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If you're building a system, why not buy a WiFi card and put it in this one to see if the fix works, and if it doesn't then you already have the wifi card the new rig should reasonably have anyway. Alternatively, you can turn your 10 install into a pro one (or, worst case, flatten and reinstall as pro) with an $8 windows 7 key from sa-mart and then have the group policy abilities to stomp on updates. Nothing wrong with just modernizing their poo poo anyway, but there are easier fixes available to the problem you are specifically mad about. Like I'm one of the biggest proponents ITT of "updates should gently caress off forever until told" and I'm telling you it's not THAT hard to lock down, here :p E: accidental page snipe with update chat, here's a dog to make it worth looking at 
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Fruits of the sea posted:I have 3 keyboard settings in win10. For some reason at seemingly random times, windows adds a 4th US keyboard. It doesn't show up in the language panel with the other 3 so I can't remove it as one would the others. What's the deal? This happened to me with some version of English geared towards an African country (which was very wtf). The only way you can remove that setting is by adding it and then removing it. Make sure that you select the exact right Language and Keyboard setting or else it won’t work. It wasn’t a permanent fix for me, I eventually flattened the drive for other reasons but it would come back occasionally.
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BoosterDuck posted:I hear satya will change the name to just windows which sounds interesting 
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Jun 5, 2021 11:53
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Combat Pretzel posted:According to new entries showing up in WSUS, it seems that's correct. Dammit all, I just updated and patched to current the Win10 Pro version! Is there supposed to be a “Windows” new version coming out anywhen soon-ish now? I was already saving pennies for a good VR set by my birthday in November and maybe a single AAA game. It’s the whole reason I (literally!) drove myself nuts getting a new current generation computer in the first place   !
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Jun 5, 2021 15:03
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I assume you'll get it as a regular feature update. MS doesn't need to ask consumers for money for Windows when it's included with pretty much every PC and businesses are buying Pro upgrades as volume licensees.
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Jun 5, 2021 15:10
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DerekSmartymans posted:Dammit all, I just updated and patched to current the Win10 Pro version! Is there supposed to be a “Windows” new version coming out anywhen soon-ish now? I was already saving pennies for a good VR set by my birthday in November and maybe a single AAA game. It’s the whole reason I (literally!) drove myself nuts getting a new current generation computer in the first place
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Jun 5, 2021 17:09
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i'm looking forward to the eventual windows update that lets me talk to my computer like other modern operating systems do display fusion will add this before MS
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Jun 5, 2021 17:38
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Statutory Ape posted:i'm looking forward to the eventual windows update that lets me talk to my computer like other modern operating systems do they've already got that, you can talk to cortana just like master chief
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Jun 5, 2021 17:45
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Klyith posted:they've already got that, you can talk to cortana just like master chief can i get them to restart my PC for me yet?
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Jun 5, 2021 18:04
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Microsoft is bad with names. We're lucky it's not win series dows.
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Jun 5, 2021 18:29
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Statutory Ape posted:can i get them to restart my PC for me yet? right click on your desktop, new -> shortcut in the shortcut creator paste "shutdown.exe /r /t 0" and then name it "Restart my PC" move it into your start menu (or right click and say "pin to start") now say "Hey Cortana restart my PC"
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Jun 5, 2021 18:33
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It will be simply Windows S Mode Live .net for Workgroups Enterprise edition for Education N
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Jun 5, 2021 18:37
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Klyith posted:right click on your desktop, new -> shortcut
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Jun 5, 2021 19:13
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If Windows stops being 10, does that mean maybe someone else can finally take this horrible thread off my hands??? (I'm still hoping for someone to pick up and reboot it.)
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Jun 5, 2021 19:46
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nielsm posted:If Windows stops being 10, does that mean maybe someone else can finally take this horrible thread off my hands??? Good news, nobody reads the OP anyway. However I hope the next iteration of this thread can be combined with the Windows Software thread, since there's a big crossover in terms of what gets asked/answered in both.
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Factor Mystic posted:Good news, nobody reads the OP anyway. However I hope the next iteration of this thread can be combined with the Windows Software thread, since there's a big crossover in terms of what gets asked/answered in both. My vote would be a Windows OS thread, and a Windows Software thread (more for questions like "what program should I use to do X" etc).
