dungeon crawler, but who knows.
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Looks like FuRyu is the publisher, which admittedly wasn't even a little surprising when I found out
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I'm willing to give it a chance.
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where is kaneko
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In a flower field drawing pictures of Nobunaga
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Still in the flower field. SmtV's plot is about rescuing him so he can redraw all the lovely art that got stuck in IV
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SMT and Mega Man Battle Network would have made for an amazing crossover.
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Anyone here speak Japanese? What do all the Reason names mean? Shijima Musubi Yosuga
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Kotowari (理*)? is a philosophical term for "reason," "motive," "logic," or "principle." It is also a homophone for "refusal" (断り*)?. Shijima (靜寂*)? is an archaic spelling for "silence" or "stillness." In modern Japanese the phrase is commonly pronunced as "seijaku" or "shoujaku." Yosuga (縁*)? is an archaic spelling for two different definitions: a. "someone to rely on" or "relative;" b. "mean," "way," or "clue." Musubi (結び*)? is a noun and continuative form of the verb "to wrap" or "to tide" (結ぶ, musubu)?. Unlike other Reasons, the term is not archaic in modern Japanese. From the Wiki
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Gaius Marius posted:Kotowari (理*)? is a philosophical term for "reason," "motive," "logic," or "principle." It is also a homophone for "refusal" (断り*)?. Yeah I've seen that Yosuga definition which is why I'm confused. It doesn't make any sense to me which is why I was hoping a native speaker could explain. There's nuance and cultural baggage that is probably lost when you just say a word means a word, especially when none of the translations seem to make sense.
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Yosuga is what you say when you see the guy from BTS on the street
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NikkolasKing posted:Yeah I've seen that Yosuga definition which is why I'm confused. It doesn't make any sense to me which is why I was hoping a native speaker could explain. There's nuance and cultural baggage that is probably lost when you just say a word means a word, especially when none of the translations seem to make sense. "Yosuga" uses the second definition there: "Means" or "Way", as in "I will be the Creator because I have the means/way to do so" Well, either that, or it's like ironically referring to oneself as the person you rely on. maybe it's referring to denim as being a tough and reliable fabric
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NikkolasKing posted:Yeah I've seen that Yosuga definition which is why I'm confused. It doesn't make any sense to me which is why I was hoping a native speaker could explain. There's nuance and cultural baggage that is probably lost when you just say a word means a word, especially when none of the translations seem to make sense. TurnipFritter posted:"Yosuga" uses the second definition there: "Means" or "Way", as in "I will be the Creator because I have the means/way to do so" Here's the Definition from Goo.jp 1 To be the basis of your body and mind. Rely on. Also, close friends. Relatives. According to. "Going to Tokyo with an acquaintance" "Nothing to get close to" 2 clues. Hands up. Method. "Now I don't know the old days anymore" Chiaki Found a method/way to rely on, herself and her pursuit of power. There was a audio Drama or art book or something that described how Chiaki was repulsed by the Hitoshura when she saw him in the club, which is why she didn't come along with him. So in a sense it's ironic, in the Vortex world the only thing she can rely on like a friend or relative is herself and her reason. I don't think your going to get much help from a native speaker, the last usage of the word I could find was from 1681 and the first was from the Man’yoshū, both using alternate Kanji. It's incredibly obscure.
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holy poo poo these missions in DeSu1 where you have to protect AI characters are awful I'm on the Keisuke/Dolly protection mission in Day 2 and Keisuke just ran right into 2 enemies and got himself killed almost immediately.
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RubberLuffy posted:holy poo poo these missions in DeSu1 where you have to protect AI characters are awful yes but in DeSu2 it gets better.
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use your demon skills
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I wanna say it's the wilder family that has devil speed? no way you don't have one of them at that point in the game.
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I'll be honest, I never used the Devil Speed skill. Instead I did Evil Wave (3-range attacks) and Double Attack to turn my MC into an unstoppable killing machine and then my other party members just sort of did whatever
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In DeSu 2 by the end game I made sure that every party had Winged Flight, Chaos Wave, or both. Extra range/movement is too good to pass up, plus flight lets you avoid choke points and stuff.
