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Re:Symbaroum How the hell can the designers have awareness of how easily the system breaks and not choose to switch it for a tried and tested ruleset (even D20) and just mumbling that the GM should figure it out? I swear this is the only hobby where lazy design is sometimes a massive improvement over whatever the inspired auteur has in mind. On the off chance that they read this thread: building a good and coherent setting is hard enough my dudes, ain't no shame in not designing a bespoke system to go along with it. Also your resources are limited, a badly designed system takes time you could've spent better on writing and planning of the setting.
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90s Cringe Rock posted:Cannot wait for whatever the changeling revelation is gonna be. It gets worse. There's nothing (RAW anyways) to stop your Flaming Servants from taking the Ritualist ability once they get 10xp, and using that to summon their own Flaming Servants, and so on. Your other pets can do it to, it's just pets all the way down. Each time your charatcer-party gets 10xp it effectively doubles in size. There's no need to have a Mystical tradition to buy it, so basically everyone in the party can do this. You just get more corruption if said ritual is not a part of your tradition. Sir Meat Shield could have his own fire elemental pal. But yeah, the Changeling reveal is still worse I think. Ritual pets break the game, but the Changeling revelation can possibly destroy a character you've been playing for years, depending on how things shake out. Hipster Occultist fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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Josef bugman posted:I wish that we could see into a world where either a) the Gracchi won or b) The Gallic Tribes were able to get together and kick the poo poo out of the Romans. I try to look for places where a small change or a trick of fate could have changed everything. It's part of why political assassinations are so fascinating--if John Wilkes booth or Gavrilo Princip had missed, or if Qin Shi Huang's sleeve hadn't torn, we'd be living in a very different world. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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Some kind of conflict on the scale of World War I is probably still inevitable even if Princip fucks it up. Technology and politics had advanced so far beyond attitudes regarding what those things meant that a colossal clusterfuck was bound to happen eventually. No World War I means no Treaty of Versailles though, and that's a fascinating what-if.
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Hipster Occultist posted:It gets worse. There's nothing (RAW anyways) to stop your Flaming Servants from taking the Ritualist ability once they get 10xp, and using that to summon their own Flaming Servants, and so on. Your other pets can do it to, it's just pets all the way down. Each time your charatcer-party gets 10xp it effectively doubles in size. There's no need to have a Mystical tradition to buy it, so basically everyone in the party can do this. You just get more corruption if said ritual is not a part of your tradition. Sir Meat Shield could have his own fire elemental pal.
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Even loving John Hinkly firing differently would've changed the world in a massive way. It is amazing the difference that millimetres can have.
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Froghammer posted:Some kind of conflict on the scale of World War I is probably still inevitable even if Princip fucks it up. Technology and politics had advanced so far beyond attitudes regarding what those things meant that a colossal clusterfuck was bound to happen eventually. Feels like a treaty of that kind would be inevitable in the long run. Especially when someone pulls off something so evil it makes everyone go "Wait a loving second here". That's something I feel Battletech does well. It takes an absolute slaughter of a whole world from nuclear bombardment to make everyone realize they've gone overboard with how they fight and need to tone it down a little.
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Froghammer posted:Some kind of conflict on the scale of World War I is probably still inevitable even if Princip fucks it up. Technology and politics had advanced so far beyond attitudes regarding what those things meant that a colossal clusterfuck was bound to happen eventually.
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By popular demand posted:Even loving John Hinkly firing differently would've changed the world in a massive way. Halloween Jack posted:Agreed! That reminds me of the kind of thing people are always saying about Napoleon--it's pointless to ask what-if Napoleon had been a sincere socialist revolutionary, because he wasn't that guy. But fighting Toussaint Louverture, that could have possibly gone the other way. Or, considering that Napoleon led from the front on a number of occasion, he could have caught a musket ball between the eyes and some random conscript would have changed world history. (I do think that there are some individuals who are positioned such that a change in their personal attitudes or fortunes can have a massive impact, and Napoleon was one of them. Europe would have continued to modernize, but someone else wouldn't have just slotted in and created the Code Napoléon.) Terrible Opinions fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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Jun 11, 2021 16:08
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A dark and terrible timeline where the English captured Joan of Arc and executed has a witch.