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edit: found a registry key that does it, MS doesn't want you to do it through GPO anymore I guess?? Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer\ add a REG_DWORD: "DisableSearchBoxSuggestions" , set to 1  Anyone dug into how to kill searching the web from the start menu for good? I just got 20H2 recently and looks like the old tricks don't seem to work. On 1903 I had a registry key value from the internet, but the path doesn't seem like it's in the same place anymore. I spent about an hour digging into it and trawling different internet forums, but most of the settings don't seem to apply now. This is what I did so far in Group Policy and it's still not dead  Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Search 
Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Cloud Content 
User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Cloud Content 
User Configuration > Administrative Templates > Start Menu and Taskbar 
 edit going to keep trying stuff and if I find something I'll edit it in here, updating with all the settings so it's easily searchable RightClickSaveAs fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Jun 5, 2021 |
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Jun 5, 2021 21:30
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You seem to be missing (or did not include a screenshot with it) "Do not Search Internet" from \Start Menu and Taskbar, under user configuration.
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Jun 5, 2021 21:41
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astral posted:You seem to be missing (or did not include a screenshot with it) "Do not Search Internet" from \Start Menu and Taskbar, under user configuration.
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Found a registry key you can add that does it, really stupid that you apparently can't just do it through GPO. So glad I don't manage AD for work anymore, this is blood pressure increasing stuff. Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer add REG_DWORD "DisableSearchBoxSuggestions" with a value of 1
RightClickSaveAs fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Jun 5, 2021 |
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Jun 5, 2021 23:18
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Haha, the explorer part of that key plain just doesn't exist on my computer. Making it and adding that value doesn't work. Who even knows at this point why that could be.
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Jun 5, 2021 23:57
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You can also try this reg entry:code:
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Thanks, that curiously also does nothing for me. Never mind though, RightClickSaveAs has got something that works for them it seems and I was just playing along at home for sport.
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Jun 6, 2021 00:49
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Do I need Malwarebytes if I'm keeping Windows Defender updated? It's a disk hog.
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Jun 6, 2021 02:09
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:Do I need Malwarebytes if I'm keeping Windows Defender updated? It's a disk hog. The general advice for quite a while is to avoid 3rd party security software. But if you really can't stop yourself from downloading willy-nilly from Russian porn sites then maybe your case would be different. 
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:Do I need Malwarebytes if I'm keeping Windows Defender updated? It's a disk hog. No, just install it when you think something's up and then remove it after
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Flipperwaldt posted:Thanks, that curiously also does nothing for me. Never mind though, RightClickSaveAs has got something that works for them it seems and I was just playing along at home for sport.
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RightClickSaveAs posted:Oh wow I just have no idea any more. Which version are you on? I know there was a different registry key I used for 1903 in a location that doesn't seem to exist in 20H2 anymore, so they seem to be constantly changing those. I think I'm expecting the wrong thing to happen though. I've never seen anything like what's happening in the right column here. In the left column, I don't remember seeing Search the web and anything below it, but maybe that was a thing and I never actively noticed. I just get what's happening in the light blue rectangle now. I thought that was what I was trying to get rid of, but y'all are probably talking about all the other crap.
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The "see web results" will show up in the left column even with everything turned off - it only pops up when the search indexer can't find anything that exactly matches the search query. The results in the right column indicate that automatic web search is still on though. In any case the search indexer doesn't always give reliable results - I have some apps that it can never find. I'd recommend using a third party app like Search Everything if you need to look up stuff a lot.
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I guess that explains that. I must have had it turned off already one way or another for the last four years, I just don't remember. And yeah I use Everything for most searches. Start menu search is sometimes convenient to find where some settings or control panel applets are.
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I was wrong about that registry bit above, MS changes this poo poo every year and I forget to delete the previous year's .reg file. The current one is this:code:Powershell, Get-AppxPackage *Microsoft.549981C3F5F10* | Remove-AppxPackage Zero interference or side-effects with normal windows search & indexer, so if you always want normal local results it'll be just as good (or bad) as before. Cortana doesn't do any extra indexing, it just connects to bing and does the digital assistant stuff.
