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Noxville posted:It’s definitely a cake, the idiocy is that biscuits are apparently in the luxury category but cake isn’t. *Chocolate* biscuits are a luxury item. There was actually a reason for this, and for why cakes and plain biscuits aren't, and I remember when I read it I went "Oh right, yeah, I suppose that makes sense" but buggered if I can remember it now or find it again.
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A biscuit goes soft when it's stale, a cake goes hard when it's stale. Biscuits are charged as luxury goods but cakes are not. QI did a thing about it.
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Jun 8, 2021 16:00
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Noxville posted:It’s definitely a cake, the idiocy is that biscuits are apparently in the luxury category but cake isn’t. 'Pringles are more like a cake or a biscuit, because they are manufactured from dough.' In the end it was decided they could avoid paying VAT as long as they were willing to put 'reconstituted potato snack' on the tubes and highlight the 42% potato content in their advertising. Pringles still pay VAT.
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Jun 8, 2021 16:01
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goddamnedtwisto posted:No, I mean when you dial 999 they should be able to send out someone properly trained no matter what - for example it shouldn't have been on Sandford to decide whether the old man needed an ambulance, police, or some theoretical blue-light social/mental health service. Yeah having 1 place you call and THEY make the decisions as to who to send is definitely overdue, but I don't think the police should be doing that unless they start hiring people (like PCSOs) and training them specifically to do that. It shouldn't be the same people who run around trying to stop/investigate crimes because it's a completely different skill set. You can even make this argument to right wing people pretty well - "Police are always underfunded why are they doing things that should be handled by the NHS or PCSOs only?" Legalising weed and a seperate first response structure for mental health and non-emergencies would alleviate more of the police budget than any budget increase a government will ever commit to.
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Jun 8, 2021 16:02
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https://www.bcereviews.org.uk/ Boundary review is up for consultation. I am an idiot and do not understand this poo poo at all, but I fully expect people who do understand it to find out that funnily enough it massively benefits the tories.
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Jun 8, 2021 16:04
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Bobby Deluxe posted:https://www.bcereviews.org.uk/ It benefits them to the point that the Minister for the Opposition might lose his own seat.
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Jun 8, 2021 16:10
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e: ^^^^ So, not at all, then?OwlFancier posted:I think if the legal system makes a distinction between doing all that but "not intending to kill someone" then it is bad, tbh. Can't remember how recklessness fits in
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Jun 8, 2021 16:13
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There is an emergency/out of hours social work team (ie one person). If it's mental health issue they phone for an ambulance anyway, because people react less badly to being asked to get in one of them than a police car. And to section someone you need medical professionals to sign the paperwork.
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Jun 8, 2021 16:15
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It is my opinion that anyone clearly hedging their plea based on how the investigation swings is guilty as gently caress already.
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Jun 8, 2021 16:16
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Bobby Deluxe posted:A biscuit goes soft when it's stale, a cake goes hard when it's stale. Biscuits are charged as luxury goods but cakes are not. QI did a thing about it. Yeah I know, that's what I said. I mean if we want to get technical, there's no actual luxury tax in the way many countries have, we only have VAT, which is charged on every single item *except* some very specific categories (fuel attracts a lower rating although has its own separate duty, childrens clothing, legally-mandated personal protective equipment, books and *most* food are zero-rated). Now I think of it, that's reminded me of the reason that I read (bear in mind this may well be wrong, it was some random blog) - that when VAT was first introduced it was decided, wherever possible, to make it so that most small businesses would have to charge either full VAT or no VAT to ease the admin burden. So *all* childrens clothing, whether Tesco Value or Armani, is zero-rated while all adult-clothing is full-rated - childrens clothing still tended to be sold from specialist retailers in those days, apart from at department stores, which were big enough to have accountants. Similarly most people still bought their bread from small bakeries which happened to sell cakes as a sideline (RIP Powells and your absolutely *amazing* cream doughnuts) so cakes were zero-rated to avoid what would probably be a pretty major administrative burden on businesses that were still mostly doing their accounts with paper and pencil. The biscuits/chocolate biscuits distinction is still an odd one - I suspect it's probably something ridiculous like people were scraping the chocolate off them and reselling it on the black (well milk) market in some 70s equivalent of coin clipping.
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Jun 8, 2021 16:18
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Your Honour I would like to plea "pending"
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Jun 8, 2021 16:18
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https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1402280931583528962
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Jun 8, 2021 16:18
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oh no but she had so much else to live for
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Jun 8, 2021 16:20
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Canceled again by the Woke Telegraph.
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Jun 8, 2021 16:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhZ-ehjuzh4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G44xTr8D_bw
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Jun 8, 2021 16:27
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Imagine the articles that are too
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Jun 8, 2021 16:33
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I can only say this: of all the souls I have encountered in my travels... hers was the most... Pissflaps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_QniGKv4fg
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Jun 8, 2021 16:33
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OwlFancier posted:I think if the legal system makes a distinction between doing all that but "not intending to kill someone" then it is bad, tbh. I get what you're saying but I think that making it as difficult as possible for a state to convict a person of a crime is objectively a good thing. Murder is considered by society as the worst crime, with the harshest punishment, and even the elizabethens who codified what murder was recognised that they should therefore make it one of the absolute hardest things for the crown to prove. Realistically I would expect the corners report to indicate violence demonstrating intent to cause GBH which is an injury with the potential to kill so it's extremely doubtful that in this case there will be a defence against murder, but it's absolutely right that his legal counsel should advice him to wait in pleading until the crown has fully presented their case.
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Jun 8, 2021 16:38
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imagine being such a massive oval office that you get sacked by the telegraph.