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My father has won several trophies in bullseye pistol shooting. He could have saved the world if he spent an afternoon with John Hinckley
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Halloween Jack posted:Well, that's the thing about most alternate histories...they require people to be somebody they weren't, or entire interest groups and societies to be something they weren't. Eric Flint's Rivers of War does something like this. Its "break point" is "What if Sam Houston hadn't been badly wounded at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend?"
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This all reminds me. I still have a review of Wild Talents: Progenitor part-done. In Wild Talents, they have this system for measuring realism, and the "historical determinism" meter is Red, because Marxism is apparently teleological. God drat it, Hite, you keep finding ways to piss me off.
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MonsterEnvy posted:One of my favored alternate looks into History would be if Thorfinn Karlsefni's Vinland Colony had worked out. Good chance the New World would look utterly different. Halloween Jack posted:This all reminds me. I still have a review of Wild Talents: Progenitor part-done. In Wild Talents, they have this system for measuring realism, and the "historical determinism" meter is Red, because Marxism is apparently teleological. God drat it, Hite, you keep finding ways to piss me off.
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There was a limited comic series called Stray Bullets which did a what if with marvel universe heroes, I don't remember anything other than Bruce Banner becomes Spider-Man somehow. Some of you may enjoy it.
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Nessus posted:How do you mean? This sounds like Hite recognizing the Immortal Science, if anything. quote:For the last two centuries at least, historians have argued back and forth between the Great Man version of history and the Great Momentum version. In the Great Man version, individual “heroes on horseback”—Napoleon, Luther, Hitler—forge nations, overturn religions, and start wars. In the Great Momentum theory, events happen because of large-scale social and economic factors beyond the control of any individual. If Napoleon had drowned as a baby, some other general would have created the mass army of columns, exported French revolutions to Germany, and modernized European law codes; these were natural outgrowths of military technology, ideological psychology, and middle-class mass literacy.
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Halloween Jack posted:My father has won several trophies in bullseye pistol shooting. He could have saved the world if he spent an afternoon with John Hinckley Unfortunately, Reagan was just a mouthpiece for the moneyed interests whose charity he had always lived on. If not him, they would have found another performer.
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Hipster Occultist posted:Anyways, onto our five characters. So pretty much the same crew you'd use to break WHFRP?
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The Lone Badger posted:So pretty much the same crew you'd use to break WHFRP? Turns out 'heavily armored hero' 'tough as hell hero' 'healer and face' 'scout/rogue' are all useful character archetypes in a lot of dark fantasy. Though WHFRP didn't have 'master of all pokemons.' You gotta look to Double Cross for that (and it's a tricky but extremely powerful archetype there).
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Halloween Jack posted:The attitude he's describing is more like what they call "Whig history." The inevitable march of history onwards and upwards with bumps in the road, though, would have been more a Soviet-hagiography thing, at best
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The Lone Badger posted:So pretty much the same crew you'd use to break WHFRP? I can't speak for 4th edition, but 2nd ed WHFRP was a lot more balanced than this. Our two melee fighters are immune to physical damage (even if they roll bad on their armor rolls) from a wide swath of the bestiary. The Ogre usually one shots (sometimes it'll take two if he rolls bad or you're fighting an elite enemy) his foes, while our Meat Sheild gets to just take all the damage for one hero and gets free attacks he can use to play keep away with. Meanwhile one loving character is literally another party.  