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Jun 5, 2021 23:02
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https://abcnews.go.com/International/ufo-china-closes-airport-prompts-investigation/story?id=11159531 This was a pretty wild incident imo
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Jun 5, 2021 23:04
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:https://abcnews.go.com/International/ufo-china-closes-airport-prompts-investigation/story?id=11159531 This was a pretty wild incident imo I can't get the video to load, but it looks like there's only still images? Meh. Otoh, quote:Occurred : 7/10/2010 23:00 (Entered as : 07/10/10 23:00) They were important to at least one person, friend!
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Jun 5, 2021 23:13
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Another thing that's kinda blowing my mind as I reflect is that they wheeled out Obama on talk shows to start seeding this stuff. People are still laughing it off but I think we are inching towards denialism bit by bit and then acceptance. How long until we get a primetime presidential address? Is the heavy fox push to get rightwingers on board? You don't get much more coverage than Obama for the libs and Tucker for the right and they both have done multiple cracks at it Is it just a sea of grifters who can smell blood in the water and want to get a bite while they have a chance?
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Jun 5, 2021 23:39
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WEH posted:I can't get the video to load, but it looks like there's only still images? Meh. neither are tic tacs? sounds like we’ve got 2 more alien civilizations here!
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Jun 5, 2021 23:47
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yes it's a well known fact that advanced alien civilizations can only produce a single functional probe design
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Jun 5, 2021 23:49
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The Protagonist posted:yes it's a well known fact that advanced alien civilizations can only produce a single functional probe design Which is why all of our aircraft, regardless of purpose, look identical
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Jun 5, 2021 23:50
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real talk for a moment. they absolutely have high resolution imagery of these objects and I demand they be released immediately because im pretty bored right now
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Jun 5, 2021 23:54
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Google Butt posted:real talk for a moment. they absolutely have high resolution imagery of these objects and I demand they be released immediately because im pretty bored right now Seconding this. The MIB super secrecy is really played out too. Let us see the weird poo poo
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Jun 5, 2021 23:55
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Another thing that's kinda blowing my mind as I reflect is that they wheeled out Obama on talk shows to start seeding this stuff. The more (epistemically) conservative answer is that for some reason the hegemonic state is now on the same page as every other major government in the world, which is relatively agnostic and accommodating. This is one of the very few things that the American government has actually changed its mind and perhaps policy about in the last 70 years. It’s the only sort of “change of mind” that has happened which can accurately be described as bipartisan.
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Jun 5, 2021 23:58
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They won't show us because an inordinate number of the hieroglyphs on the craft are just variations of dickbutt
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Jun 5, 2021 23:58
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The Protagonist posted:They won't show us because an inordinate number of the hieroglyphs on the craft are just variations of dickbutt lol
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Jun 6, 2021 00:01
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Which is why all of our aircraft, regardless of purpose, look identical so what's the thought here - this alien civilization which understands physics to a far more extreme degree than us decided to make some of the crafts less efficiently shaped? or is the hypothesis that the glowing ones with comets are used for abduction, the squares are used to demonstrate vertical lift at hypersonic speeds while not actually interacting with our environment thus leaving nothing behind, and the tic tacs are used to pop onto fighter jet radar for 5 minutes?
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Jun 6, 2021 00:04
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Hodgepodge posted:three body problem is an interesting series but it really has to stretch things thin to even give its space fascists an excuse to invade so we can be space fascists too. even if they were loving with our particle reactor results it would be to keep us contained until we get our act together. you're stretching our physics limitations way more than they are - as far as i can tell you're relating the missing link between general relativity & newtonian physics as proof that all of our physics is based on the assumption of no gravity..?? (even though we have planes and have launched ships to other planets). even if we had the missing link it wouldn't matter in this context. if these aliens are real it would have to mean this world is a manufactured fake and the physics outside of it have no bearing on the fake environment that we were incubated in
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Jun 6, 2021 00:09
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Vomik posted:so what's the thought here - this alien civilization which understands physics to a far more extreme degree than us decided to make some of the crafts less efficiently shaped? or is the hypothesis that the glowing ones with comets are used for abduction, the squares are used to demonstrate vertical lift at hypersonic speeds while not actually interacting with our environment thus leaving nothing behind, and the tic tacs are used to pop onto fighter jet radar for 5 minutes? You can take very good pictures with a cellphone these days but a dedicated camera will always take better ones because of the bigass lenses. Or - sure you can cut down a tree with a multi tool but an axe is probably preferable. Or maybe the different types Voltron together into a giant mother ship for long distance travel and fighting space kaiju Or maybe it's like space classic car culture But more likely it's a smattering of unknown natural phenomena and physical craft and we aren't sure which is which
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Jun 6, 2021 00:13
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getting a camper trailer, putting a skyhub cam on it, and starting a new life as a uap hunter. wish me luck goons. first stop is area 51 gift shop to find a bobblehead alien to put on the dash
