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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJPAH4T17qw One of the original trailers for V has Da'at show up in the words.
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MonsieurChoc posted:I always imagined SMT1 dude as a 19-year old university freshman, don't know why. You know I always thought the series was heavy on the Christian imagery but P3: Greek P4: Japanese P5: characters from novels (the fact that this is a “mythology” is a cool segment in itself) Nocturne: Mix of Hinduism, Buddhism, Shinto SMT4 in my mind is the Christian one because you kill god
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Oh great like a week before the FFXIV expansion in the midst of the holiday season when I work retail. Just gently caress me up fam.
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I forgot how much I hated the Amala Temple. I am being brutally reminded.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:You know I always thought the series was heavy on the Christian imagery but I know its not really super different but i think the smt concept of god is meant to pull more from jewish traditions then christian, since they call him YHVH and you literally cant speak his name and all. He is def very much more old testament then new in character
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It didn't hit me until the HD Remaster that Chiaki's entire outfit is made out of denim.  I appreciate that even in demon form, Chiaki's still rocking her jress, jirt and joots.
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mandatory lesbian posted:I know its not really super different but i think the smt concept of god is meant to pull more from jewish traditions then christian, since they call him YHVH and you literally cant speak his name and all. He is def very much more old testament then new in character In Apocalypse he seems to be explicitly Christian since he reads the beatitudes.
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YHVH is pretty influenced by gnostic thought. How explicit it is varies per game, but since the games got very explicit with the introduction of the Axiom, it's hard to see him as anything other than a demiurge.
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Spermando posted:In Apocalypse he seems to be explicitly Christian since he reads the beatitudes. Ah, i wouldnt have caught that as i have no clue what those are
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blizzardvizard posted:To be honest I'm a bit annoyed that we're going back to a high school student protagonist, but I guess I can't really be too mad about that. Excited regardless. The only reason Flynn and Nanashi weren't also high school student protagonists was because the world already ended.
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WHY BONER NOW posted:Are there any meaningful differences between the nocturne ps4/switch/pc releases? PC release is the vanilla OG release, sans Dante or Raidou, or any of the Labyrinth of Amala stuff entirely. DLC to upgrade to the Raidou version of Maniax is free.
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I was kind of hoping more information leaked instead of just the basic premise from the 2020 reveal trailer. Oh well, excited to see some gameplay and new Doi Demons at E3.
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I hope we get HD models of some of the more out there redesigns from IV and Apocalypse like the four archangels.
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AngryRobotsInc posted:PC release is the vanilla OG release, sans Dante or Raidou, or any of the Labyrinth of Amala stuff entirely. DLC to upgrade to the Raidou version of Maniax is free. Oh, thats good to know...I wasn't even thinking about dlc, I was more questioning if there were performance issues or what have you
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Gaius Marius posted:YHVH is pretty influenced by gnostic thought. How explicit it is varies per game, but since the games got very explicit with the introduction of the Axiom, it's hard to see him as anything other than a demiurge. Nocturne is almost entirely pulled from gnosticism, with weird hints of Buddhism thrown in. Kagutsuchi = the Demiurge, reason = Logos, manikins = Hylians, etc. The best bit is that Lucifer and the Lady in Black are pretty explicitly based off of Jesus and Sophia.
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Lucifer and the Lady in Black, at least visually, are inspired by Albert from Suspiria and Mrs Tremond and David Lynch's son from Twin Peaks.
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Spermando posted:Twink Peaks. Obviously I missed some real prestige tv at some point
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Whoops, that one has Mr Tremmond.
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Assembly of Nihilo has some cool rear end music wow Am I about halfway through? I’m still only about level 26 and I know you get to the 80s by endgame right? I also haven’t done any of the Kalpa Amala stuff should I be doing those already
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Assembly of Nihilo has some cool rear end music wow I was Level 87 at the end of my Chronicles run, Level 76 when I finished my last run. 76 is more than high enough to beat the game. 76 was without any Labyrinth of Amal. You can do that whenever you want - if you wait till later, you can just breeze through the Kalpas without having to worry about dying. You have a lot of main game left after Nihilo.
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Less than a third I'd say, if you haven't done any of the Kalpa's
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Got it! Thanks I did see you can do the Kalpa 1 pretty much now which at least breaks it up a bit maybe? Or do people recommend doing it all at once
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It doesn't really matter, but I think you'll burn yourself out if you do it all at once.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Got it! Thanks The game more or less expects you to do it as it unlocks, since fiends are mostly at areas around where you should be at the time.
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Do the maps get any better in Nocturne? Just at the hospital still but everything is a bland grey maze and looks the same and keep getting lost.
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Edit: thought you meant the actual maps Boxy maze-like interiors are a staple of the series. There's some really creative ones later on, but don't expect anything wild.
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It’s built like a first person dungeon crawler but in third person. It’s all kinda boxy
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Barreft posted:Do the maps get any better in Nocturne? Just at the hospital still but everything is a bland grey maze and looks the same and keep getting lost. Nocturne has two or three good dungeons(the Prison, Obelisk and Amala Temple) and a lot of lovely ones. The hospital had awesome music, at least. Love that song.
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I think what Nocturne lacks in visual variety in its dungeons (it's mostly all abandoned buildings or weird cube architecture) it makes up for in dungeon gimmicks. Kabukicho Prison is a great example of that.
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Yeah I think that's true, Nocturne at leasts keeps them interesting. IV and IVa had a lot of real nothing dungeons, DDS hit a good midpoint between frustrating and unique. P3 and 4 had terrible dungeons
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Strange Journey has my favorite dungeons but they may be a bit too cruel for most
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I think literally the second dungeon in Nocturne is pretty vibrant, compared to the rest. The Network or w/e. But yeah it's the Amala Temple and Nihilo that stand out to me most.
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I hate P5's dungeons with a passion. Anyway, trip report on DeSu1, I tried to fiddle with the map on the Keisuke mission, used Devil Speed and Switch to try to remove Keisuke from the 4 enemies he spawns near and put him up with the cosplay girl, it was going ok except he got his 2 demons killed before I could get to him, then he wandered back into the fray and got one shot, so that was great.
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Rockstar Massacre posted:I think literally the second dungeon in Nocturne is pretty vibrant, compared to the rest. The Network or w/e. That one was honestly pretty uncharacteristically cruel compared to most Nocturne, on one had they give you plenty of free healing. On the other hand Locking you in a dungeon with no Fusion Mansion is really mean. Especially that early on. hatty posted:Strange Journey has my favorite dungeons but they may be a bit too cruel for most They're very good, I think of the 3D games and the 2D games differently though.
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NikkolasKing posted:Nocturne has two or three good dungeons(the Prison, Obelisk and Amala Temple) and a lot of lovely ones. The sheer disdain for the Diet building
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I'm playing SMT4 and the game is really great but the Tokyo theme is some next level poo poo, I'm obsessed with it I doubt anyone forgot what it sounds like The only thing I don't like is all the covers/remixes I'm finding on YouTube slow it down which seems.... Bad loopsheloop fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Jun 4, 2021 |
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There's another grungy overworld theme later on that I love. The IV Apocalypse arrangement of the Tokyo theme is cool too.
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hatty posted:Strange Journey has my favorite dungeons but they may be a bit too cruel for most Wow, its an honor to meet you, the one person who loves eridanus
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I liked Eridanus.
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