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Kosumo posted:Now, to ask other people to give you money to do something you are clearly not able to do, and to profit from that, is very plainly an exceptional scummy thing to do. Oh yeah, that's the magic of Star Citizen. The clownish incompetence of its development can get lost in the scumminess of its business model, and the scumminess of its business model can be forgotten in the chaos of the clownish incompetence of its development. ...and just when you think you might be able to keep track of both of those things, you also have to deal with a flotilla of shell companies.
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Can you imagine hiring Roberts to: Plan a wedding Organise a rock concert Run a care home Build a real space rocket Oversee vaccine production Work in air traffic control Just thank your gods that he ended up in the relatively low damage arena of computer games.
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Image hiring him to water your indoor plants while you where away.
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Jun 9, 2021 07:14
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William Bear posted:Thinking about it more, the more SC gets delayed, the more it risks being overtaken not just in graphics, but in depth of simulation as well. Gravity_Storm posted:Can you imagine hiring Roberts to: I think realistically Roberts would have been more likely to become some small town politician where he could bumble his way through a pedestrian speech while waving his hands around and thinking people respected him.
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Jun 9, 2021 07:18
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Gravity_Storm posted:Can you imagine hiring Roberts to: No need to imagine that in AU. The privatized with Federal Government oversight retirement homes here were Covid infested death traps with endless investigations into why the poor old chaps were dying malnourished, of remediable ailments and general abuse of all sorts by unqualified and underpaid staff. All the while Instagram was flooded with selfies of the tanned Porsche driving owners on chopper trips in Monaco. The Royal Commission report is now hidden safely in a sub-sub-sub basement filing cabinet and hundreds of millions more public funds allocated to private companies to "fix" it.
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caughtupwiththethread.gif New Trip Report: My son caught his eye on subnautica and begged me to play the game with him. Begrudgingly I booted the game up and spent nary the first 3 hours completely lost and just did exploring. We're 10 hours in now. The story did slowly unfold, hell I didn't even realize the game had a story. Now that we're in deep, I'm not going to write any spoilers. I can fairly say this game is a sleeper hit. Star Citizen continues to lack rewards for players for doing stuff. Instead, the reward comes from the cash shop as an instant dopamine injection of spaceship through spending money. A slow burn survival / explorer game like subnautica rewards its players with making smart choices during moment to moment gameplay, exploration, base building, spending and accumulating resources where the game strikes a good balance. I would love Elite to go down a similar vein, but its potentially limited by the vision of Frontier's management. At this point Elite doesn't seem like it knows what it wants to be aside to continue to exist as a space-trader / exploration game with some combat at the side. While Star Citizen continues to be a cult following with a sandbox to evaluate the aftermath of bad spending habits. That's all for this months trip report. Stay tuned!
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Gravity_Storm posted:Can you imagine hiring Roberts to: Yeah, if he went into medicine he'd be Elizabeth Holmes. Or if he went into rock concert organizing, he'd be Billy McFarland.
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Nalin posted:All those things just aren't relevant anymore. Just install and play bro. Remember to press F on everything. Thanks bro. People in the thread were literally just talking about a random text file filling gigs of data logging every single thing that happened on the server. Maybe they fixed that particular issue, but I trust CIG software about as much as a free nude desktop assistant.
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Kosumo posted:Image hiring him to water your indoor plants while you where away.
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Does anyone have the chart showing SC's Dev cycle and progress versus console generations, CPU/GPU generations, major game engine generations...
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Jun 9, 2021 09:03
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no_recall posted:caughtupwiththethread.gif Subnautica is amazing, one of the best games I've played in the last 5 years. But I don't know if it's a sleeper, it's pretty widely acclaimed at this point
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Shazback posted:Does anyone have the chart showing SC's Dev cycle and progress versus console generations, CPU/GPU generations, major game engine generations... Close 
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no_recall posted:subnautica [...] this game is a sleeper hit It's pretty wildly acclaimed, and was successful enough that people are playing the sequel right now. Iirc, it's one of the games whose giveaway caused one of the biggest bumps in EGS numbers (though probably an order of magnitude behind GTA5).
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Dwesa posted:You would arrive home to find new gold-plated planters (he would charge you for them, of course) with dead dried plants because CR was too busy envisioning complex contraptions that would automatically water your plants (something solved by someone else years ago in a much simpler manner than envisioned). You forgot that also all the clothes in you wardrobe would be wet for some reason. And you had to pay him before you went away. Also, no refunds! *And he looked through all you draws and does your stash of drugs. 