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Jun 8, 2021 16:45
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Murder is considered by society as the worst crime, with the harshest punishment, and even the elizabethens who codified what murder was recognised that they should therefore make it one of the absolute hardest things for the crown to prove. The case with Derek Bentley would have been nowhere near the issue that it was if he'd been sent down for murder, life sentence with a minimum of 30 years or whatever, and then appealed a few years later and the charges were struck or reduced to manslaughter on appeal. The fault wasn't just that the prosecution were applying constructive malice incorrectly, it's that you can't do appeals or takebacks with capital punishment. Which is probably the best practical argument against it, because you either end up with poo poo like people being kept on death row for decades or you go straight to the rope and then oops new details surface a few years later.
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Jun 8, 2021 17:03
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Jedit posted:The long and short of it is that Couzens almost certainly did intend to kill Sarah Everard. He's just waiting to see if they can prove it. you can get rid of the "almost" there tbh once she's in the car he knows there's no way he can let her go and there's only one way it's going to go
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Jun 8, 2021 17:10
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Time for her to shop her transphobia to the Guardian.
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Jun 8, 2021 18:07
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bessantj posted:Time for her to shop her transphobia to the Guardian. IIRC, she already burnt her bridges there. Burchill's been hired and fired by a frankly impressive number of media organisations through the years. On another note, this is an excellent and extremely grim long read, starring one of the most destructive hidden villains of British mental healthcare: https://twitter.com/xtophercook/status/1402141401584971776?s=21 Absolutely worth reading through, provided you're willing to stomach the contents.
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Jun 8, 2021 18:23
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I'm trying to imagine this article that's too edgy for the Telegraph. Waitrose Wine Isn't Really That Good I Donated To A Food Bank And It Felt Good (But I Won't Do It Again) Don't Evict Your Tenants Right Away (They Can Watch for Leaks During Lockdown)
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Jun 8, 2021 18:24
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Jedit posted:It benefits them to the point that the Minister for the Opposition might lose his own seat. Less so than the previous review iirc between no longer cutting the House to 600 seats and the whole Tory Red Wall thing aka we already lost those seats.
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Jun 8, 2021 18:32
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Darth Walrus posted:IIRC, she already burnt her bridges there. Burchill's been hired and fired by a frankly impressive number of media organisations through the years. Amazing, Daily Stormer it is then. Here's what I think is a decent call on LBC (I know, I know). A young man talks about the Ollie Robinson stuff, saying that he himself was racist but now isn't and would like to see people talk about their journey away from racism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx2IeOgnGSc
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Jun 8, 2021 18:32
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why put headphones on an egg?
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Jun 8, 2021 19:25
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So if someone were, in Minecraft, happen to know where Poor Persecuted Minority Geoff Norcott was going to be filming something on a roof, and - again in Minecraft - that someone happened to have access to a roof overlooking where Norcott was no doubt going to be using a national television show to complain about how he's being silenced... what - in Minecraft - should that someone do?
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Jun 8, 2021 19:49
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Jun 8, 2021 19:54
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The phrasing that ends "Which I've done splendidly anyway" is positively Trumpian lmao
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Jun 8, 2021 19:59
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goddamnedtwisto posted:So if someone were, in Minecraft, happen to know where Poor Persecuted Minority Geoff Norcott was going to be filming something on a roof, and - again in Minecraft - that someone happened to have access to a roof overlooking where Norcott was no doubt going to be using a national television show to complain about how he's being silenced... what - in Minecraft - should that someone do? So firstly you want to get yourself some buckets of lava...
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Jun 8, 2021 20:01
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The meme has actually evolved now because the FBI cottoned on to the "in Minecraft" meme and so now people say "in Roblox" to avoid the content sensor.
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Jun 8, 2021 20:11
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Julio Cruz posted:you can get rid of the "almost" there tbh She died of stangulation. I mean it's possible she tripped and he simply caught her round the neck to steady her and whoops! she died. Do we know how he kidnapped her? There's been nothing to suggest he knew her and women do not get in cars with random men. Somehow it's even more horrifying to think that he may have used his police ID to get her into the car. Lady Demelza fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jun 8, 2021 |
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Jun 8, 2021 20:11
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PawParole posted:if you know how hellworld works, you’d know that Gorgeous Georgie will be the next pm after Brexit Day. It’s already written in the stars. https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1402205080091308040 FACE 2 BLOODSHED COWARDS!
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Jun 8, 2021 20:30
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goddamnedtwisto posted:So if someone were, in Minecraft, happen to know where Poor Persecuted Minority Geoff Norcott was going to be filming something on a roof, and - again in Minecraft - that someone happened to have access to a roof overlooking where Norcott was no doubt going to be using a national television show to complain about how he's being silenced... what - in Minecraft - should that someone do? Use redstone to build a projector and project stuff onto the buildings behind him. In minecraft. Bonuses if you can get someone in an opposite building to do it as well so they can't just crop it out.
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Jun 8, 2021 20:32
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Another option is to play copyrighted music that he might not want to spend money licensing so the audio is bollocks.
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Jun 8, 2021 20:38
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Or this https://twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/1400554145564614662 bonus if you can bean him with a rotocock
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Jun 8, 2021 20:39
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It's Geoff Norcott so I assume that'll be the case anyway.
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Jun 8, 2021 20:40
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If you've got a few weeks and access to the roof, go up every day at roughly the time of the filming, throw a bunch of birdseed over the roof and clap a clapperboard.
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Jun 8, 2021 20:42
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So George Galloway is a socialist friend of the Muslims again, just a few weeks ago he said a man of Pakistani origin was less of a scot than him because he wasn't a celt. This while hanging out with Tory landowners dressed like he was going to shoot Grouse.
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