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TheRat posted:No-go zones probably have vastly better food The mother of all no-go zones: the Calzone.
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Guavanaut posted:Dick Dorkins at it again. lmao, lookit this fuckin' robot "error, designated work does not fit into either of the two (2) categories of literature, science fiction or allegory, possible manifestation of complex psychological and emotional responses detected, discard immediately"
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Jun 6, 2021 13:42
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One morning, when Richard Dawkins woke from troubled dreams, he found himself transformed in his bed into a fucken dork that nobody should listen to.
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Jun 6, 2021 13:53
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I kid you not, he turns himself into a beetle, he's called Beetle Dick, funniest poo poo I've ever seen.
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Jun 6, 2021 14:15
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He has one of the worst cases of scientist/engineer brain around, but really he could have still gotten away with it if he just didn't post. Without Twitter he'd be Prof. Richard Dawkins, respected biologist, inventor of the meme, author of numerous brilliant popular science books (and a couple questionable ones on religion). But he's posted himself into being Dick Dorkins, the oblivious village idiot who seems mostly harmless, but then will start on about the Muslims with a couple drinks in him.
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Jun 6, 2021 14:17
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It is, I think, the same force that makes him write stupid books that compels him to Post. In fact if he had been allowed to Post earlier in life we might have been able to identify the problem earlier and we would have been spared the literature as he may have never bothered.
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Jun 6, 2021 14:23
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I'm sorry, loving Didsbury? Now I’m just confused. https://twitter.com/brownbauer/status/1401502039079895041
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Jun 6, 2021 14:28
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With its M&S foodhall and artisanal cheese shop?
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sebzilla posted:I mean, "the parents killed her" is definitely the funny edgy banter explanation but it doesn't really stack up. Neither the how or the why questions are easily answered, and if you'd killed your kid why would you ntentionally create an enormous international media circus for years? The detective originally on the case wrote a book based on the case files called the truth of the lie that goes through what's known- it's available for free and is well worth a read. He makes a strong case that the parents negligence killed the kid and they then disposed of the body rather than get in poo poo for it, and that they had the means, motive and opportunity to do so. That's lots of weird elements to the story that got essentially zero press here- like sky news in the UK being rung by the parents before they contacted the hotel or let local cops know the kid was missing- or why the kids DNA was found in a car by cadaver sniffer dogs, when the parents rented it after the disappearance. The media circus was deliberate and necessary because they knew without it, even under the best light possible, losing your kid under circumstances of "well there was childcare available but instead we shut our infant children alone in a room in a foreign country and went on the piss for a few hours, and whoops, now one is gone" was loving negligent past the point of criminal- but look at the treatment they got in the british press- like royalty.
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Jun 6, 2021 14:29
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See also the inherent racism in the press insisting that the MET go over and sort it out, because the foreigns could not possibly have a police force on par with (or better than) ours.
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Jun 6, 2021 14:39
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Comrade Fakename posted:Now I’m just confused.
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Jun 6, 2021 14:39
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TheRat posted:No-go zones probably have vastly better food Luckily with unironic delivery service
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Jun 6, 2021 14:39
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Blind drunk at dinner in Portugal in 2013, I was told two of the other people eating were Portuguese police officers. Like a true Brit I immediately demanded to know where Maddie was and they just as quickly shot back that it was the parents wot done it.
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Jun 6, 2021 14:42
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DesperateDan posted:The detective originally on the case wrote a book based on the case files called the truth of the lie that goes through what's known- it's available for free and is well worth a read. One thing that's always stuck with me was a documentary about the Shannon Matthews disappearance where the detective in charge said that in missing children cases they always give the opportunity to the parent(s) to make an on-screen appeal and almost inevitably the more willing they are to appear on television to ask for the return of their child the more likely they are to - at the very least - have considerably more knowledge of the circumstances of the disappearance than they're letting on. Given the disappearance happened around the same time as, and the documentary was being filmed a year after, the disappearance of Madeleine McCann I can't help but think him putting it in this way was very, very intentional.
