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Mind_Taker posted:So Rosen in favor of eliminating the filibuster to pass voting reform but isn’t in favor of eliminating the filibuster to pass legislation like M4A, Green New Deal, minimum wage, etc.? a exception for "just this kind of bill" pretty quickly becomes an exception to all kinds of bills. key is getting the thin edge of the wedge in there, the sky does not fall/good things happen, republicans pledge retaliation, and the momentum continues to carry you to full abolition. its like how "no judicial filibusters EXCEPT for scotus nominees" was always understood to mean "until someone filibusters one the majority wants to pass"
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https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1402677611449524226 Starting to think we need to tar and feather the editorial staff at the NY Post for running a Loyalist magazine. https://twitter.com/tylerpager/status/1402682423201173512 Some actual news. This is a fine start but we really should put our national industrial shoulder to the wheel on a global vaccination effort. Also good that we're springing for the top-shelf brand all the real vaccine connoisseur have for personal use and not some bottom-shelf tub like Moderna. zoux fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Jun 9, 2021 |
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Plus, even if you pass democracy protection and nothing else through a half measure, that makes it that much more likely that in the future the Senate will be in a position to go full measure over the objections of the Manchins and the Sinemas
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Jun 9, 2021 18:46
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1402677611449524226 Wow, and I thought NY Post was republican-leaning. 
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1402677611449524226 why the gently caress should we give a poo poo about the portrait of the queen in an American university.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:why the gently caress should we give a poo poo about the portrait of the queen in an American university. oxford is currently english, but i approve of your enthusiasm for taking the revolutionary war to the land of the oppressors
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Dapper_Swindler posted:why the gently caress should we give a poo poo about the portrait of the queen in an American university. That's the spirit!
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They did vote to remove the portrait so Oxford is pretty much the 51st state already
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haveblue posted:They did vote to remove the portrait so Oxford is pretty much the 51st state already local officials quoted as saying "harumph!" before dropping their weird rear end bland food in shock
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haveblue posted:They did vote to remove the portrait so Oxford is pretty much the 51st state already Does it get two senators though?
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Jun 9, 2021 19:02
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Oxford, welcome to the #Rebellion.
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evilweasel posted:oxford is currently english, but i approve of your enthusiasm for taking the revolutionary war to the land of the oppressors lol. i went to a state school so that explains my lack of knowledge of inbred horror schools. also why does the post care zoux posted:That's the spirit! indeed. drive them into the channel. Morrow posted:We will be greeted as liberators. everyone knows the english will take to the streets to celebrate when their tyranical queen and PM are captured or run over by US tanks. and bald eagles will land on big ben and everyone will cry as the pledge of allegiance is read over 100 times.
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Clumsily pulling down Nelson's Column with a crane before the cheering hordes
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Mind_Taker posted:So Rosen in favor of eliminating the filibuster to pass voting reform but isn’t in favor of eliminating the filibuster to pass legislation like M4A, Green New Deal, minimum wage, etc.? If nothing else it has been obvious since the $15 minimum wage vote since sure Manchin and Sinema got the most flak for it but they weren't the only ones to vote against it. If the filibuster were completely removed many of those same dems would find other reasons to not vote for good things, I'm sure.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:lol. i went to a state school so that explains my lack of knowledge of inbred horror schools. also why does the post care The Queen may have treated a brown skinned woman badly. Therefore, the NY Post loves her.
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Jarmak posted:Despotism is a state of government where the ruler wields absolute power, particularly, but not necessarily, in a cruel way. Despots are, by definition, evil and oppressive. Whatever their impression of themselves may be, they're not morally just by definition. And no, all power does not inherently corrupt. Jarmak posted:Yes, precisely, that's exactly why the libs care so much about preserving institutions and structures that prevent the consolidation of power. Those institutions themselves can be oppressive, though. We're witnessing that right now. "Preventing the consolidation of power" is not tantamount to morally just. Judakel fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Jun 9, 2021 |
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Tibalt posted:Brexit is having some... unintended effects. At least something good came from it. Welcome to the 51st state of America: England. The student becomes the master.
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Tibalt posted:Brexit is having some... unintended effects. In their quest to achieve Brexit's truest form, they discovered that it was Britain itself that they must leave.
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zoux posted:Some actual news. This is a fine start but we really should put our national industrial shoulder to the wheel on a global vaccination effort. Also good that we're springing for the top-shelf brand all the real vaccine connoisseur have for personal use and not some bottom-shelf tub like Moderna. Isn't Moderna basically the 2nd best vaccine and only falls a little short of the best one? Bottom shelf of the western vaccines is probably AstraZeneca while J&J sits in between by being a cool single shot but also might have clotting problems (or at least enough to worry people about it). Or have I missed  ?