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trucutru posted:But Nintendo was founded in 1889 so it took them almost a century to develop that. Everyone knows the first 90 years you only build up your team 
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Bofast posted:How can they be overtaken in depth of simulation when they were never in the top 100 in the first place? A fair point. It would be more accurate to say that the depth of simulation CIG promises is going to be overtaken in real life. Where's that video that was posted earlier that was a Unreal Engine demo of some guy flying around in the Millennium Falcon and walking around inside it?
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Jun 9, 2021 14:06
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FishMcCool posted:It's pretty wildly acclaimed, and was successful enough that people are playing the sequel right now. Iirc, it's one of the games whose giveaway caused one of the biggest bumps in EGS numbers (though probably an order of magnitude behind GTA5). Below Zero is cool and fun but maaaan it shows that they changed writers like oof. I kinda wish they'd make a sequel with a larger map and a way more survival focused sandbox mode.
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Is there a handy phrase to describe the disinclination to believe something is a scam simply based on the ever-increasing audaciousness and obviousness of the scam? Like, "It can't be a scam, because if it were a scam it would be the biggest scam in the history of the videogames industry, and what are the odds of that?" "It can't be a scam, because if it were a scam they wouldn't be so bad at making it not look like a scam."? I keep thinking of "sunk cost" and "Occam's razor" but those aren't quite it. What do you call the tendency to believe a lie simply because it's such a big and obvious lie that you can't believe someone would actually have the balls to lie about it? Besides "The Republican Party"
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Imagined posted:Is there a handy phrase to describe the disinclination to believe something is a scam simply based on the ever-increasing audaciousness and obviousness of the scam? Like, "It can't be a scam, because if it were a scam it would be the biggest scam in the history of the videogames industry, and what are the odds of that?" "It can't be a scam, because if it were a scam they wouldn't be so bad at making it not look like a scam."? I keep thinking of "sunk cost" and "Occam's razor" but those aren't quite it. What do you call the tendency to believe a lie simply because it's such a big and obvious lie that you can't believe someone would actually have the balls to lie about it? Besides "The Republican Party" isn't that plain old cognitive dissonance?
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I've heard it called The Big Lie. Cognitive dissonance is what you feel when you hold multiple contradictory opinions, not really the same
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Jun 9, 2021 14:52
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Spatial posted:I've heard it called The Big Lie. Oh wow, that's it. Wikipedia posted:The German expression was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf, to describe the use of a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously."
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Imagined posted:Is there a handy phrase to describe the disinclination to believe something is a scam simply based on the ever-increasing audaciousness and obviousness of the scam? Like, "It can't be a scam, because if it were a scam it would be the biggest scam in the history of the videogames industry, and what are the odds of that?" "It can't be a scam, because if it were a scam they wouldn't be so bad at making it not look like a scam."? I keep thinking of "sunk cost" and "Occam's razor" but those aren't quite it. What do you call the tendency to believe a lie simply because it's such a big and obvious lie that you can't believe someone would actually have the balls to lie about it? Besides "The Republican Party" It is called goodthink, and is a practice all good citizens adhere to.
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Sarsapariller posted:Subnautica is amazing, one of the best games I've played in the last 5 years. But I don't know if it's a sleeper, it's pretty widely acclaimed at this point I think I get what they're saying, though. I've bounced off of Subnautica 4 times now, all within the first hour of gameplay. I know there is a ton more to it, but gathering those first scraps has made me lose interest.
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I hate to admit I fall into the goon stereotype of thalassophobia but I totally noped out as soon as I got glimpses of what was going on in the really deep, dark areas of Subnautica.
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Outer Wilds is totally the game for anyone who loves exploration, and dying horribly in space. There's no inventory management or resource hunting. It is a pure treasure hunt that is also a nightmare for half the runtime.
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:I think I get what they're saying, though. I've bounced off of Subnautica 4 times now, all within the first hour of gameplay. I know there is a ton more to it, but gathering those first scraps has made me lose interest. My first attempt I bounced off hard. My second one I turned off the food/water meters and it felt a lot better.
