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One more!  Interviewed for two different openings at the same place. Received two offers, so I got to take my pick. It's an all-AWS shop, heavy on Terraform, Kubernetes, etc. Salary was in-line with my expectations and comes with a benefits package that puts my previous workplace to shame. Cheaper insurance with better coverage, and a 2-for-1 match retirement plan to boot. Queadlunn posted:A merry YOTJ to us all!
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Its been a complete shitshow at work since last week with several systems being broken, a combination from a 365 migration and group policy probably caused outlook not to work anymore and the only way to fix it was by pushing an update into computers but the update system is broken too. Now our higher ups put a hard deadline on getting all the machines migrated which means I'm just flipping machines the moment I see them log into the network. We were getting a lot of pushback by some of the organizations that they weren't ready because of x y z and now any excuse they have is useless because either you migrate or your account gets disabled. If I was in charge I'd ask each of their directors for a memo for each of their machines that gets disabled thats going to need more work than just a re-image. I got hired as customer support and the last 4-5 months Ive been doing mostly sysadmin stuff. Im afraid of logging into the ticketing system because its going to have like 80 unassigned tickets we are going to have to sort through
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How do you even gently caress a 365 migration up, either your coworkers or whoever you’re working with are complete failures
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i am a moron posted:How do you even gently caress a 365 migration up, either your coworkers or whoever you’re working with are complete failures This is the army so everything is rear end backwards. The people that provide the email service are in a completely different organization than the people setting up the group policies for the domains in each region. So suddenly people that were migrated into the regions domain were starting to get a 365 pop up when trying to set up their email when they hadn't even been furnished with a 365 account yet. I spent like an hour trying to troubleshoot the Department of Public Works director outlook and we couldn't figure out the problem, it looked like his entire mailbox had been nuked. Ended up being that he came in from the pentagon and they ran on their OWN system and they migrated earlier than the army. Its a clusterfuck
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Wait, like the US Army? Or the national guard? Cause i thought they migrated all the active duty orgs to hosted Exchange circa 2011 (was on a division staff at the time so my actual knowledge of what was happening easily could’ve been wrong). Which would make a 365 migration easy. Edit: and the hosted exchange migration was like ‘hey here’s your new email you loving dipshit good luck logging in’ so sounds about par for the course lmao i am a moron fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Jun 6, 2021 |
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Cao Ni Ma posted:This is the army so everything is rear end backwards. The people that provide the email service are in a completely different organization than the people setting up the group policies for the domains in each region. So suddenly people that were migrated into the regions domain were starting to get a 365 pop up when trying to set up their email when they hadn't even been furnished with a 365 account yet. I was both in the US army and in Commo, so it doesn't surprise me how hosed up things still are. I am sure the army still doesn't know what the gently caress to do about technology. They don't recruit technical people to do technical stuff, they recruit soldiers and ask them to sometimes do technical things. Its setup to fail from the start as few people with any of those skills are actually going to join and even less so that the few that do actually end up in the right place to make a difference. Military contractors in this space, in hopes to fill the gaps, also loving suck to the point of it all being laughable and stupid. I haven't met a miltary contractor working in tech that wasn't a bottom barrel worker who was sucking up a paycheck, hoping nobody would ask them to do anything. Somehow 10x as generate as the public sector could possible be! They just won't let tradition get out of the way and realize that much like the air force, they need recruit passable people, teach them some basic skills, and let them focus on those things instead of trying to make them part time soldiers.
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i am a moron posted:Wait, like the US Army? Or the national guard? Cause i thought they migrated all the active duty orgs to hosted Exchange circa 2011 (was on a division staff at the time so my actual knowledge of what was happening easily could’ve been wrong). Which would make a 365 migration easy. Regular army. I was in the reserves when the shift happened to hosted exchange and we were furnished @mail.mil. Now its happening again and we are getting @usa.army.mil or something like that. The whole thing has been messy, from the initial rollout of teams cvr and now the O365 change. Sickening posted:I was both in the US army and in Commo, so it doesn't surprise me how hosed up things still are. I was at a brigade S6 let me tell the vast majority of the 25 series we had in our battalions were not IT people, and we had a signal battalion under us. The only other guys that actually knew what they were doing were our warrant officers and a few of the officers that were dual personas that worked at the nec or commands IT office. I decided not to reup when they had me be the sgt of the guard for an entire year while mobilized while a higher ranked less capable person manned the IT section. A year after my contract was done I was still getting whatsapp messages on how to fix poo poo that was breaking at the unit. And not to bring service branches into the equation but the "Not hiring actual IT people" happens to all of them, you are a soldier first, a janitor second and whatever MOS you got third. When maria destroyed most comms on the island we had NG/ANG/AirForce/CoastGuard people come to our unit to use our network because we were literally the only ones in the area that were able to get them up and running on day 1 of the recovery efforts. Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Jun 6, 2021 |
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Cao Ni Ma posted:, you are a soldier first, a janitor second and whatever MOS you got third. This is how I got into IT by being assigned to some weirdo program as an artillery person assigned to a division staff and luckily got skills I parlayed into a high paying career instead of working in an oil field after my enlistment or something. The good thing is when people talk about scale or sprawl in the civilian world you can be all oh yea? The bad thing is giving any of your time to uncle Sam’s demented rear end
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So the recruiter called me about that job again. Apparently they're not going to offer me the full amount, I don't know if they've said a number but the recruiter said "what if they say X". My initial reaction is to say no because gently caress them if they want to stiff me on like £4k... but the number they might be offering is most likely going to be better than what I'm on now and I'd still be getting out of where I am at least. He said I'm the favourite but they have a backup so chances are if I push too much they'll just go with the other guy.