Undead don't acrue corruption, so Ash can learn any spell or ritual he desires (mostly). If this group can't immediately steamroll an encounter, the Priest is there to patch them all up/provide additional armour. In an odd callback to WHFRP Shallyans, eventually she'll be picking up an anti-undead/abomination laser. Once our Archer ignores armor and gets a good bow, she'll be shooting 3 arrows a round, with +2 to hit and doing 1d10+1d8+2 per arrow.Toss in Alchemy and Artifacts, and poo poo gets even crazier. Keep in mind, the very first adventure book in this series calls for characters skilled with combat, with at least 50xp. These all have 60 from taking two Burdens each. There's still room to grow! Hipster Occultist fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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Nessus posted:I dunno, I've seen that quoted to me pretty much on point by people who seemed to come from a Marxist background, much Marxier than I. Like people saying that substantial details about the exact conduct and course of WW2 were specifically and explicitly inevitable based on industrialization decisions made by Krupp 50 years prior. (As opposed to "these factors meant that yes, there would have almost certainly been a major European industrial war at some point" - different level of granularity here.) There are teleological strains of Marxism, but they were and are considered pretty Soviet-aligned. After all, if you want to propose an Immortal Science that leads inevitably from class war to communism, the USSR looked like your best bet (and it certainly benefited them to present themselves as the only and natural outcome of Marxism, for quelling Marxist dissent with the USSR). He's also conflating a lot here: There are different, very different kinds of historical analysis that aren't Great Men of History analyses, and many of them would disagree. You could be an idealist who sees the movement of ideologies as the fundamental operation, or a materialist who looks at economics and class interests and eschews culture, or anything in between. However... 'the appearance of superpowers doesn't change society' isn't materialist historical determinism, it's the idea that history is teleological and impossible to disrupt. Having superpowers will hugely change things because it's created an entirely new class of people and entirely new disruptions to the systems of production and coercion that shape society. For example, there's an argument that the development of synthetic rubber and other materials by the USA during WWII was a major part of why the American empire developed differently from the British - pointillist arrangements of air bases for logistics and power projection, rather than colonies for resource extraction (and later, neocolonialism happened to cover materials for the computer revolution that couldn't be synthesized). This is just a simplistic sketch of the idea, understand, but imagine you had a superpower that could synthesize materials on the mass scale without colonial extraction in the 1800s. That would change history, not because of Great Men, but because of the discovery of a new technology (who just happens to have a name). Thinking materially, and endorsing historical materialism, doesn't mean history is teleological.
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Halloween Jack posted:Well, that's the thing about most alternate histories...they require people to be somebody they weren't, or entire interest groups and societies to be something they weren't. See all the Gracchi needed was something to go a little bit more their way, but I take your point. I do wish that we could see the alternative worlds, but that is just me wondering about stuff. It's why I like the ByzLP from our forums. It creates a way weirder but also more fun world to live in.
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I forget the name of the book but a historian laid out that if WWI didn't happen, most of the nations in Europe were on a collision course to what domestically happened to them during and after the war anyways. Germany was on the road to a socialist/communist uprising, Russia was on the road to collapse despite its economic and industrial growth, France was France and would have had some type of revolution due to Revanchist movements and the extreme right and left, and the UK was on the verge of a civil war over the Irish Question. It's a strong theory and it kind of builds on the sentiment that the governments pushed for war because they thought it would be a quick, nationalistic diversion or give them what they needed to overcome their shortcomings by taking colonies or territories. It was all coming to a head, it all just went off at once and things like the Irish Question were answered due to the inability of the UK to fully deal with it at that time due to the war. I think the biggest winners of WWI not happening are probably Portugal, it was a disaster, and Spain, their economy won't collapse under wartime speculation, and the biggest loser is the US, who doesn't get to profit off of the war. Either way, something would have happened sooner or later, whether localized or on a larger scale. RocknRollaAyatollah fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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Hipster Occultist posted:Symbaroum: The Throne of Thorns, Character Creation  Jesus Christ, Hipster Occultist, these people have families!
