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paul_soccer12 posted:he lives in california and owns a house im jealous
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https://twitter.com/MSignorile/status/1403315180201730055 how loving stupid is this?! Nixon literally struck a deal with the South Vietnamese to scuttle the 1968 peace talks by promising better terms as long as they walked away EDIT: wrong thread but gently caress it I don't care gradenko_2000 has issued a correction as of 09:35 on Jun 12, 2021 |
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Jun 12, 2021 09:30
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Why do libs get tilted about gray zone
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Jun 12, 2021 09:36
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Josh Christ posted:Why do libs get tilted about gray zone the website has got that crank aesthetic perfected, it can't be helped
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Jun 12, 2021 09:46
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Nixon was involved in at least three mass murders, while Trump only did Yemen.
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Jun 12, 2021 09:55
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Trump also did Venezuela/Iran sanctions which murdered people tbf. I read something recently about how Iran was unable to convert as quickly to renewable energies as a result and cities like Isfahan have developed unprecedented levels of smog, as they are forced more and more to rely on their own natural resources otoh nixon probably has more than 3 on his resume
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Jun 12, 2021 11:05
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Nixon's support for the genocide in East Pakistan is already worse than everything Trump did combined. Maybe Trump gets worse if you can determine how many of the global covid fatalities can be blamed on the Trump admin's dogshit pandemic response turning the US into a global superspreader.
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I actually wonder if anyone's tried ranking US presidents by the megadeaths they're responsible for.
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Jun 12, 2021 11:13
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Nixon's support for the genocide in East Pakistan is already worse than everything Trump did combined. Maybe Trump gets worse if you can determine how many of the global covid fatalities can be blamed on the Trump admin's dogshit pandemic response turning the US into a global superspreader. Nah, until someone takes a calculator to the mass graves in Yemen we won't really know that. But of course Nixon also has Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. And probably more, but I can't think of any at the moment.
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/MSignorile/status/1403315180201730055 It's worse than the subset of Nixon's crimes that people actually cared about Mass murder is fine and dandy, but wiretapping is just taking it too far
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Jun 12, 2021 11:19
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genericnick posted:Nah, until someone takes a calculator to the mass graves in Yemen we won't really know that. But of course Nixon also has Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. And probably more, but I can't think of any at the moment. You still have to split the difference on Yemen between Trump & Obama.
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Jun 12, 2021 11:20
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I actually wonder if anyone's tried ranking US presidents by the megadeaths they're responsible for. The premise of that question is already flawed , the individual presidents are not the cause or driving force of US imperialism and trying to split it between different administrations pretends that there is a difference in foreign policies between parties.
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Jun 12, 2021 12:06
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/MSignorile/status/1403315180201730055 The NSA is collecting everyone's emails all the time, why are we supposed to be mad that congress doesn't get exempted?
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Jun 12, 2021 12:57
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Trump also personally ordered the execution of an 8-year-old girl in a SEAL raid after Obama had murdered her brother and father with drone strikes.
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Jun 12, 2021 14:08
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Nixon's support for the genocide in East Pakistan is already worse than everything Trump did combined. Maybe Trump gets worse if you can determine how many of the global covid fatalities can be blamed on the Trump admin's dogshit pandemic response turning the US into a global superspreader. Hes not just responsible for the for the 500k covid deaths + millions with long covid, hes also largely responsible for the massive anti-vaxx horeshit on the right which is gonna keep covid around in a significant way for years to come(we're gonna have a nasty 3rd wave this winter, especially in red states) by refusing to tell his chud neanderthal base that its fine and doesn't have nanobots or baby parts in them. He had a responsibility to do that instead the motherfucker relentlessly down played the virus, rarely if ever worse a mask in public, and best of all got vaxxed in secret. When it comes to domestic deaths, Trump has that crown locked up. On foreign fronts, obviously theres much worse than him.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I actually wonder if anyone's tried ranking US presidents by the megadeaths they're responsible for. HW Bush's "read my lips, no new taxes" is sampled on the track "foreclosure of a dream" from 1991's "Countdown to Extinction"
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Gresh posted:Hes not just responsible for the for the 500k covid deaths + millions with long covid, hes also largely responsible for the massive anti-vaxx horeshit on the right which is gonna keep covid around in a significant way for years to come(we're gonna have a nasty 3rd wave this winter, especially in red states) by refusing to tell his chud neanderthal base that its fine and doesn't have nanobots or baby parts in them. He had a responsibility to do that instead the motherfucker relentlessly down played the virus, rarely if ever worse a mask in public, and best of all got vaxxed in secret. When it comes to domestic deaths, Trump has that crown locked up. On foreign fronts, obviously theres much worse than him. You absolutely cannot put the 500k covid deaths on Trump. Kamala and other dems explicitly told people not to trust vaccines if they came out before the election, NJ and NY still lead the nation on deaths per million because of their homicidal policies regarding senior homes, etc. This isnt a defense of trump, but it was 100% a joint effort.