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Jun 6, 2021 00:16
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:You can take very good pictures with a cellphone these days but a dedicated camera will always take better ones because of the bigass lenses. Or - sure you can cut down a tree with a multi tool but an axe is probably preferable. if aliens are real and come here and they don't pull an independence day and destroy the white house then i don't even want to talk to those dumbass liberals imo
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Jun 6, 2021 00:21
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Vomik posted:if aliens are real and come here and they don't pull an independence day and destroy the white house then i don't even want to talk to those dumbass liberals imo If they've been here and in contact with our leadership we can guarantee they are space liberals for believing those fuckers have our interests at heart instead of storming down and unleashing glorious space communism upon us right then and there Instead we've got to pull ourselves up by our own space bootstraps I guess
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Jun 6, 2021 00:24
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Another thing that's kinda blowing my mind as I reflect is that they wheeled out Obama on talk shows to start seeding this stuff. It's important to look at what is happening through the lens of narrative. Right now, we're seeing an overall reset of the narrative away from the extraterrestrial hypothesis. That narrative had been building since the 60s at least and by the 90s, it had metastisized into complex alien exopolitical structures and alliances, with proponents asserting with absolute surety that any day now, either a flying saucer is gonna land on the White House lawn and we'll have first contact with the benevolent space brothers or we'll all be rounded up by the evil aliens and taking off to camps for nefarious purposes. Pretty much every surviving member of that old guard had some exceptionally detailed ideas about what was behind all of it, though a few at least avoided really being pinned down publicly. While it didn't really go away, I think 9/11 and the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan really took a lot of the air out of the anti-government UFO movement as it became really easy to just say "secret tech" and handwave away anyone questioning the government narrative as unpatriotic. A growing understanding of the government as nefarious probably helped the skeptical argument, actually, since it's easy to just say that of course it's secret tech, the government lies all the time, so of course they're lying about this. The narrative reset that's been happening for a while has been driven by a new generation of researchers who simultaneously reject that the phenomenon is nothing but also reject all the cruft that's been built around it by the old guard of Ufologists who all went very deep down the rabbit holes of their own personal theories. The videos TTSA released represent something of a watershed moment. On one hand, they don't show anything that wasn't already in copious amounts of witness reports, but on the other, they were basically able to take the line that same Ufologists have been taking for a while now, which is "this is what's happening, we don't know what it is, but it's doing something we literally cannot do ourselves and which we've never seen any other country do either". That reset in narrative basically flips the script on the skeptical side by giving them a video which is as guaranteed genuine as you can get and military experts saying that we don't have anything that can do that and we don't think other countries do either, and saying "explain that" when there are no good explanations.
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Jun 6, 2021 00:24
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multiple different alien species. Earth is part of a five parsec demilitarized zone between Four feuding alien empires, and the UAP’s are just checking in to see if the other empire broke the agreement This is the basic history of the Spiral Arm, how do you not know this?
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Jun 6, 2021 00:25
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Bullfrog posted:getting a camper trailer, putting a skyhub cam on it, and starting a new life as a uap hunter. wish me luck goons. first stop is area 51 gift shop to find a bobblehead alien to put on the dash Don't forget to get a MADAR! What's it actually do? No clue and the store page is down  Also lol in searching for MADAR it turns out nicap has a public facing directory on the subject for some reason so now im digging through that
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Jun 6, 2021 00:28
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Bullfrog posted:getting a camper trailer, putting a skyhub cam on it, and starting a new life as a uap hunter. wish me luck goons. first stop is area 51 gift shop to find a bobblehead alien to put on the dash why waste time finding a bobblehead alien when u can just look in the mirror
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Jun 6, 2021 00:29
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The Protagonist posted:yes it's a well known fact that advanced alien civilizations can only produce a single functional probe design We’re actually being visited by a gaggle of interstellar traveling salesmen that rushed here as soon as word of a military-industrial complex worth pitching reached them. They are all demonstrating their own models of probecraft, but severe differences in communicative style are preventing their patter from being understood.
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Jun 6, 2021 00:29
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Xenophanes posted:We’re actually being visited by a gaggle of interstellar traveling salesmen that rushed here as soon as word of a military-industrial complex worth pitching reached them. They are all demonstrating their own models of probecraft, but severe differences in communicative style are preventing their patter from being understood. gotta take a page from america's playbook and just drop one of their space nukes on us to demonstrate their might that'll bring a lot to the negotiating table
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Jun 6, 2021 00:34
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Xenophanes posted:We’re actually being visited by a gaggle of interstellar traveling salesmen that rushed here as soon as word of a military-industrial complex worth pitching reached them. They are all demonstrating their own models of probecraft, but severe differences in communicative style are preventing their patter from being understood. Even worse, the only thing of value we can offer these celestial salesman are human bodies for their own twisted machinations and the nectar sweet flesh of honeybell oranges (but those are only available for brief periods towards the end of march so...)