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So they published a salary and they are offering you below it? Tell them to go gently caress themselves, you entered into this whole process in good faith that the job would pay what it was advertised at.
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Thanks Ants posted:So they published a salary and they are offering you below it? Tell them to go gently caress themselves, you entered into this whole process in good faith that the job would pay what it was advertised at. Well it was "up to" a number. But when the recruiter called me first he said that number and I went in based on that number. I assumed he passed that on because there was never a conversation about salary in any of the interviews or after that. I don't know if he was passing the message onto me or if this was just him saying it, but he said something like they can't offer me the full amount on principle because they have people there already on that amount and they have more experience/are better than me.
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At least you have learnt to never trust a recruiter. They are there to introduce you only, and anything else than that is suspect. Always verify information, especially something as vital as money.
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So it sounds like they brought in "Mr. Cidr" to the interview to gently caress with you and justify paying you less. Tell them the number you want and if they won't meet it, then they don't value you anyway.
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Yeah combined with that interview technique and being dicks on salary, most likely in collaboration with the recruiter, I'd tell them to shove it if you have the luxury of doing so.
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Sickening posted:I was both in the US army and in Commo, so it doesn't surprise me how hosed up things still are. I always say it's easier to teach people prison life than technical skills, given that all of us managed to start working here with no prison experience it is obviously true... It's a similar principle I guess, people think prison experience is vitally important for some unknown reason. Bonzo posted:So it sounds like they brought in "Mr. Cidr" to the interview to gently caress with you and justify paying you less. Tell them the number you want and if they won't meet it, then they don't value you anyway.
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I don’t know which thread to ask in, come someone posty a linky to a good intro to power shell series? I found one that was good on YouTube but the guy only did two episodes or something
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Unexpected Raw Anime posted:I don’t know which thread to ask in, come someone posty a linky to a good intro to power shell series? I found one that was good on YouTube but the guy only did two episodes or something The powershell thread is here just in case you weren't aware https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3286440, doesn't see a ton of action though. Most people say get started with Powershell in a month of lunches by Don Jones and Jeff Hicks. Jeff Hicks is a good twitter follow https://twitter.com/JeffHicks There's a ton of videos on Pluralsight
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uhhhhahhhhohahhh posted:He said I'm the favourite but they have a backup so chances are if I push too much they'll just go with the other guy. If you're the favorite, they'll pay you the salary you asked for. They don't have a backup.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:If you're the favorite, they'll pay you the salary you asked for. They don't have a backup. I'm also willing to bet they haven't found a backup as well, there's no benefit from telling someone that. If they do and won't come to terms on your salary, you found a company who would rather hire someone in their opinion was worse but they got to save a few bucks.
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Also now you know if you work there they don’t give raises if they’re worried the new guy will come in making as much or more.
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“You wouldn’t want to hire someone who folds when negotiating with vendors, or stakeholders for that matter, would you?”
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With all this recent talk, I'm looking at hopping on the wagon. Applied for a job a month back that was a bit of a stretch for my current skillset. I didn't hear anything so I figured they trashed my app. I heard back from their HR last week and had a quick interview. Nailed that, and they scheduled an interview with two supervisors for this morning. Just wrapped that up, and I'm confident I aced it and feel pretty good that they are going to make an offer. My current job is easy street, got a great team and a good boss but the pay is low. New job comes with a 'Senior' title and will likely be $20k-30k more. I think its going to be much busier though, and the work won't be as exciting as I was thinking based on the job description. I'm not sure what I'll do if they make a competitive offer. 
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Take the money. Don't settle into low paid work where you aren't learning anything because it's easy, one day that job will get automated away from you or the gig-economy VC crowd will come for it.
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You should always assume that your company is just one software purchase away from making your position redundant. Give them a moving target.Thanks Ants posted:one day that job will get automated away from you or the gig-economy VC crowd will come for it. What if Uber, but helpdesk?
