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exmachina
Mar 12, 2006

Look Closer
Early R.S. was obsessed with replacing Latin with a "rational" language see Wilkins and the Real Character. So I can believe that Newton could accurately transcribe his pronouciation.

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Legend has it that Charlemagne, or Big Chuck, worried that linguistic drift would render God unable to understand our prayers.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/TravelLeisure/status/1401344098414510081

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
good

Firstscion
Apr 11, 2008

Born Lucky

Yeah thats what you do after a siege.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Also cool. What a place to rob. Me, I've had a fancy for the Vatican catacombs since I was a child.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay


when dudes are rockin’

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

birdstrike posted:



when dudes are rockin’

cspam addressing the mods

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


The painting is Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks to Sultan Mehmed

Here is the reply


quote:

Zaporozhian Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan!

O sultan, Turkish devil and damned devil's kith and kin, secretary to Lucifer himself. What the devil kind of knight are thou, that canst not slay a hedgehog with your naked arse? The devil shits, and your army eats. Thou shalt not, thou son of a whore, make subjects of Christian sons. We have no fear of your army; by land and by sea we will battle with thee. gently caress thy mother.

Thou Babylonian scullion, Macedonian wheelwright, brewer of Jerusalem, goat-fucker of Alexandria, swineherd of Greater and Lesser Egypt, pig of Armenia, Podolian thief, catamite of Tartary, hangman of Kamyanets, and fool of all the world and underworld, an idiot before God, grandson of the Serpent, and the crick in our dick. Pig's snout, mare's arse, slaughterhouse cur, unchristened brow. Screw thine own mother!

So the Zaporozhians declare, you lowlife. You won't even be herding pigs for the Christians. Now we'll conclude, for we don't know the date and don't own a calendar; the moon's in the sky, the year with the Lord. The day's the same over here as it is over there; for this kiss our arse!

— Koshovyi otaman Ivan Sirko, with the whole Zaporozhian Host


indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I love poo poo like that

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/ArtifactsHub/status/1402802716414398470

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
I've read that Zaporozhian letter innumerable times yet have only just realized that the ability to kill a hedgehog with ones unclad buttocks was apparently considered a basic skill by the members of the Zaporozhian host.

Weka has issued a correction as of 04:40 on Jun 11, 2021

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Zaporozhian Cossack: Tsar, can we have gom jabbar?
Tsar: We have gom jabbar at home.

at home:

Travv0
Jan 26, 2013

Ghostlight posted:

Zaporozhian Cossack: Tsar, can we have gom jabbar?
Tsar: We have gom jabbar at home.

at home:


lol i get it

a fatguy baldspot
Aug 29, 2018

Ornamental Dingbat
Feb 26, 2007

Glass brain

https://twitter.com/justinboldaji/status/1403342434310844420?s=20

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Victory Position posted:

St. Augustine? never heard of it

my favorite little bit in the St Augustine Starfort History Museum (it's rad, everyone who makes the mistake of being near Florida should go to it) is that when the British? showed up the Spanish garrison's response was "thank loving god, we don't have to be in a lovely florida swamp anymore, we can return to civilization"

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Firstscion posted:

Yeah thats what you do after a siege.

Funny story... Arundel is in the southern part of England, not far from the coast. During the 100 years war, the French would raid southern England in order to steal anything that wasn't nailed down. So the towns appealed to Sir John Arundel to come and defend them, and he promised that he would if they paid him a big sum of money. So they raised a bunch of money and gave it to him, and he moved his army into the towns where they began... stealing anything that wasn't nailed down. Eventually the King of England sent over a bunch of boats so they could ferry the army over to France so they could steal stuff from France. But the winds were wrong and the boats couldn't leave. So, bored, he told his army they could go plunder some local nunneries and kidnap the nuns as sex-slaves. Eventually the winds came back and they set sail for France, taking the women with them. However, when a storm came up, Sir John ordered the women to be thrown overboard to save weight. Unsurprisingly, this wasn't enough to save them, and all 25 ships were lost at sea, with only seven survivors. Sir John Arundel's body was recognized by a fancy ring, which was cut off by some lucky Irishman.

