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PawParole posted:the aliens are gangstalking and gaslighting the deep state sounds like the deep state needs therapy
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Jun 6, 2021 01:03
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Delta-Wye posted:sounds like the deep state needs therapy they’ll just do what every untreated mentally unstable person in this country does and commit a mass shooting or two.
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Jun 6, 2021 01:05
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Honor to be posting with you Mr. Emmerich i think wanting aliens to be here is pretty similar to religious belief - the idea that there's something way beyond where we are and will be explain what it all means and why its all here. to me if there are aliens out there, it's more likely and more depressing that they're probably trapped by the same laws and limitations and end up dying off hoping that someone will come to their world and explain it to them
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Jun 6, 2021 01:08
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PawParole posted:they’ll just do what every untreated mentally unstable person in this country does and commit a mass shooting or two. so just normal deep state stuff??
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Jun 6, 2021 01:08
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Vomik posted:i think wanting aliens to be here is pretty similar to religious belief - the idea that there's something way beyond where we are and will be explain what it all means and why its all here. to me if there are aliens out there, it's more likely and more depressing that they're probably trapped by the same laws and limitations and end up dying off hoping that someone will come to their world and explain it to them I know what you mean but this just makes me imagine little near-immortal fellas trapped in the autonomous routines of their saucers and tictac ships desperately bored and waiting for us to figure out how to rescue them and tell them the purpose of their observation
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Jun 6, 2021 01:10
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tractor beams do the same thing as getting sucked off thats why your dick goes up first
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Jun 6, 2021 01:12
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FINAL ANSWER: cloud menehune
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Jun 6, 2021 01:54
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I'm going to gently caress an alien and make it cum. This is my promise
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Jun 6, 2021 01:55
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Hatebag posted:I'm going to gently caress an alien and make it cum. This is my promise what if they can only do it once and then they die what then
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Jun 6, 2021 01:56
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do i die too?
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Jun 6, 2021 02:02
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Hodgepodge posted:i'm not willing to discount ftl considering that scientists are admitting they got stuck in a dogmatic run because they thought big particle accelerators would give us what we need to move forward and we've been lucky to get some odd moving muons from them there was a paper not too long ago involving an alcubierre warp field with a rejiggered geometry that wouldn't require negative energy to function, so it's definitely not out of the realm of possibility
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Jun 6, 2021 02:07
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Vermain posted:there was a paper not too long ago involving an alcubierre warp field with a rejiggered geometry that wouldn't require negative energy to function, so it's definitely not out of the realm of possibility uhh... doesn't that poo poo still call for exotic matter tho?
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Jun 6, 2021 02:09
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The Protagonist posted:what if they can only do it once and then they die Then I'll give em one hell of a send-off!
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Jun 6, 2021 02:10
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Vomik posted:if aliens are real and come here and they don't pull an independence day and destroy the white house then i don't even want to talk to those dumbass liberals imo
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Jun 6, 2021 02:12
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Bideo James posted:tractor beams do the same thing as getting sucked off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oas5HytYr2c
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Jun 6, 2021 02:13
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The Protagonist posted:uhh... doesn't that poo poo still call for exotic matter tho? iirc, the redone geometry doesn't require exotic matter, but it does require a bonkers amount of energy, and you still probably can't get genuine FTL out of it unless there's some major breakthrough in physics. you'd still be able to cover enormous distances in comparatively little time, but any aliens visiting earth in something other than unmanned probes are likely going to be from somewhere nearby in the galaxy and not from different galaxies altogether
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Jun 6, 2021 02:17
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Vomik posted:you're stretching our physics limitations way more than they are - as far as i can tell you're relating the missing link between general relativity & newtonian physics as proof that all of our physics is based on the assumption of no gravity..?? (even though we have planes and have launched ships to other planets). even if we had the missing link it wouldn't matter in this context. if these aliens are real it would have to mean this world is a manufactured fake and the physics outside of it have no bearing on the fake environment that we were incubated in there is no missing link between general relativity and newtonian physics. quantum physics works and relativity works, they are just incompatible and we have no framework for reconciling them. so quantum physics by necessity exists in a hypothetical gravity free environment and GR breaks down whereever quantum effects can't be ignored.