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MSB3000 posted:At least something good came from it. Are we going to rename it airstrip one?
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Meatball posted:Are we going to rename it airstrip one? Coca Cola Presents: USA Airstrip 1: Featuring Kid Rock
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Darkrenown posted:Isn't Moderna basically the 2nd best vaccine and only falls a little short of the best one? Bottom shelf of the western vaccines is probably AstraZeneca while J&J sits in between by being a cool single shot but also might have clotting problems (or at least enough to worry people about it). Or have I missed The two mRNA vaccines are basically indistinguishable, but it became trendy to pretend one was the cool vaccine and the other was uncool because people love to make in-groups and out-groups J&J's clotting problems are somewhere in the range between "nonexistent" and "lower risk than a lot of other things we use despite having known for a long time they cause blood clots"
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Eric Cantonese posted:The Queen may have treated a brown skinned woman badly. Therefore, the NY Post loves her.
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haveblue posted:The two mRNA vaccines are basically indistinguishable, but it became trendy to pretend one was the cool vaccine and the other was uncool because people love to make in-groups and out-groups I honestly never got the jokes that Pfizer is the fancy / status vaccine (within the US), given that it accounts for more than half of all vaccines administered here. I know it was always a sort of silly joke and no one meant it seriously, but it doesn't even make sense as a joke.
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FlamingLiberal posted:You joke but all of this weird right-wing love for the Royal Family seems to have started after that They left the royal family for two main reasons, mental health and racism. This made the left in the US take their side, so the right has to automatically take the other side, which in this case is good old 17th century royalism, but owning the libs is more important
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Darkrenown posted:Isn't Moderna basically the 2nd best vaccine and only falls a little short of the best one? Bottom shelf of the western vaccines is probably AstraZeneca while J&J sits in between by being a cool single shot but also might have clotting problems (or at least enough to worry people about it). Or have I missed I was kidding on the square. After the J&J/AZ problems, vaccine uptake in places like Africa - which was already moribund - fell off big, not only because of the over-stating of the potential problems, but the idea that the developed Western countries were sloughing off our reject vaccines on the global south. As far as I know, while the mRNA vaccines seem to be somewhat better at preventing infection, all of them do about the same job of preventing serious disease or death. But the perception, especially in non-European countries, is that the mRNAs are the best and of those, Pfizer is the best. So in that regard, I do think it will make a difference so far as hesitancy.
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alnilam posted:I honestly never got the jokes that Pfizer is the fancy / status vaccine (within the US), given that it accounts for more than half of all vaccines administered here. I know it was always a sort of silly joke and no one meant it seriously, but it doesn't even make sense as a joke. it's objectively the best one (because it is ever so slightly better efficacy in trials than moderna, but most importantly the second shot comes a week earlier so that's a week earlier you can start licking doorknobs again because you're fully vaxxed) (but most importantly because i got it)
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The Pfizer vaccine is chock-full of the finest Zeta-Reticulan gay nanites while Moderna's slop is just half dead bi-curious reptilo-grey hybrid junk DNA.
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I can barely stick a paperclip to the forehead of some Modernoid but my Pfizer infused blood snaps me into metal pipes like I'm full of neodymium.
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evilweasel posted:it's objectively the best one All the Pfizer recipients I know had the same two week delay as the Moderna recipients. Is this really a thing?
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ILL Machina posted:All the Pfizer recipients I know had the same two week delay as the Moderna recipients. Is this really a thing? Pfizer originally recommended the second shot at 21 days while Moderna recommended theirs at 28.
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I have to say, Adams's apartment looks... a lot like something you would rent to have a token NYC address to run for mayor, and not very much like something a NYC mayoral candidate would live in.
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Judakel posted:Despots are, by definition, evil and oppressive. Whatever their impression of themselves may be, they're not morally just by definition. And no, all power does not inherently corrupt. You're just flat not right about what words mean. The despotism refers to to the consolidation of all power in a single ruler. The colloquial use of it in the more generically "oppressive government"-sense is an evolution of the general sense (particular during the enlightenment and through the European revolutions) that a form a government in which all power is vested in the ruler is inherently evil and oppressive. So your contention that the ruler overuling the rule of law is not despotism because despotism means oppressive and such action isn't oppressive is fantastically and impressively wrong on multiple levels. Despotism only carries a negative connotation because of the very exact liberal values you're specifically rejecting.
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evilweasel posted:the delay between shots is 4 weeks for moderna, 3 for pfizer (because that's what they tested in their trials) The nurses told me to come back for my second shot 14 days after the first one 
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