In conclusion, gently caress Arundel.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

GreyjoyBastard posted:

my favorite little bit in the St Augustine Starfort History Museum (it's rad, everyone who makes the mistake of being near Florida should go to it) is that when the British? showed up the Spanish garrison's response was "thank loving god, we don't have to be in a lovely florida swamp anymore, we can return to civilization"

It was almost comical how many time St Augustine got burned down in raids but people still figured it would be a good reason to stick around.

Also other events like the yellow fever epidemic that wiped out 30% of the town's population.

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006



i'm the scolding hot ash

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Charlatan Eschaton
Feb 23, 2018

some cave arts play animations when illuminated by a flickering torch
https://twitter.com/DilettanteryPod/status/1403914753563455492

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

Charlatan Eschaton posted:

some cave arts play animations when illuminated by a flickering torch
https://twitter.com/DilettanteryPod/status/1403914753563455492

since the begining of time, man has been cursed by video exhibitions at art museums...

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Charlatan Eschaton posted:

some cave arts play animations when illuminated by a flickering torch
https://twitter.com/DilettanteryPod/status/1403914753563455492

The herzog film cave of forgotten dreams had some really cool demonstrations of this effect.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/Peter_Nimitz/status/1406528572831932421
https://mobile.twitter.com/Peter_Nimitz/status/1406534097539796992

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/NewYorker/status/1406539686064099331

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/razibkhan/status/1406361696122425353

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://twitter.com/SumerianHittite/status/1406482112010653696?s=19

Didn't realize the reed was shaped like this, though I guess that makes sense

Cromulent_Chill
Apr 6, 2009

I would like to thank all of you for a great thread. I've spent my good Sunday morning and a pot of coffee reading the entire thread and its awesome. Thanks!!

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012


So uhh how did they all die at once...?

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


Slavvy posted:

So uhh how did they all die at once...?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chaeronea_(338_BC)

That's my guess

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




they said love conquered all. they didnt know about phillip

DarkEuphoria
Nov 7, 2012


haunting

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.

twoday posted:

https://twitter.com/SumerianHittite/status/1406482112010653696?s=19

Didn't realize the reed was shaped like this, though I guess that makes sense

Isn't that the back end of a disposable chopstick, like one of the comments say?

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Kassad posted:

Isn't that the back end of a disposable chopstick, like one of the comments say?

Hmm yes but after looking into it it seems that many styli were at least partially squared in form



though there were of course many styles



Seems that all the Twitter cuneiform ones use rectangular ones, I’m guessing they are all writing some particular script that is easier with one of those? :shrug:

https://twitter.com/digirnanna/status/1387581102232068096?s=20

twoday has issued a correction as of 23:14 on Jun 20, 2021

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019


The traditional hoplite infantry was no match for the novel long-speared Macedonian phalanx: the Theban army and its allies broke and fled, but the Sacred Band, although surrounded and overwhelmed, refused to surrender. The Thebans of the Sacred Band held their ground and Plutarch records that all 300 fell where they stood beside their last commander, Theagenes. Their defeat at the battle was a significant victory for Philip, since until then, the Sacred Band was regarded as invincible throughout all of Ancient Greece. Philip II, on encountering the corpses "heaped one upon another", understanding who they were, wept and exclaimed:

shame on him who thinks them shameful

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

CoolCab posted:

“peking” and “bejing” are both transliterations of the same word, separated by a what few hundred years of linguistic drift. we don’t know that eeeee will be pronounced like we do a hundred years from now, I think that’s the justification?

similarly “ye olde” is a modern misunderstanding, it’s a bad transliteration of a letter we no longer use. it was always intended to read like “the old”

this reminds me that the roman alphabet is a better alphabet for Chinese than English lol

edit: if you didn't know, mainland china uses the roman alphabet as their alphabet and it rules. English uses it and you get poo poo like 'through' and 'threw' lmao

exmachina
Mar 12, 2006

Look Closer
Tbf that is because a) words entered before, between and after the vowel shifts and b) the people who wrote Middle English words down really really wanted you to know which were the good, French words and which were the nasty, no good old english words

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exmachina
Mar 12, 2006

Look Closer
That is to say modern spellings of English words tell you far more about etymology than pronunciation

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