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Hipster Occultist posted:Symbaroum: The Throne of Thorns, Character Creation Apologies if I am incorrect but unless I am mistaken. It would appear that your Pyromancer doesn't meet the requirements to be a Pyromancer and have Twin Servant. They need to have the either Tale of Ashes ritual or the Flaming Servant ritual to qualify. You would also require one of it's requirements to be at master level. PG 10 of the Advanced Players Guide "to be eligible for a profession the character must have all the abilities mentioned under Required Abilities, one of them at the master level" Also Ritualist - Adept only lets you know three rituals but your Pyromancer appears to have 4 rituals. psudonym55 fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:I forget the name of the book but a historian laid out that if WWI didn't happen, most of the nations in Europe were on a collision course to what domestically happened to them during and after the war anyways. Germany was on the road to a socialist/communist uprising, Russia was on the road to collapse despite its economic and industrial growth, France was France and would have had some type of revolution due to Revanchist movements and the extreme right and left, and the UK was on the verge of a civil war over the Irish Question. It's a strong theory and it kind of builds on the sentiment that the governments pushed for war because they thought it would be a quick, nationalistic diversion or give them what they needed to overcome their shortcomings by taking colonies or territories. It was all coming to a head, it all just went off at once and things like the Irish Question were answered due to the inability of the UK to fully deal with it at that time due to the war. Also seems like a big part was technological advancements that military experience and tactics hadn't caught up to, hence why you had generals throwing bodies into the meatgrinder for no gain. Might have been even worse given some time to develop even bigger and deadlier toys- and chemical warfare was still standard, too. And the whole practice of secret treaties was apparently a big reason why it got so big and stupid so fast.
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I've been listening to Mike Duncan's Revolutions and he covered the beginnings of WWI just recently. On top of that, the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the resulting power grabs put everyone in a position where they felt like they'd either shown weakness or let their allies down, so everyone came into it thinking that they couldn't afford to back down.Joe Slowboat posted:There are teleological strains of Marxism, but they were and are considered pretty Soviet-aligned. After all, if you want to propose an Immortal Science that leads inevitably from class war to communism, the USSR looked like your best bet (and it certainly benefited them to present themselves as the only and natural outcome of Marxism, for quelling Marxist dissent with the USSR).
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 Update 7: Enemies Everywhen – Centrum (History and Society) One fine night in late November, 1120, William Adelin got the crew of the ship that was to take him and his entourage back to England super drunk. After they set out from Normandy, they decided to overtake William’s dad’s ship, only to crash into a rock and sink. William almost made it, but at the last moment he doubled back to rescue his sister, getting them both killed. William was also the son and only legitimate heir of Henry I of England, and his death sparked an extended civil war called the Anarchy. In the timeline that would eventually become known as Centrum, William never died, and his heirs gave rise to the second greatest power in their world’s history – the Anglo-French Empire. Funnily enough, given the Mongol discourse in the thread, the Mongol invasion kicked off the next phase of the Empire’s history. In this timeline they advanced all the way to the French border, checking Anglo-French in Europe just long enough to force them to look elsewhere for expansion – like, say, a distant continent they learned of through a Norwegian Princess who married into their royal house. Combining the technology the Mongols brought with them, an early scientific revolution sparked by Imperial patronage of natural philosophers, and a desperate need to hold their English and French subjects together by directing their attention elsewhere, the Anglo-French Empire exploded across the world. Imperial society was substantially less technophilic than its Homeline equivalents, slowing down technological process, but by 1902 they’d advanced at least far enough to perform genetic engineering. 1902 was the year the world fell apart. A small war of independence spiraled out of control until a dozen of the world’s greatest cities got nuked and biological warfare killed off billions. The only place to maintain technological civilization was Australia, where a military-technocrat junta that called itself the Centrum seized control and locked down the borders. When they emerged a decade later with biological counteragents to keep them safe, they found a chaotic, violent world that completely horrified them. In response, they resolved to replace it with an ordered and peaceful one, no matter the cost.  