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Jun 6, 2021 14:56
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https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/1401498902411595776 no way wow i’m shock
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Jun 6, 2021 15:21
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Amazing https://twitter.com/fatimazsaid/status/1401302894394159111
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Jun 6, 2021 15:25
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Comrade Fakename posted:Now I’m just confused. Wowza, even for the mail that’s a surprisingly overt attempt to stir racial hatred I hope this isn’t signalling that the press is going even more mask off. We’re a bit early into brexit for race wars
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Jun 6, 2021 15:33
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Bobby Deluxe posted:See also the inherent racism in the press insisting that the MET go over and sort it out, because the foreigns could not possibly have a police force on par with (or better than) ours. The idea that the Portuguese police were "incompetent" largely came from their idea that the negligent parents who were the last people to see Madeleine should at least be considered as suspects. Seriously, that was the justification for bringing the Met in.
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Jun 6, 2021 15:34
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who’s gonna blame some local brown kid for stealing if they’re not there
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Jun 6, 2021 15:35
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So to play Devil’s Advocate a bit in relation to the McCann’s case. When it comes to the tragedy of a child’s death, there is a yearning for it to make sense. For there to be some explanation, even if that explanation is horrific. So the idea that “the parents were sedating their children so they could go out on the lash every night and they accidentally killed their child by getting the dose wrong. And then they panicked, hid the body, came up with a story about how she was missing and now are suddenly in too deep to ever confess and have to keep the lie going indefinitely” is appealing to this strange part of our brains, because it imposes logic onto a tragic event. It makes more sense than “there was a paedophile in the area, he just happened to spot a child un-attended and struck.” The reason we prefer it (I think) is because our brains want it to be “there is a secret pattern to all this that we can study and premptily stop this from happening again” as opposed to “weird, really bad things sometimes happen. No moral.” Like I know the idea that there just so happens to be a paedophile in operation unoticed in the area seems far fetched, except if you watch any amount of True Crime stories you see serial offenders can and do operate for years before being caught. Now don’t take any of this as being a full throated defence of the McCanns. Even by their own admissions, they were appallingly negligent in looking after their children. It’s just that my mind has switched from “this was a cover-up, they did it.” To “Awful Occam’s Razor strike again.”
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Jun 6, 2021 16:13
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I think "there was some kind of terrible accident, and the parents panicked, knowing that they had been negligent, and like all lies it ended up getting far bigger and bigger as it had to cover itself" requires fewer assumptions or tidy narratives than any other case. Doesn't even have to be sedatives involved, a child of that age can easily endanger themselves left unattended. Which is why you don't do that. Pedos on the prowl is possible, but that sounds more like the 'shadows in the dark'/'malicious agent' convenient narrative than 'kid falls off chair' or something.
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Jun 6, 2021 16:18
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In more regional news https://twitter.com/tristancorkpost/status/1401544305421045765?s=21 It was never about education in the first place, just like in the USA when they put cheap poo poo statues up of confederate war generals.
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Jun 6, 2021 16:23
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Necrothatcher posted:I'm doing one of these races tomorrow and this story has scared the poo poo out of my gran. I've told her the North downs usually have much calmer conditions. Did you survive?
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Jun 6, 2021 16:29
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willie_dee posted:In more regional news It really is. It's actually fascinating to see - the Colston statue was deliberately and explicitly put up by a group of Tory businessmen who wanted to set Colston up as the ideal civic benefactor (rich, mercantile, Tory, Anglican) who they could then claim to be acting in the tradition of (and which would also act as a counter-narrative to all that pesky socialism going on in Bristol at the time). When the statue was there, lauding Colston as a 'wise and virtuous son', the same vested interests and conservative groups were fiercely against any moves to remove or relocate the statue, or even reinterpret it where they stood. It had to stand in its original place and form, right in the middle of the city, where everyone could see it and absorb its message. After all, it's "history", and that's so important to learn about. The moment it was graffiti-ed and thrown in the harbour, it ceased to be a symbol of its original narrative. For ever more, the statue's claim to fame is that it was removed by a popular protest seeking social justice and carrying out direct action. Even it was restored/replaced and put back exactly as it was, the Myth of Colston has been busted. He'll always be the Bristol slave-trader whose statue was torn down and thrown into the harbour. So now the same interests that fought tooth and nail to make the statue as visible as possible are desperately organising to try and prevent the statue being seen by anyone.
