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jesus WEP posted:hangman got busted open pretty bad in their match but iirc it was just like he scratched his head on the underside of a turnbuckle or something, just a weird accident that could happen to anyone He was bleeding from the mouth early in the match, so it was probably a stiff shot or Hangman bit his tongue during a bump or something. Then it was the turnbuckle scrape after that. Neither was from anything unsafe though, and Hangman cutting a promo to Cage while a bloody mess after that looked badass as hell.
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 19:46 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 21:08 |
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MassRafTer posted:He actually did randomly respond to Bix last year (also about Dark Side) and quickly stopped replying when Bix came at him. Go figure.
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 20:48 |
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I love him so much. https://twitter.com/mkurtz91/status/1404150964844744710
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 21:08 |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/sundownmotel/status/1403863235304910850 Just an incredibly stupid take on so many levels
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 21:55 |
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His first tweet isn't entirely wrong though. It did get a ton of attention from people that normally wouldn't give any kind of poo poo about wrestling.
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 22:03 |
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Total Divas definitely created new fans and helped mask WWE's decline at the time. They were still losing viewership overall, but it wasn't as big as it could have been. This is a far cry from it making wrestling cool and current for the first time ever.
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 22:11 |
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My mom has seen every episode of Miz and Misses and knows about The Bellas/Total Divas shows but that has never translated to her watching or having any interest in wrestling. To most people it's just another trashy reality TV show to watch, not a gateway drug into becoming a wrestling fan.
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 22:20 |
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Imagine the level of sheer disappointment in getting really into a reality show and then deciding to check out what they do in WWE. Enjoy all 3 minutes of it, I guess.
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 22:21 |
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Total Divas consistently outperformed TNA and TNA is going to outlast them.
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 22:29 |
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Benne posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/sundownmotel/status/1403863235304910850 Was this guy locked in a time capsule during the late 90s?
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 22:37 |
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JT Smiley posted:Was this guy locked in a time capsule during the late 90s? He recently wrote a book on WWE history! His research was so thorough he concluded Vince and Linda are "forever devoted to each other."
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# ? Jun 13, 2021 22:50 |
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Total Divas def created new wrestling fans that were social media oriented. Very few of them landed in the WWE-only category and def not the high spending WWE only superfan that helps keep a company visible.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 00:24 |
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https://twitter.com/NJPWFanClubNA/status/1403746420264341506
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 00:41 |
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Guys like Hangman, Trent and Lance Archer decided that getting paid more money over a longer, more stable contract, a fraction of the travel, fewer dates (and thus fewer bumps) and a much, much higher ceiling to their stardom was probably a better move for their career and a handful of NJPW fans have never forgiven them for it. There are people that will tell you with a straight face that Trent ruined his career going to AEW because he could've stayed in NJPW and been the Chaos mole.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 00:50 |
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MJeff posted:Guys like Hangman, Trent and Lance Archer decided that getting paid more money over a longer, more stable contract, a fraction of the travel, fewer dates (and thus fewer bumps) and a much, much higher ceiling to their stardom was probably a better move for their career and a handful of NJPW fans have never forgiven them for it. Gedo is doing a fantastic job of running off all the gaijins.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 01:10 |
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I mean, Gedo's just the booker. The office is the one that seems to in general react to any given gaijin leaving the company with "eh we can always find more white guys". Which, to be fair, they have so far. They only push like one or two gaijin at an actual high level and the rest are just midcarders, so.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 01:14 |
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I'm sure Hangman misses being the pin eater in random Elite trios and going 3-6 in G1s
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 01:15 |
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MJeff posted:I mean, Gedo's just the booker. The office is the one that seems to in general react to any given gaijin leaving the company with "eh we can always find more white guys". Which, to be fair, they have so far. They only push like one or two gaijin at an actual high level and the rest are just midcarders, so. Let's use Osprey to get the great o Khan over! Let's use Jay White to get evil and dick Togo over! Wait why are you guys leaving
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 01:31 |
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The first is a very smart and good call. The latter isn't what's happening. They view Jay as a top guy and will push him as one for as long as he's there. If he leaves, they'll have him put someone else over on the way out, but if anything, the point is going to be for EVIL to get Jay over as a babyface. When they decide to pull the trigger on that face turn in about 14 years.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 01:36 |
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Jay’s from the dojo. He’s one of the few gaijin they’ve got to fully drink the njpw koolaid.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 01:38 |
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For Hangman to sniff the IWGP title would mean having to work Japan full time and even than given the talent they had than (and in 2019 and even today) it probably wouldn't have happened. So yeah going to AEW where he'd clearly have a clear title path is total the right choice. Same for Trent as while he hasn't won a title he's clearly in a main event act and in AEW tag teams will mean way more than they ever will in New Japan. Now Lance you can make case is twisting in the wind right now in AEW whereas he had a clear upper middle card role in New Japan. But probably travel swung that choice (and also Covid made it also the very correct choice too).