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Jun 12, 2021 17:40
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AnimeIsTrash posted:If you get your politics from youtube and not the good combined words of mr karl marx, and mr frederick engels you're probably an idiot. the omission of lenin, stalin, and mao is sacrilege here hth
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joepinetree posted:You absolutely cannot put the 500k covid deaths on Trump. Kamala and other dems explicitly told people not to trust vaccines if they came out before the election, NJ and NY still lead the nation on deaths per million because of their homicidal policies regarding senior homes, etc. This isnt a defense of trump, but it was 100% a joint effort. So where the Nixon genocides, to be fair.
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Jun 12, 2021 18:03
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genericnick posted:So where the Nixon genocides, to be fair. And Yemen, Iraq, interventions in Latin America, including the recent coups in Honduras and Bolivia...
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Jun 12, 2021 18:04
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Josh Christ posted:Why do libs get tilted about gray zone Because liberals don’t like it when you expose their fascist alliances or just their fascism in general
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Jun 12, 2021 18:09
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joepinetree posted:And Yemen, Iraq, interventions in Latin America, including the recent coups in Honduras and Bolivia... Quite, which is why doing megadeath tier lists for US presidents is silly. But we're doing it anyway.
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Gresh posted:Hes not just responsible for the for the 500k covid deaths + millions with long covid, hes also largely responsible for the massive anti-vaxx horeshit on the right which is gonna keep covid around in a significant way for years to come(we're gonna have a nasty 3rd wave this winter, especially in red states) by refusing to tell his chud neanderthal base that its fine and doesn't have nanobots or baby parts in them. He had a responsibility to do that instead the motherfucker relentlessly down played the virus, rarely if ever worse a mask in public, and best of all got vaxxed in secret. When it comes to domestic deaths, Trump has that crown locked up. On foreign fronts, obviously theres much worse than him. With domestic deaths there are also the presidents who basically helped make the confederacy happen, like Polk, Pierce, and Buchanan. And then Native genocide basically implicates every single president
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Junkozeyne posted:The premise of that question is already flawed , the individual presidents are not the cause or driving force of US imperialism and trying to split it between different administrations pretends that there is a difference in foreign policies between parties. We're playing by Black Book rules, nerd. Get with the program.
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In that case the most destructive president is obviously Roosevelt, his new deal preventing a proper socialist revolution and saving US capitalism. The root of all evil post WW2
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Demon Semen posted:Because liberals don’t like it when you expose their fascist alliances or just their fascism in general Yeah but i guess I mean what's their actual argument, I want to be ready the next time a slack I'm in starts discussing bobby and gets uppity when I call him an op
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I'm team cenk
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China is genociding (Cenk) Uygur('s viewership)!
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watching Ana walk flawlessly into saying dumb poo poo about the DPRK while refusing to learn anything about Syria was lol https://twitter.com/notXiangyu/status/1403648144089485313?s=19
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Prince Myshkin posted:China is genociding (Cenk) Uygur('s viewership)!
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 Max noped right out of that like a good little boy. can someone please make a gif of Max's reaction lol
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Lol. What really pisses me off is what Ana tried to do to Mate and now Cenk seems to be attempting the same thing with Blumenthal and Greenwald today? The whole back and forth between TYT and Dore and co. over the past 6 months has been entertaining and largely inconsequential noise imo, but Cenk and Ana seem to be taking this to a new level now along with overtly doubling and tripling down on outright bullshit. The wheels really came off the TYT bandwagon and they're lashing out. 5.5 million subs and can barely manage 3k live viewers daily. Jesus, I remember watching TYT almost everyday from 2011-2015. Gresh has issued a correction as of 03:16 on Jun 14, 2021 |
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Jun 14, 2021 03:11
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i saw she had a gig with jacobin and i can reckon she's looking for a lifeboat
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i saw she had a gig with jacobin and i can reckon she's looking for a lifeboat https://twitter.com/DanielDenvir/status/1403817232405307393?s=20
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Not gonna lie the implosion of TYT has been entertaining It all began because 1) Cenk/Ana taking $24 million from clinton/dnc donors after building their brand against corruption (and seriously thought their audience wouldn’t have a major problem with that), and 2) against #forcethevote DURING A loving PANDAMIC, and 3) fully embraced Neomccarthyism/ RussiaGate. Now they’ve managed to piss off the entire socialist media presence lol Cenk also crushing tyt employees trying to unionize I mean just lmao gently caress that greasy fatass
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Demon Semen posted:2) against #forcethevote DURING A loving PANDAMIC https://twitter.com/Terrence_STR/status/1368421831351427073
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Jacobin had an article that was like "was John Stuart Mill a socialist?" a month ago That quote is correct
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gradenko_2000 posted:Jacobin had an article that was like "was John Stuart Mill a socialist?" a month ago I remember it being pretty good at first, but the quality dropped off a loving cliff in recent years.
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