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Jun 6, 2021 03:28
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The Protagonist posted:uhh... doesn't that poo poo still call for exotic matter tho? negative energy is a type of exotic matter. Lentz claimed to have eliminated it. https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2021/03/11/ftl-thoughts-on-a-new-paper-by-erik-lentz/ here's a writeup on the paper. Vermain posted:iirc, the redone geometry doesn't require exotic matter, but it does require a bonkers amount of energy, and you still probably can't get genuine FTL out of it unless there's some major breakthrough in physics. you'd still be able to cover enormous distances in comparatively little time, but any aliens visiting earth in something other than unmanned probes are likely going to be from somewhere nearby in the galaxy and not from different galaxies altogether only the amount of mass-energy of jupiter. It's been lowered before, some negative energy warp drive models used only as much energy as a nuclear submarine. he's working on tweaking the model in the same way,
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Jun 6, 2021 03:48
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqO0Nc5oxE0 also heres a video of the physicists talking about it with a youtube hypebeast dude and heres him replying to an ama on reddit https://eriklentzphd.blogspot.com/2021/03/reddit-q.html
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Jun 6, 2021 03:52
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Aliens haven't made contact cuz they're scared, straight chickens
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Jun 6, 2021 03:55
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https://www.npl.washington.edu/av/altvw209.html here's an article in Analog The Lentz Soliton FTL Drive In a recent paper, Dr. Erik W. Lentz, presently a postdoc at Germany 's Göttingen University Institute for Astrophysics (and who received his PhD in astrophysics at my own University of Washington ) has demonstrated that there is a positive-energy space-time soliton solution of Einstein's equations of general relativity. Using the Arnowitt, Deser, and Misner (ADM) formulation of general relativity and a hyperbolic rather than linear or elliptic relation for the ADM "shift vector", Lentz has been able to construct a moving, possibly superluminal, soliton that involves only positive mass-energy. His soliton is constructed to contain a relatively flat-space central region with minimal tidal forces, in which internal proper time corresponds to outside time (i.e., no relativistic time dilation), and internal observers move with the speed of the soliton itself without feeling inertial forces. The transport logistics of the Lentz Drive are similar to those of the Alcubierre Drive . The Lentz soliton has a "delta" shape formed from about seven diamond-shaped blocks of specially-configured ADM shift vectors "flying in formation" to surround the flat interior region and to move it forward. The volume of local space that is expanded or contracted by the Lentz soliton is rather complex, containing multiple regions corresponding to negative and positive hyperbolic space expansions. In contrast, the Alcubierre soliton contains only one negative and one positive expansion region. The weak energy condition of general relativity, which is strongly violated by the Alcubierre Warp Drive , is satisfied by the Lentz soliton, and it also satisfies the momentum condition of general relativity. Despite the virtue of its positive energy, the amount of mass-energy needed to form a Lentz soliton is a major problem, Lentz estimates that a soliton moving at the speed of light with a diameter of 200 meters and a shell thickness of 1 meter would require a mass-energy of around 1/10 of a solar mass, not a universe-worth but still a dismayingly large value. He points out, however, that techniques already in the literature have shown that it is possible to greatly reduce the mass-magnitude required by the Alcuiberre drive. These techniques could probably be similarly applied to the Lentz soliton drive, reducing the required mass-energy to a more obtainable value.
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Jun 6, 2021 03:56
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Azathoth posted:It's important to look at what is happening through the lens of narrative. So, the angels of Daniel and Ezekiel then. Gotta say, how else would illiterate, uneducated shepherds describe these things?
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Jun 6, 2021 03:57
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Vomik posted:gotta take a page from america's playbook and just drop one of their space nukes on us to demonstrate their might that'll bring a lot to the negotiating table Maybe it really is a bunch of joyriding teens that are trying to repair the damage they did after one of their space scooters blew up and killed the dinosaurs, hoping nobody would notice
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Jun 6, 2021 04:00
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PawParole posted:negative energy is a type of exotic matter. Lentz claimed to have eliminated it.   
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Jun 6, 2021 04:00
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really hard to square the crushing need to know with the crushing certainty that we likely never will especially after all the gin
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Jun 6, 2021 04:06
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Google Butt posted:Aliens haven't made contact cuz they're scared, straight chickens Gonna blow your mind when they land on the white house lawn and this guy waddles out. 