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Tippis posted:Close giving me memories of the kickstarter days where some citizens were falling over themselves trying to build a computer that could even run the game, with the most expensive builds still not being quite enough for all the fidelity, others just started saving up for an eventual release. Nowadays even a baby's ipad could theoretically run star citizen but the hardware isnt the problem anymore its just their lovely code can barely function on anything
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BiggestOrangeTree posted:Everyone knows the first 90 years you only build up your team The first step in developing any real videogame is instituting a breeding program. A few generations from now we'll have some truly capable programmers on our hands.
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New Star Marine trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASzOzrB-a9E
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Imagined posted:Is there a handy phrase to describe the disinclination to believe something is a scam simply based on the ever-increasing audaciousness and obviousness of the scam? Like, "It can't be a scam, because if it were a scam it would be the biggest scam in the history of the videogames industry, and what are the odds of that?" "It can't be a scam, because if it were a scam they wouldn't be so bad at making it not look like a scam."? I keep thinking of "sunk cost" and "Occam's razor" but those aren't quite it. What do you call the tendency to believe a lie simply because it's such a big and obvious lie that you can't believe someone would actually have the balls to lie about it? Besides "The Republican Party" Crobert's Rub
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Daztek posted:New Star Marine trailer almost 3x as many players as a fuckin SC server lol
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Daztek posted:New Star Marine trailer I was skeptical of a game of operators operating in the future climate wars, but then this trailer had a guy jump out of a jet to fire a bazooka at another jet, so.
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dieselfruit posted:I was skeptical of a game of operators operating in the future climate wars, but then this trailer had a guy jump out of a jet to fire a bazooka at another jet, so. such fanservice, smh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-wFI9vTqto
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:I think I get what they're saying, though. I've bounced off of Subnautica 4 times now, all within the first hour of gameplay. I know there is a ton more to it, but gathering those first scraps has made me lose interest. That's true, I bounced off the first 2 times I tried it as well. I think the first hour of it feels like you're about to play an asset-flip Unity survival game, which is the farthest thing from a game I have any interest in. But where those games usually end their tech tree right around the "stone axe -> iron axe -> magic-ore axe" level, Subnautica not only keeps going, but every new level of craftable stuff is cool and visually distinct, requires challenging resources at the edge of your capability, and expands your exploration options further and further into more and more exotic and dangerous areas. Plus for a lot of them you only end up needing to make one, so they feel a lot more like a Metroid power-up than an expendable, and your character very quickly accumulates a lot of tools. It does a great job of tying story mysteries into game progression, too- sometimes you want to get that next tech upgrade because it'll make life easier, but a lot of the time you just want to see what happened.
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Daztek posted:New Star Marine trailer Glad this trailer had a scene that is an accurate representation of how every max player count game will go  ToW coming when?
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Rotten Red Rod posted:
Look you filthy fudster, we've been over this - Theatre of Dreams.txt was never meant to be actually released, it was merely a tool Sean Tracey's team threw together one evening over pizza to evaluate core persistent universe functionality and stress test bandwidth and latency. Anyone who says otherwise has clearly not been paying attention. PS in breaking news, we're at war with Eastasia this week and always have been
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Sarsapariller posted:Subnautica is amazing, one of the best games I've played in the last 5 years. But I don't know if it's a sleeper, it's pretty widely acclaimed at this point Maybe it WAS a sleeper in the sense that it far exceeded expectations as far as its success. But yeah it's a big thing now. LASER BEAM DREAM posted:I think I get what they're saying, though. I've bounced off of Subnautica 4 times now, all within the first hour of gameplay. I know there is a ton more to it, but gathering those first scraps has made me lose interest. Like someone else said I strongly recommend playing in freedom mode or whatever it's called where you don't have to worry about eating and drinking and can just look around for cool stuff and build things. Doing busywork to keep meters high is crap gameplay imo, the sense of discovery is the good stuff. Daztek posted:New Star Marine trailer Already more entertaining than anything I've seen from the last ten years of Star Citizen development
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Play posted:Maybe it WAS a sleeper in the sense that it far exceeded expectations as far as its success. But yeah it's a big thing now. The definition of sleeper hit is something that becomes a huge success over a long period of time through word of mouth instead of studio promotion, which I think nails Subnautica. Streamers like Markiplier first brought it major attention during its early access rather than traditional advertising.
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LostRook posted:The first step in developing any real videogame is instituting a breeding program. A few generations from now we'll have some truly capable programmers on our hands. Turns out the Bene Gesserit were actually just breeding programmers skilled enough to finally make the grand vision of Chris Roberts come true. It took a bit longer than expected, but you can't rush these things.
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