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In DeSu 1, the avatar racial switch skill is really loving good in escort missions because you can catapult yourself into danger while moving vulnerable npcs away from danger. All NPCs on the battlefield in the 'other' category are valid targets for the avatar racial skill. You can even use this with multiple avatars in multiple parties to create a teleport chain to carry an NPC to a distant exit relatively quickly. As in, give 1 avatar to 2 or 3 party members, and then give them a genma/avian/wilder/beast and get everyone on the edge of each others switch range to convey a hapless npc to the exit rapidly. Every single turn, in addition to move and attack actions, you get an action for a leader to summon a demon and a demon to return itself to stock. This allows you to snap the movement system of the game in two. Lets say you start a turn with a beast and a wilder in your party. You activate devil speed, zip over to an enemy, and then get a second 7-square move. Make the move, then dismiss the beast and summon a dragon or vile. You have just enabled yourself to zip deep behind enemy lines, and retaliate against ranged foes that attack you. A very simple summon/dismiss combo is moving with a genma or avian, then swapping it with a beast or a dragon/vile before attacking. A party of avian and avatar allows you to bypass obstacles, swap with a distant npc, and then dismiss the avian for a beast if there was a enemy right next to an npc, letting you move even more after battle, or swap the avian for a dragon or vile for a ranged attack. Of course, beast/kishin is the most powerful of these, and after the second move given by beast leg, you can swap for a dragon or vile to strike a distant foe with the second battle the kishin gives you. The best part is that you can start out a turn as avian/kishin or genma/beast, or any other combo involving one of the 2, then proceed to dismiss/summon to a beast/kishin before or after you move, which lets you bypass terrain and brutalize multiple foes. Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jun 3, 2021 |
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demon traits skills are fun and when people complain about the npcs, they're just saying that they're not interacting with the game mechanics. also it's pretty cool that some maps actually have dialogue changes if you have/use the appropriate demon skills.
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I dunno, the game definitely scales to the harder side and it can feel not great to have a team that you've built up that is incredibly reliable against 99% of maps but because you don't have one skill (Demon Speed) certain maps are significantly harder. Hell, some maps you just get super unlucky (that one map where Gin fights Azuma) and if the enemy gets a lucky crit the map is over before you even get a turn Yeah, you could always fuse up a new demon, but in my experience money is kind of tight for me to justify fusing a new demon with a racial skill that is only specifically useful a few times in the game as opposed to some of the other ones that are busted in every single map. There's a reason DeSu2 still had AI maps but made the AI not suicidal
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The only experience with grid based SRPGs I have is the Super Robot Wars series and those are really a different beast, and also pretty easy to break. I'm still kinda figuring it all out but some of the tips here I'll try to apply.
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:I'll be honest, I never used the Devil Speed skill. Instead I did Evil Wave (3-range attacks) and Double Attack to turn my MC into an unstoppable killing machine and then my other party members just sort of did whatever
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Commander Keene posted:I never used the range-enhancing skills much because IIRC they made you so slow. Also, they took away your ability to get Extra Turns which hurt your ability to get Magnetite and Macca. I used the movement-enhancing skills (Devil Speed/Flight/Phantasma/Animal Leg) a fair amount though. They're a lot better in DeSu2, since the enhanced version that gives you 6 range is enough that you can often skip moving and just stand in place blowing things up like an artillery unit; not using your move on a turn easily compensates for the turn order penalty.
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SMTV, November 11 release date https://personacentral.com/shin-megami-tensei-v-release-date-details-leak/ quote:The official Japanese website for Shin Megami Tensei V was mistakenly updated with release details for the upcoming game, including its release date of Thursday, November 11, 2021. As the information came from a Japanese website, it is possible that this release date is only for Japan, however the game was previously stated to have a worldwide release, so it would presumably close to other territories. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Jun 4, 2021 |
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Shooting for a worldwide November release is a level of confidence that I'm very happy to see. Sega's recently been talking about wanting to increase Atlus' international profile, and it's looking like they aren't going to be slow or shy about that.
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100% SMT5 in the 1 Week I'll have before early access for FF14's next expac. A horrible challenge but the queen will rise to meet it.
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To be honest I'm a bit annoyed that we're going back to a high school student protagonist, but I guess I can't really be too mad about that. Excited regardless.
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Sounds rad. And also makes even more sense why they re-released 3 so recently lol
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NikkolasKing posted:SMTV, November 11 release date Thanks for posting the full text of this here, since it popped up on my RSS reader but the real site is down now  Good thing if true, I was a bit worried they might not make the planned 2021 release date as we hadn't heard anything in a while.
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blizzardvizard posted:To be honest I'm a bit annoyed that we're going back to a high school student protagonist, but I guess I can't really be too mad about that. Excited regardless. At least it'll take place in a different world so it's not like a Persona style high school hijinks story.
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Can't believe they're pandering to Persona 5 fans by setting SMT in Tokyo now smh...
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Also, all the mainline Shin Megami Tensei protagonists (unless you count Strange Journey) have been 'high-school aged', albeit with Aleph counting weirdly due to being an accelerated clone. The oldest is Flynn, at eighteen. Granted, only the SMT1 protagonist and the Demi-Fiend were actually in high school. And even then, we don't actually see anything about the SMT1 protagonist's school life, it's just assumed he went there.
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I always imagined SMT1 dude as a 19-year old university freshman, don't know why. Edit: Da'at imeans we're getting Kabbalistic huh.
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