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Hughmoris posted:My current job is easy street, got a great team and a good boss but the pay is low. New job comes with a 'Senior' title and will likely be $20k-30k more. I think its going to be much busier though, and the work won't be as exciting as I was thinking based on the job description. Take the new job. I spent the last 3-4 years on "easystreet" with a decent boss, great team, and not demanding job. I don't regret it, but I kinda do. I'm making more money, and feel more fulfilled being busy, and generally am a little happier now.
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Just got a job offer to be a branch engineer for an MSP its a 5$/ 20ish percent raise minimum from the CDS stuff I'm working before. I'm thinking I should take it even if theres more responsibility and I'm moving from a corp it to an MSP (as a W2 employee). 1. Should I take it and 2. has anyone worked for or with GadelNet and if so thoughts, they look pretty good on glassdoor and got good vibes at the interview?
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I don't know all your circumstances, but generally people leave MSP's for Corp IT work, not the other way around. I don't know if that's the right move for you or not. MSP's are a great way to get exposed to a ton of stuff, and learn a ton quickly, but I recommend people absorb all they can in 12 to 24 months and try to get out of there. I'm sure there's some good MSP's out there, but in general I've seen they tend to be not great places to work. I've been a spoiled corp IT guy for my entire career though, so I don't feel like I should make a recommendation one way or another. More responsibility and getting exposed to new technology is a good thing though. Killing yourself 60+ hours a week so the guy that owns the MSP can afford a lake house is not a good thing.
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My inbox is full of all sorts of weird error message emails from Varonis now lol I also picked last night to test if I could mess up the cloud migration tool but pausing and unpausing a bunch and somehow it still worked
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LionYeti posted:Just got a job offer to be a branch engineer for an MSP its a 5$/ 20ish percent raise minimum from the CDS stuff I'm working before. I'm thinking I should take it even if theres more responsibility and I'm moving from a corp it to an MSP (as a W2 employee). 1. Should I take it and 2. has anyone worked for or with GadelNet and if so thoughts, they look pretty good on glassdoor and got good vibes at the interview? Have you ever worked at an MSP before? They're generally awful, and most people just use their time there as a stepping stone for bigger and better less stressful jobs down the line.
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So when I started as manager of the tech support team I had the pleasure of finding out everyone on my teams salary. Our most senior (1.5 years on the team) was hired at 40k, so with the 3% COL he got last year was still under 45k. He jumped ship for an MSP a little bit ago at what I assume was a pretty good pay bump. We’ve since hired one other person at 45k (just before I started) who at this point I would place as the senior on the team as far as troubleshooting and general enthusiasm goes. And another at 50k and another at 45k. I am given pay ranges for hires and I just default to the highest end because why the hell not, it’s not my money. I also found out my coworker sysadmin (who’s been here slightly longer than me, was originally hired as tech support and promoted to sysadmin) was making 50k before they bumped him to 60k with a title change when I was promoted with a salary bump equal to his entire salary. So that makes me think he started at 40k. I haven’t had to fire anyone yet so this poo poo is by far the worst part of the job. I’ve been here 6 years at this point and we always give the usual 3% COL raise along with an annual bonus, and when I’ve brought it up before I’ve been given serious raises (15k for asking and then 50k with an offer letter in hand) so it’s not like they won’t spend money to retain people. I just feel like most of my team should at least be pulling in 10k more each for their talent and there probably isn’t much I can do until they come to me with an offer from another company, or yearly review time. poo poo sucks. Anyone have any recommendations on reading for ‘management’ in general? I try to be hands off unless something serious is going on or I get another manager CCing up the chain about an unresolved issue.
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Unexpected Raw Anime posted:Apparently Fastly expoloded last night, good morning everyone. AWS still appears to be down https://twitter.com/SimpsonsOps/status/1309305492628365313
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Spring Heeled Jack posted:So when I started as manager of the tech support team I had the pleasure of finding out everyone on my teams salary. Our most senior (1.5 years on the team) was hired at 40k, so with the 3% COL he got last year was still under 45k. He jumped ship for an MSP a little bit ago at what I assume was a pretty good pay bump. I really like "The Mission, The Men, and Me" as a general go to on how to be a good leader.
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I really like Rands' stuff https://randsinrepose.com/
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Im hoping this other job comes in or they go up to 65 thousand which would make this almost a no brainer. This MSP is reviewing pretty well on glass door and elsewhere and they're a certified B Corp with pretty good vibes, I've been in call center hell before nothing can hurt me anymore. 65k exempt postion and no schedule in the offer letter 
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LionYeti posted:I've been in call center hell before nothing can hurt me anymore. I mean, I would not tempt the fates, but you do you
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