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Thank you all for the help, I'm flabberghasted at how much better everything is running now. Is there a guide to how to manage custom fonts? I've got a bunch of fonts which are just rotated versions of each other and I'd like to list them as subtypes or something.
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Fruits of the sea posted:The "see web results" will show up in the left column even with everything turned off - it only pops up when the search indexer can't find anything that exactly matches the search query. The results in the right column indicate that automatic web search is still on though.  Klyith posted:I was wrong about that registry bit above, MS changes this poo poo every year and I forget to delete the previous year's .reg file. The current one is this: Ohh thanks for reminding me of removing Windows components with PS, I haven't done that yet. Although that AppxPackage doesn't exist on my computer, I may have removed it but now I can't remember, Cortana is definitely gone even though the web search was still around??
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Klyith posted:I was wrong about that registry bit above, MS changes this poo poo every year and I forget to delete the previous year's .reg file. The current one is this:
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Current User effects the user you're logged in as (or running regedit as), whereas Local Machine effects the entire machine. I'd expect the opposite from what you've said. Sounds like maybe it was just something that needed a log off and back on, or possibly a restart, to take effect.
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Ok, this is a beauty for you folks but could use some insight here. My late 70s father in law was still using a circa 2008-2009 computer I built for him back in the day. Running Vista  To be clear, the computer was only currently used for Freecell. Nothing else. It wasn't connected to the internet at all. He has a 2-3 year old win10 PC for his day-day stuff but, he sure loved his Vista freecell something fierce. Mercifully, the Vista computer apparently died last week. Sounds like it totally froze and then failed to get any PS supply response afterwards. I think the PS failed and potentially killed his mobo, but to be honest I really do not care. I'm not about to put much effort into salvage a 12 year old PC (although it is rocking an 8800GT). I know you can get Freecell from the MS store for Win10 and yes he does have it on his other PC. However, he LOVES his Vista freecell. He's got a titch of an obsessive-compulsive and logs all his scores in a spreadsheet and I think it would pain him if he could never play it again, and I know he likes it far, far more than the current Windows one he got from the MS Store. ANYHOW, I took the old HDD out of his system and plugged it into my SATA-USB connector and it seems fine, I can browse the drive at least. I believe I found the Freecell application. I can not execute it on my PC though. I suspect it's because a 32/64 bit thing? (although the directories are called AMD64 so idk) Is it possible at all to copy freecell (and hopefully his scores/history if any) to a current Win10 PC? If so, not difficult to do? I am not a windows guru by any means. I am competent enough to build a PC, partition and install it from scratch along with streamline and remove bloatware, and some basic troubleshooting but that's about it for my Windows skills. Snip of his HDD with "Freecell" searched 
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Someone bundled the Windows 7 versions of the games. Virustotal greenlights the installer, so I guess it's probably ok. That freecell looks the same as the Vista one in screenshots. I can't make the comparison in more detail, I don't remember if anything changed. In any case it'd have offline gameplay and probably the same scoring mechanism?
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Thats awesome - thank you so much for that - I'll give that a shot Barring that any other ideas for resurrecting the old program off his HDD into Win10 or should I just forget about it?
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I think the link above is the only way to get those programs running on Win10. It worked great for my grandparents' computer when I got them upgraded to Win10 4 or 5 years back, but would occasionally break after a Windows Update, necessitating an uninstall/reinstall of the games.
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slidebite posted:Barring that any other ideas for resurrecting the old program off his HDD into Win10 or should I just forget about it? It's not 32 vs 64bit, the "AMD64" is what a 64-bit version of Windows uses. The freecell exe you found in WinSxS just isn't the whole program. WinSxS is a weird folder system that windows uses to maintain multiple versions of system stuff, not a location things are really installed to. So there's more to it, probably in Program Files, but I don't know where. I could probably figure it out if I had the drive in front of me (whoever packaged up the Win7Games thing managed it), but I'd need to poke at it. But I don't think the basic windows games changed between Vista & 7, so I think that installer will do ya just fine.
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