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Jun 6, 2021 16:38
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Goodbye, NHS. The utterly incompetent Harding will probably be appointed as she is a tory with fk all experience. quote:Labour warns on next NHS England chief as Dido Harding expected to apply https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jun/06/labour-warns-on-next-nhs-england-chief-as-dido-harding-expected-to-apply
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Jun 6, 2021 16:41
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BalloonFish posted:It really is. It's actually fascinating to see - the Colston statue was deliberately and explicitly put up by a group of Tory businessmen who wanted to set Colston up as the ideal civic benefactor (rich, mercantile, Tory, Anglican) who they could then claim to be acting in the tradition of (and which would also act as a counter-narrative to all that pesky socialism going on in Bristol at the time). I hadn’t thought about it like that, that’s a great addition to the logic behind everything. Thank you.
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Jun 6, 2021 16:53
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NORMAN NORMAN!!!!!!!!!! NOW THE TALIBANS IN PUDDING NORTON ARE TELLING THE YOUNG WOMEN THEY CAN'T GO OUT WITHOUT COVERING THEMSELVES UP NO NORMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S DIFFERENT I ONLY SCOLDED THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE DRESSED LIKE TARTS, OH YOU ARE OBTUSE, NORMAN 
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Jun 6, 2021 16:59
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Has anyone asked Hancock if Cummings is lying, why he would risk doing so in a hearing to attack him so directly? Or is that not possible because that would that be borderline good journalism jiggerypokery fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jun 6, 2021 |
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Jun 6, 2021 17:06
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Guavanaut posted:I think "there was some kind of terrible accident, and the parents panicked, knowing that they had been negligent, and like all lies it ended up getting far bigger and bigger as it had to cover itself" requires fewer assumptions or tidy narratives than any other case. Either way, the thing i really want to know is where the impulse to constantly loving report on it comes from. Like, is it the parents? Is it the reporters? Is it the editors? Is it the paper owners? It's for drat sure not the people doing the investigation, there's no way they're actually generating new information at this point.
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Jun 6, 2021 17:40
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thespaceinvader posted:Either way, the thing i really want to know is where the impulse to constantly loving report on it comes from. Taken at face value the story - child spirited away while on holiday - hits a lot of fear-titillation buttons in people's brains, and the critical mass of coverage it reached over both that and other interpretations of the story means it will always be "news" if you can get even the most tenuous new information out of it. Although they'd be quick to blame the readers for driving the demand, it's 100% on the editors here.
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Jun 6, 2021 17:56
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crispix posted:NORMAN that's a good norman 
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Jun 6, 2021 18:07
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crispix posted:NORMAN Now you've got me pining for British sitcoms 1960-1990. 
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Jun 6, 2021 18:14
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Jun 6, 2021 18:27
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Goodbye, NHS. Simon Stevens has been slowly parcelling poo poo up to sell off. Having someone incompetent in charge might actually stem the tide.
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Jun 6, 2021 18:35
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yeah the one thing keeping me calm is that its pretty much super bad right now they just havn't got around to operation sell it all yet Harding isn't more evil than the rest of them but she is really loving stupid so it might be funny... initially
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Jun 6, 2021 18:57
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https://twitter.com/bumpfn/status/1401555450093522944 absolutely lost it seeing this headline in the grocery store lol
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Jun 6, 2021 19:03
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The Englishman's burden innit.
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Jun 6, 2021 19:14
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Britain steps up to poison the world with lead
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Jun 6, 2021 19:22
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Ovid emphasizes that justice and peace defined the Golden Age. He adds that in this age, men did not yet know the art of navigation and therefore did not explore the larger world. Further, no man had knowledge of any arts but primitive agriculture. In the Silver Age, Jupiter introduces the seasons, and men consequently learn the art of agriculture and architecture. In the Bronze Age, Ovid writes, men were prone to warfare, but not impiety. Finally, in the Iron Age, men demarcate nations with boundaries; they learn the arts of navigation and mining; they are warlike, greedy, and impious. Truth, modesty, and loyalty are nowhere to be found.
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Jun 6, 2021 19:30
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Did you survive? I did, though it was hot and very miserable. Spent the week with my feet in ice buckets playing Monster Hunter.
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Jun 6, 2021 19:31
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love to photoshop pictures of an 18-year-old girl because I can't actually counter her argument with facts
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