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Looks like a four week delay on the next stage of the pandemic roadmap due to things about to pop off again. The right choice since the government still haven't implemented the capacity for effective regional controls but I'm starting to wonder what happens if the loving idiots end up rolling it into winter flu season again.
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i am increasingly dyslexic or a wishful thinker but I read that as an enforced four day week. poo poo.
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Jun 11, 2021 20:54
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NotJustANumber99 posted:i am increasingly dyslexic or a wishful thinker but I read that as an enforced four day week. poo poo.  I was preparing myself for another example of "it's Crazy Maoist Communism when Jemeery Korbin proposes it but Common Sense That Gives People What They Want And Another Brexit Bonus when Boris does it" madness
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Jun 11, 2021 20:58
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namesake posted:Either should be acceptable if you're asking about a work policy. You probably won't have to prove you're a member if you're just talking about general work things, you'd have to prove it if you were wanting union support for a grievance. Cheers, I'll drop them an email on monday. There's a bunch of us who are pissed off about this (we are more lab based so we can't work from home, and the new policy is obviously geared to people who can) so hopefully I can get some answers.
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Jun 11, 2021 21:01
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suck my woke dick posted:
tbh it sounds great, since in my ideal anarchist society any dealing with gammons and busybody boomers will be restricted to offering them a cigarette and blindfold
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Jun 11, 2021 21:25
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Jun 11, 2021 21:34
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yep them first
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Jun 11, 2021 21:35
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Jun 11, 2021 21:37
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Sure this is still one of the funniest things I've ever seen The weapon in question is a nuclear device btw
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Jun 11, 2021 21:40
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captain planet cornered by a Guinness slick helplessly making GBS threads out 4 leaf clovers. tune in next week
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Jun 11, 2021 21:52
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If anyone wants a bit more incentive to sign up for vaccination stewarding, shifts are starting to open up at places that were previously impossible to get into. There's tons of slots at the Science Museum and Wembley, and they've just opened up London Stadium and The Valley as new centres - I think I'm going to try and do a bit of ground hopping and get to all the London football stadiums that run a vaccination centre.
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Jun 11, 2021 21:53
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My employer is recording a minor uptick in the number of inpatients with a positive Covid test, but the number of patients with Covid needing enhanced care is increasing (albeit still in single digits). [edit] Also, I'm continuing to see fewer and fewer people wearing masks on the Tube in particular. I did see a bus driver tell some teenagers they couldn't get on his bus because they weren't wearing masks, which is fair enough and something I'd like to see more of them doing.
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Jun 11, 2021 22:15
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goddamnedtwisto posted:If anyone wants a bit more incentive to sign up for vaccination stewarding, shifts are starting to open up at places that were previously impossible to get into. There's tons of slots at the Science Museum and Wembley, and they've just opened up London Stadium and The Valley as new centres - I think I'm going to try and do a bit of ground hopping and get to all the London football stadiums that run a vaccination centre. I'm not totally sure spreading yourself as far and wide as you can as a vaccination steward is entirely on pandemic brand.
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Jun 11, 2021 22:27
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kingturnip posted:My employer is recording a minor uptick in the number of inpatients with a positive Covid test, but the number of patients with Covid needing enhanced care is increasing (albeit still in single digits). Yeah, apart from a stronger immune system, one of the reasons that younger people weren't so badly affected earlier is that many were furloughed or working from home. Now that places are opening up and workplaces are adopting a hybrid pattern, the numbers of very ill patients will rise. I am noticing a lot of chin-hammocks going on, and the few brave souls persevering with the track and trace app aren't bothering to quarantine for the full fortnight if they get a negative test result after being told they were exposed. If there is to be an extension, then the PM better announce it soon so that people have time digest that information, otherwise there will be mass non-compliance.
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Jun 11, 2021 22:32
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The delta variant is more transmissible and affects younger people more and seems to be less affected by vaccines. It’s frankly rather worrying. The government should put the brakes on loosening things up or we are heading for another wave. Jesus. Whether it was deliberate or just another example of this government being cavalier that’s a tremendous gently caress you.
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Jun 11, 2021 22:40
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The only reasoning I can think of for that present is a deliberate "gently caress you". "Hey remember when you guys still had slavery after we'd abolished it?" He's trying to play for his home audience to talk up how non-racist Britane is. A play exactly as well thought-through as the Road to Mandalay.
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Jun 11, 2021 22:46
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yeah but a print out from wikipedia is a bit poo poo its mums birthday in two days what am I getting?!?!?!
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Jun 11, 2021 22:48
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I'm not totally sure spreading yourself as far and wide as you can as a vaccination steward is entirely on pandemic brand. On the contrary, for this country, it's *entirely* on brand. (FWIW I'm doing lateral-flow tests basically every day now, plus the occasional PCR test, and of course am masked and distanced and - in this weather - am literally elbowing people out the way for the outdoor posts)
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Jun 11, 2021 22:48
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namesake posted:Looks like a four week delay on the next stage of the pandemic roadmap due to things about to pop off again. Not sure what your basing this on? The governments last message was 'no new lockdown' under any circumstances. All the press is firmly in the 'No delay camp' The general public seem to be 'done' with lockdown. Pubs want to make bank off the Euros. The UK seems to have just decided risking a couple thousand more long-covid cases and a small number of further deaths is acceptable and baked them in. Boris isn't going to be seen botching the 'landing'. We might even get away with it.
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Jun 11, 2021 22:48
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Borrovan posted:The only reasoning I can think of for that present is a deliberate "gently caress you". "Hey remember when you guys still had slavery after we'd abolished it?" A deliberate gently caress you in the British tradition ought to involve multiple 300 year old references that only massive weirds get, this just seems like lazy last minute scrambling if it is what happened. If it is supposed to be 'clever' then it's a type of clever that nobody other than his immediate office team wanted to go along with.