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Jun 6, 2021 00:34
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gently caress - can you imagine if the aliens have to talk to joe biden instead of donald "the art of the deal" trump? we're gonna get snake oil
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Jun 6, 2021 00:35
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aliens are coming to earth because they only have mids to smoke
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Jun 6, 2021 00:35
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Vomik posted:gently caress - can you imagine if the aliens have to talk to joe biden instead of donald "the art of the deal" trump? we're gonna get snake oil That after they spent years working with the Clintons for the big galactic welcoming ceremony in 2016 It's disappointment after disappointment for them The only reason Trump formed space force is because they slighted him by refusing to do the reveal with him
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Jun 6, 2021 00:37
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The thing is, the videos aren't going away. I personally feel they aren't going to be debunked as some black site drone or software glitch. And if this is the case, eventually more hi def records will be leaked, eventually old ufo reports will be combed through and found to be pretty correlated with the 120 sightings we've had recently, eventually all of this will seep into mainstream culture more. It just feels like the currently released recent uap info is kind of an immovable object. imo aliens aren't any more plausible than ghosts or angels or gods, all of which are firmly in the speculation without evidence category. But something has to give.
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Jun 6, 2021 00:42
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Well... We have pretty good evidence of Life having evolved at least once. And it would be really weird if it never happened anywhere else. And it would be really weird if life was teeming out there in the universe for there to not be all sorts of evidence of it zipping around and oh hey Yeah there's no fermi paradox.
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Jun 6, 2021 00:48
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The Protagonist posted:Well... We have pretty good evidence of Life having evolved at least once. And it would be really weird if it never happened anywhere else. And it would be really weird if life was teeming out there in the universe for there to not be all sorts of evidence of it zipping around and oh hey And you have to assume most of those species don't accidentally create capitalism and kneecap their intellectual development for hundreds of years
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Jun 6, 2021 00:50
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:That after they spent years working with the Clintons for the big galactic welcoming ceremony in 2016 god drat. now you've got me considering - what if they aren't actually aliens they're the future democratic party sending their final operatives back in time because the demographics destiny didn't pan out and the party is nearly dead. their only hope was to get hillary clinton elected to change the future. now they may just pull a classic democrat move of just killing everyone. this is why they aren't beholden to the laws of physics - they aren't moving through space, they're moving through time... they are time machines not spacecrafts
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Jun 6, 2021 00:51
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Google Butt posted:why waste time finding a bobblehead alien when u can just look in the mirror He needs it for the intro scene of the alien movie where we start with an establishing shot of the bobblehead bouncing as they drive an old car down a dusty desert road, right before they cut to the government agencies "detecting something" and they finally have to admit the crazy goon was right all along and they become the crazy person in the back that's dressed like a bum but is "surprisingly" able to answer their complex questions about the aliens with confidence.
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Jun 6, 2021 00:52
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Vomik posted:god drat. now you've got me considering - what if they aren't actually aliens they're the future democratic party sending their final operatives back in time because the demographics destiny didn't pan out and the party is nearly dead. their only hope was to get hillary clinton elected to change the future. now they may just pull a classic democrat move of just killing everyone. hey ive seen Travelers too
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Jun 6, 2021 00:53
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:And you have to assume most of those species don't accidentally create capitalism and kneecap their intellectual development for hundreds of years Only one needs to make it to spread out throughout space in a few million years. What's the accepted time horizon for how long terrestrial earth-like worlds might have been evolving life? 10 billion years, 15 billion years? Most civilizations almost certainly die out just like most species do
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Jun 6, 2021 00:54
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the aliens are gangstalking and gaslighting the deep state
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Jun 6, 2021 00:56
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UnknownTarget posted:He needs it for the intro scene of the alien movie where we start with an establishing shot of the bobblehead bouncing as they drive an old car down a dusty desert road, right before they cut to the government agencies "detecting something" and they finally have to admit the crazy goon was right all along and they become the crazy person in the back that's dressed like a bum but is "surprisingly" able to answer their complex questions about the aliens with confidence. Honor to be posting with you Mr. Emmerich The Protagonist posted:Only one needs to make it to spread out throughout space in a few million years. What's the accepted time horizon for how long terrestrial earth-like worlds might have been evolving life? 10 billion years, 15 billion years? True, and given that you only need 1 positive result and you have essentially infinite rolls of the dice I don't see how the math works out in favor of "no aliens" I suppose since the universe is infinitely big though that one grand prize spacefarer civilization could be all the way on the other end or whatever but who the gently caress knows really
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Jun 6, 2021 00:59
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Google Butt posted:hey ive seen Travelers too i looked this up cause i was curious if there was a show actually based on democrats time traveling bc i'd have to watch it but this show is just the fbi time tra---- ohhhhhhh
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Jun 6, 2021 00:59
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the cia launching coups in South America is doing self-care, they cope with the unfamiliar by returning to old habits.
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Jun 6, 2021 01:00
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Bullfrog posted:getting a camper trailer, putting a skyhub cam on it, and starting a new life as a uap hunter. wish me luck goons. first stop is area 51 gift shop to find a bobblehead alien to put on the dash dude it will be like the movie twister
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