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Jun 6, 2021 04:10
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Jun 6, 2021 04:18
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It's loving wild that he came up with a positive energy solution but I still feel like it can't possibly actually be superluminal and workable. Why? Well even if you overcome all the other issues, superluminal travel still breaks causality as far as we know... Which puts it down is unlikely in my book But then again what do I know I'm just a big dumb ape hooting at poo poo
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Jun 6, 2021 04:51
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Just a reminder that there are some completely boring plausible explanations for this stuff, too. https://twitter.com/MickWest/status/1400869663630786561 https://twitter.com/michaelshermer/status/1398667579158376458
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Jun 6, 2021 05:02
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The Protagonist posted:It's loving wild that he came up with a positive energy solution but I still feel like it can't possibly actually be superluminal and workable. nah, these are based on general relativity, i think the phrase i can't honestly claim to understand that gets tossed around is "valid solutions to einstein's field equations."
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Jun 6, 2021 05:02
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coelomate posted:Just a reminder that there are some completely boring plausible explanations for this stuff, too. mick west is a loving clown lol
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Jun 6, 2021 05:04
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The constant problem with the skeptic arguments here is that they all hyperfocus on the released vids and images and then just handwave everything else like eyewitness testimony + other readings as "human and technical error"
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Jun 6, 2021 05:12
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amazing how mick west always knows more than everyone else lmao pilots, radar operators, physicists, the pentagon, radars themselves, cameras, etc etc, all loving morons, all malfunctioning, over and over and over. but mick west, he watched some lovely youtube clips, so now hes the real radar and camera expert and jet fighter expert and physics expert, and knows the truth about everything, that its all birds and balloons, checkmate ufoailures 
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Jun 6, 2021 05:12
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Hodgepodge posted:nah, these are based on general relativity, i think the phrase i can't honestly claim to understand that gets tossed around is "valid solutions to einstein's field equations." It's saying they came up with an artificial configuration of mass-energy that would distort space time just so to create a soliton that could drag something inside along with it.. potentially
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Jun 6, 2021 05:12
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mick west is just scared of aliens lol
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Jun 6, 2021 05:14
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coelomate posted:Just a reminder that there are some completely boring plausible explanations for this stuff, too. Yeah it's the same parallax effect discussion that's been used to debunk these videos before. Kinda convenient how those explanations always focus on the videos themselves and not on any of the corroborating evidence from both the air and the ground. Plus in the article one of the skeptics keeps hinting that what they were seeing was the exhaust of other F-18s, which is pretty lol. E:fb you buncha nerds
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Jun 6, 2021 05:16
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coelomate posted:Just a reminder that there are some completely boring plausible explanations for this stuff, too. lol no https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYLKK6ZlCHc Rah! posted:amazing how mick west always knows more than everyone else lmao  honestly do not understand the mindset that can look at all of this and think "nah y'all are being dumb i'm pretty sure i'm the expert here" probably libs tbh
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Jun 6, 2021 05:16
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The Protagonist posted:It's saying they came up with an artificial configuration of mass-energy that would distort space time just so to create a soliton that could drag something inside along with it.. potentially yeah its the bending space part that (in some versions of the idea) allow for causality-violation free ftl keep in mind space distorting faster than light is standard physics at the moment; inflation was and iirc remains significantly faster than c (although there was last i checked an inconsistency between some of the main methods used to measure the size of the universe)
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Jun 6, 2021 05:18
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my favorite was the video where the youtuber smugly pointed out how you could see the birds wings flapping Like gently caress you could. Anybody seeing wing flaps there is engaging in just as much wishful thinking as the people convinced they're getting probed
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Jun 6, 2021 05:19
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The existence of something we can't understand in and of itself shatters the worldview for some people. I've casually mentioned this new report to a few friends and a couple wanted to talk about it, but there was one person that shot down the mere mention of the subject because she "just wasn't interested" and this is someone that can talk my head off for hours on literally any subject. Maybe I was reading into it but I get the sense that, for her, the topic was a Pandora's Box.
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Jun 6, 2021 05:19
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