But reconstruction requires resources, and though they had a whole world to assimilate, accessing those resources required identifying and securing them, an expensive process. A paper on parachronics published during the quarantine years and forgotten for decades provided on the answer. After an initial period of exploration and trade, the junta, now reorganized into a proper government, took a hands-off approach to inhabited timelines. They were too busy reordering their own world to worry about others. Instead, they mined and cultivated empty worlds to fuel reclamation efforts. Centrum dropped the “the” in 1958, the year they declared global reunification complete, at which point they reevaluated their approach to other timelines. They decided to impose their vision upon other timelines – for their betterment, of course. The average Centran doesn’t care much about history, though. Outside of their soft spot for the classical world, they hold pre-Centrum history in contempt – it led up to the war, after all. Centrum protects and supports its populace, providing food, care, and support of all kinds through the course of their life – but it rigidly controls them, their only opportunity of advancement or improving their situation clawing their way up whatever Service they were assigned to as a teenager. It values human life, going to great effort not to kill anyone unless necessary and offers outtimers the chance to join their society through labor, rigorously enforcing laws that ensure indentureds fully understand the conditions of their contracts – but their contracts last 30 years, they have few rights during and after their “employment” aside from having their children guaranteed citizenship, and those laws don’t apply to prisoners rescued from worse fates in other timelines. It cares for the environment, meticulously restoring the ecosystems the Last War ruined and enforcing strict environmental controls on any timelines Centrans inhabit – and it has no compunction about dumping the abundant nuclear waste its fission plants produce in empty timelines. It allows freedom of speech and religious practice – but those opinions and beliefs cannot be spread or broadcast. It is egalitarian to a degree that shames the most tolerant of Homeline societies and citizens can advance up the social hierarchy without fear of discrimination – but all other cultures have been stamped out so thoroughly that languages other than the local variety of English aren’t spoken outside of the home. Their music is lively and inventive, influenced by a century of borrowed ideas and traditions from other timelines – but their TV loving sucks. To us, it seems like a society of contrast, but to them it makes sense – and making sense is their whole thing. To understand Centran society, you have to understand the three traumas that shaped it: the trauma of watching the world disappear in a burst of unimaginable violence; (for Australians) the trauma of encountering the horror and brutality of what followed in the rest of the world; and (for non-Australians) the trauma of living through it. They see disorder, irrationality, and an inability to correct the two as the cause of that trauma, and so they define themselves by order, logic, and decisiveness – all motivated by a quiet, almost unrecognized need for safety that compels them to impose their order on others. Only a completely ordered society will eliminate the threat of another apocalyptic war, and only Centran society is ordered enough to count. In exchange for the single-minded drive it took to unify the planet in less than a human lifetime, Centrum’s lost most of its tolerance for opposing viewpoints. While its citizens follow plenty of philosophies and ideologies, they have a nasty habit of assuming their enemies are being shortsighted and irrational whenever they bring up a point they disagree with. This… Hasn’t helped their expansion efforts.  Homeline society is so wildly varied its hard to define an average citizen, but you absolutely can do so in Centrum. Said citizen is born in one of many large cities (there are a few smaller, traditional towns, but most people live in planned cities full of the local equivalent of brutalist architecture) and raised by their family until about 10. Then they get sent by air (Centrum never bothered rebuilding rail or road networks) to Lyceums, boarding schools designed to identify what they’re best at and build on it. At 16, they graduate and get funneled into one of the Services, government departments that function as the chief social units of Centran society (mostly because there is no distinction between Centrum’s government and civil society, so they’re the only social units), where they become Grade 1s and are told to get to work. Services cover every aspect of society from agriculture to infrastructure to parachronics to entertainment and vary in size from a couple hundred thousand to billions of employees, but they share the same internal structure; all members have a grade from 1 to 7 that determines their rank and privileges, with higher grades bringing more perks. If you’ve played Paranoia, think of it like a functional version of the color system: Grade 1s do unpleasant labor and get enough to survive (and nothing else), Grade 3s are specialists or lower managers who receive the same creature comforts a middle-class 21st-century American might expect, Grade 5s are middle managers or masters of their field plenty of privileges, and Grade 7s function as VP-equivalents or up and have so many privileges they can order around members of other Services. Now, access to luxuries does not equate to access to everything. Centrum is a command economy and most goods not immediately relevant to a person’s life, everything from cars to tools to general-use computers, can only be accessed by people who need to use them; some goods like radios or recreational drugs (many of which are legal) are still accessible, but unlicensed use (or other illegal activity) get investigated by a Justice Service allowed by law, internal culture, and public opinion to use interrogation