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 02:04 |
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Trent even had a verbal deal to re-sign with New Japan so it's not like he was run out, he just got a better offer.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 02:07 |
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NJPW management remembers the insanity about the Brock belt bullshit and isn't going to belt an outsider on a freelance deal.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 02:08 |
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coconono posted:NJPW management remembers the insanity about the Brock belt bullshit and isn't going to belt an outsider on a freelance deal. Brock's contractual status wasn't the problem they just didn't want to pay him the kind of money he was contracted for. AJ did the same kind of deal and got the belt.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 02:09 |
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MassRafTer posted:Brock's contractual status wasn't the problem they just didn't want to pay him the kind of money he was contracted for. AJ did the same kind of deal and got the belt. I thought the brock belt went to Inoki's fed.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 02:16 |
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Also given the fact NJPW allowed Lio Rush to sign with AEW while under New Japan contract means the relationship is a lot more open these days
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 02:31 |
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coconono posted:I thought the brock belt went to Inoki's fed. It did but because New Japan chose to strip him rather than pay the agreed to contracted rate. They signed him for a ton of money per match, he didn't draw so they didn't want to pay.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 02:38 |
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SatoshiMiwa posted:For Hangman to sniff the IWGP title would mean having to work Japan full time and even than given the talent they had than (and in 2019 and even today) it probably wouldn't have happened. So yeah going to AEW where he'd clearly have a clear title path is total the right choice. Same for Trent as while he hasn't won a title he's clearly in a main event act and in AEW tag teams will mean way more than they ever will in New Japan. Uh. What? Lance in AEW is pushed so much more than he was in NJPW.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 03:03 |
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Lance Archer is also tall and over forty, not having the fly to Japan is a BIG perk.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 03:17 |
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karmicknight posted:Lance Archer is also tall and over forty, not having the fly to Japan is a BIG perk. I'm pretty sure this was the main reason he gave for jumping. He was happy enough in NJPW to the point where he went all in on handling the marketing for the G1 opener in Dallas that the company itself didn't really feel the need to do
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 04:34 |
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Archer also wanted an actual contract for a change.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 04:37 |
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Lance is p clearly getting a bigger push in AEW than he ever did in New Japan. Dude was a forever midcard guy in Suzuki-Gun and the highest he got, after almost a decade in the promotion mind you, was to act as a belt pillow for Mox for a couple of months, whereas in AEW he is at least treated as a top contender and a legit threat to anyone he faces.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 07:02 |
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To be fair, New Japan did put the tag belts on KES multiple times. Is Davey Jr. signed anywhere now? It looks like he's just doing random indie dates.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 07:37 |
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sticklefifer posted:To be fair, New Japan did put the tag belts on KES multiple times. And to be completely fair, the IWGP tag belts were a complete afterthought until very recently.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 07:43 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:And to be completely fair, the IWGP tag belts were a complete afterthought until very recently. Kinda still are, to be honest.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 07:48 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:And to be completely fair, the IWGP tag belts were a complete afterthought until very recently. To also be fair, most NJPW belts are because there are so goddamn many of them.
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 08:02 |
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sticklefifer posted:Is Davey Jr. signed anywhere now? It looks like he's just doing random indie dates. I think he was holding out for a WWE offer that never came so he's just an indie guy now
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 09:22 |
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https://twitter.com/DashingChrisBey/status/1404425436797358088?s=20
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 15:47 |
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just cuz his wife slept with you doesn't mean you have to stick up for him, mang. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Jun 14, 2021 16:17 |
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# ? Jun 5, 2024 21:08 |
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I have my own company. Not a wrestling company, but a company. Can I hate him?
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