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Jun 11, 2021 22:49
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Every day there's a different source leaking a different story. Johnson obviously hasn't decided yet and probably won't until 5.45pm on Monday.
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Jun 11, 2021 22:51
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lol loving hell, they are really masters of diplomacy.
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Jun 11, 2021 22:51
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Isn't this the reverse of when the Queen gave some special hand crafted historic/symbolic pen to Obama and he gave her some region locked DVDs in exchange?
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e: ^^^^that was Gordon Brown. He gave the Queen a nice brooch, planting the seeds for her later EPIC BURN against TrumpGuavanaut posted:this just seems like lazy last minute scrambling Borrovan fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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Jun 11, 2021 22:53
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Isn't the real joke that he would have to pay up about four and a half grand to keep it, and can't because he's tapped out and the flat fiasco scared off all the donors?
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Jun 11, 2021 22:58
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JoylessJester posted:Isn't this the reverse of when the Queen gave some special hand crafted historic/symbolic pen to Obama and he gave her some region locked DVDs in exchange?
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Jun 11, 2021 23:05
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JoylessJester posted:Not sure what your basing this on? Just twitter rumours but the FTs numbers are already showing case increases similar to the November wave across the country and deaths are coming from fully vaccinated people so there's no completely safe end game to rush towards. I was a bit surprised they didn't balk at the last date though, so maybe they'll just power on through and hope they can ride it out. namesake fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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Jun 11, 2021 23:16
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i dont think theres much pr hit for the government to take over delaying. And even if there was it would just mean a 5 point jump in their polling.
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Jun 11, 2021 23:25
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As someone who was pretty anxious about it last year I really am beginning to get the point where I think the mental health outcomes of further lockdowns might well outweigh the damage done by another modest spike amongst a mostly vaccinated population. If we'd gone full strict shutdown with no exceptions for a bit like China did in wuhan, that would have been fair enough, and we'd have been through it and back to normal by now like they are. Our approach of intermittent confused, half arsed lockdowns with a million exceptions is basically pointless as long term strategy. You simply cannot put an entire country in house arrest for years on end without serious consequences, especially for people who live alone or in lovely situations, and that does need to be considered and weighed up.
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Jun 11, 2021 23:32
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ThomasPaine posted:As someone who was pretty anxious about it last year I really am beginning to get the point where I think the mental health outcomes of further lockdowns might well outweigh the damage done by another modest spike amongst a mostly vaccinated population. If we'd gone full strict shutdown with no exceptions for a bit like China did in wuhan, that would have been fair enough, and we'd have been through it and back to normal by now like they are. Our approach of intermittent confused, half arsed lockdowns with a million exceptions is basically pointless as long term strategy. You simply cannot put an entire country in house arrest for years on end without serious consequences, especially for people who live alone or in lovely situations, and that does need to be considered and weighed up. I'm kind of with this. I get the feeling that Johnson won't go backwards under any circumstances. We're mostly vaccinated now and he had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the last lockdown (when people were dying in the thousands). So pubs, restaurants and stadiums aren't likely to close their doors again unless things go spectacularly wrong, and even then it'll be too late like it has been every other time. So you start to wonder what the point of the rest of it is. From a purely selfish perspective my wedding was postponed for the third time and we picked a date very soon after the 21st not realising we'd lucked into the promised 'end of lockdown' date. The last month or so has been utterly poo poo, basically having no idea what we will or won't be allowed to do on our wedding day and not knowing which - if any - of the plans we've made will actually amount to anything. Walking past pubs full of hundreds of people while we may not be able to have more than 30 even if we moved it all outdoors is maddening.
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Jun 11, 2021 23:50
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As I understand it, due to vaccinations the majority of spread at the moment is in schools and workplaces amongst younger, unvaccinated people, and even going back one or two stages back into lockdowns is not going to do much to change that.
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Jun 11, 2021 23:59
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Jun 12, 2021 00:01
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https://twitter.com/OzKaterji/status/1403020291333410823?s=20 Corbyn destroyed Labour for all time. Recovery is impossible.
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Jun 12, 2021 02:43
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Remember when people set up auto-complete so it would introduce Liam Fox with the phrase "disgraced former defence secretary"? They should do one for Oz Katerji where is says "former Daily Mail writer". Say what you want about Corbyn but at least he didn't get paid by the newspaper that supported Hitler.
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Jun 12, 2021 02:52
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/OzKaterji/status/1403020291333410823?s=20 replies are cursed
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Jun 12, 2021 03:12
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mediaphage posted:replies are cursed https://twitter.com/JackLubner/status/1403012597402701831?s=20
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Jun 12, 2021 03:15
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stev posted:Every day there's a different source leaking a different story. Johnson obviously hasn't decided yet and probably won't until 5.45pm on Monday. Boris currently writing two speeches, one where he announces the end of restrictions and one where he extends them.
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Jun 12, 2021 07:58
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Pistol_Pete posted:Boris currently writing two speeches, one where he announces the end of restrictions and one where he extends them. Just wait til he mixes up his notes and does half of each
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Jun 12, 2021 09:49
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Boris writes his own speeches? Hahahahaha.
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crispix posted:i think getting good support from a union depends on who you have locally. my union rep was worse than useless. i would have been okay with merely useless, like if she'd just taken notes like she was supposed to but she actually started speaking against me at a meeting we were at because she wanted to ingratiate herself to the managers lol yknow if your workplace has a recognition agreement they have to pay you for taking time off for rep qualifications. (I would say contact steward first and include your membership number, if the officer or legal's opinion is needed the steward should get on that quickly anyway)
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