techniques we classify as torture. The benefits are still enough to drive people climbing the ranks, and Centran meritocracy and a deep disdain for nepotism keep promotion honest. Centrans live long lives. They view technological advancement with suspicion, given its potential for social disruption, but they embrace gradually introducing new technologies and refining previously discovered ones; Centran technology is hardy, reliable, and compact, the sort of stuff Homeline engineers drool over, and their medical technology (part of the same tradition that cured countless mutated bioweapons in a decade) matches anything else in the known multiverse. All that is academic to an Infinity campaign outside of how it shapes Centrum policy towards Homeline. Homeline terrifies Centrum. It only encountered Infinity 12 years ago, the first time it met a true parachronic society, or even one that could match it technologically; before then, they connected the chaotic conditions of all timelines they encountered with their technological backwardness and social issues. And then in swings Homeline, all chaos all the time, a buzzing hive of social inequality and factions that hate each other that’s somehow united and stable enough to compete with it. To Centrum, decentralization breeds warfare, technology needs to be controlled, and diversity is inefficient at best; to Homeline, decentralization breeds constructive competition, technology is to be lusted after, and diversity is treasured, and Centrum just cannot wrap their heads around it. They keep looking for whoever’s in charge, but after dismissing Infinity as too small, the UN as too weak, and any conspiracy theories as too dumb, they’ve given up on categorizing it and decided it’s a blight on the multiverse decades away from violently collapsing at best. Like, they literally see it as a blight, they think Homeline’s causing the various baffling crosstime phenomena I’ll talk about in like three chapters. 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Hello Austrialian Buro, apparently. I suppose it's law that all these time travel adventure stories need a dark future of forced equality born out of an apocalypse.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Also seems like a big part was technological advancements that military experience and tactics hadn't caught up to, hence why you had generals throwing bodies into the meatgrinder for no gain. That's was just Western Front though. The Eastern Front was according to what they expected the war to be, and they expected it do be very deadly. On the Western Front, trenches required not only just better tactics, but new technologies to beat. The "throwing bodies at the grinder" thing happened as they were trying new methods that fell short, were improved upon, and tried again. In 4 years, you went from armies that fought like it was Franco-Prussian war again - lines of infantry hoping they can find a nice linear terrain feature to camp in without running afoul of machine guns or artillery firing over open sights - to combined arms motorized warfare with tanks, airplanes that were not more dangerous to the pilot than the enemy, and artillery firing over the horizon at an enemy they had never even seen. ..and then you have Isonzo, 13 Battles Of, which is closer to the stereotype promoted by Blackadder.
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Night10194 posted:Hello Austrialian Buro, apparently. Harrison Bergeron broke a lot of sci fi readers' brains.
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Night10194 posted:Lugi Cardona was a very, very stupid and evil man from all accounts. You have to be to favor decimation in the 20th century.
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Centrum reminds me a LOT of Earth in Star Trek, especially in TNG - for all of Picard's virtues, there is an undercurrent of superiority to him, and his appreciation of other cultures and viewpoints is rare and possibly hurt his career. IW clearly intends for them to be a morally acceptable antagonists, but, well... they might not be wrong about Homeline being a ticking time bomb.
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Night10194 posted:Hello Austrialian Buro, apparently. This is definitely a place where the Steve Jackson Games house libertarianism shines through, but despite being bland toast in a lot of ways, Centrum is interesting to me because they're both successful and, depending on where you slice it, right or at least reasonable to have the fears they do. You could probably imagine a similar guide to 'Secundus' written by a Centran, which would probably talk about how the cataclysmic land wars of the early 20th century profoundly traumatized Secundus to the point where they became terminally internationally suspicious and incapable of cooperation, a cold war of all against all, where only the desperate efforts of many Secundans of good will have, thus far, narrowly avoided a nuclear or biological war. etc.
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Tibalt posted:Centrum reminds me a LOT of Earth in Star Trek, especially in TNG - for all of Picard's virtues, there is an undercurrent of superiority to him, and his appreciation of other cultures and viewpoints is rare and possibly hurt his career. Sir are you implying that unrestricted capitalist exploitation tethered to a voluntary multinational organisation might not be sustainable? 
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Hipster Occultist posted:Here’s what the GM’s guide has to say about that. I love the "if you're playing this system, you've already won and might as well start over." Like, what? What???
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