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Axe-man posted:Are separated Nacelles dumb, or are we RLM style old boomers who don't understand the kids? I just figure a ship should either be a contiguous unit or a floating mass of separate bits, not a mix
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Of all the things to separate, nacelles seem like the dumbest possible idea
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Jun 14, 2021 18:48
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Axe-man posted:I mean the real trick here in Star Trek are the replicators, they are the thing that basically breaks all the rules and make it post scarcity. It also eliminates commerce on such a scale, I literally don't know what the interstellar community "trades." They were never really clear on this, but it seems reasonable that replicators can't transmute elements, so if you want to make a doodad out of unobtainium, you have to give it the same mass in unobtainium to start with. All a replicator can do is rearrange atoms. This also neatly explains why you can't just replicate more latinum. Food is all made of the same few very common elements, so it's easy to have huge tanks of material ready for that, and it's why food is the most common replicated stuff we see. It also seems like a replicator is a really energy-inefficient way to make something. If you're on a starship with a huge-rear end warp core providing gigantic amounts of power anyway, that probably won't be an issue -- unless of course unless you're stranded halfway across the galaxy, in which case the whole crew replicating their lunch might actually add up to a significant energy drain and would need to be restricted. (Maybe you could pick up a local who can act as a chef.) So while replicators are very handy for small-scale use or for routine use on energy-rich environments like starships and starbases, they'd be utterly hopeless for mass production of items that you'd need on a planetary scale.
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Jun 14, 2021 18:53
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We have the voice cast for Prodigy. Beyond Mulgrew:quote:Dee Bradley Baker (“SpongeBob SquarePants”) as Murf, an endearing, indestructible blob with curiously good timing and an insatiable appetite for ship parts.
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Jun 14, 2021 19:00
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And yet I bet Janeway won't kill even one of those kids
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Jun 14, 2021 19:06
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DBB is a good VA catch and the Medusan is cool, but I’m still having a hard time caring about this show at all. But I’m also not the intended audience, so 
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Jun 14, 2021 19:08
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Is the medusan the ball with legs?
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Jun 14, 2021 19:13
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Brawnfire posted:Is the medusan the ball with legs?  Edit: Oh, you mean in Prodigy. Yeah:  I'm more surprised at the inclusion of a Brikari character. That's a deep cut (the Brikari come from Peter David's New Frontier series of novels).
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Jun 14, 2021 19:16
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Should have just said “Jankom Pog, a Tellerite.”Timby posted:I'm more surprised at the inclusion of a Brikari character. That's a deep cut (the Brikari come from Peter David's New Frontier series of novels). Not too deep, that guy was a main character after all. I can only hope this one will also literally tear people (that tried to shoot her) in half. Kibayasu fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Jun 14, 2021 |
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Jun 14, 2021 19:17
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brikar, not brikari. they're from the tng starfleet academy books. :edit: oh, it's the same guy in both the new frontier and the starfleet academy books.
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Jun 14, 2021 19:18
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Axe-man posted:Are separated Nacelles dumb, or are we RLM style old boomers who don't understand the kids? It’s been legitimately fascinating/depressing watching Mike and Rich slowly work through the five stages of grief over the realization that Star Trek isn’t TNG anymore and actually hasn’t been TNG anymore for the majority of their lives now because they’re old. They’re so miserable they won’t even bother watching Lower Decks, the best Trek show since DS9 went off the air.
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Jun 14, 2021 19:24
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So they're... Brick people?
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Jun 14, 2021 19:25
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thotsky posted:Why would a spacesuit be leaving the spacestation? I'm so happy to have been there at the right moment for that conversation. My goodness.
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Brawnfire posted:So they're... Brick people? Hard like brick, look like people, briiiiick people
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nine-gear crow posted:It’s been legitimately fascinating/depressing watching Mike and Rich slowly work through the five stages of grief over the realization that Star Trek isn’t TNG anymore and actually hasn’t been TNG anymore for the majority of their lives now because they’re old. They’re so miserable they won’t even bother watching Lower Decks, the best Trek show since DS9 went off the air. Faint praise, damning, etc
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Jun 14, 2021 19:50
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I totally called that the one guy was a Tellarite
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Jun 14, 2021 19:51
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Big Mean Jerk posted:DBB is a good VA catch and the Medusan is cool, but I’m still having a hard time caring about this show at all. Yeah, Prodigy is something I might watch in a few years if I hear it's gone in a Clone Wars/Rebels direction and somehow become unexpectedly important to the bigger shows. Or if my niece gets into it and demands I watch it with her.
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Jun 14, 2021 19:58
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Delsaber posted:Yeah, Prodigy is something I might watch in a few years if I hear it's gone in a Clone Wars/Rebels direction and somehow become unexpectedly important to the bigger shows. Or if my niece gets into it and demands I watch it with her. Now you've guaranteed she will.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:09
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nine-gear crow posted:It’s been legitimately fascinating/depressing watching Mike and Rich slowly work through the five stages of grief over the realization that Star Trek isn’t TNG anymore and actually hasn’t been TNG anymore for the majority of their lives now because they’re old. They’re so miserable they won’t even bother watching Lower Decks, the best Trek show since DS9 went off the air. They like deep space 9 which is explicitly nothing like tng. Unless by like TNG you mean watchable bit that sounds like a good thing to realize
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Technowolf posted:Now you've guaranteed she will. It'll be a step up from Blippi at least.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:13
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Rylee Alazraqui is apparently the 10y/o daughter of the amazing Carlos Alazraqui, dunno if "talent for VA work" is an inherited trait though 
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Powered Descent posted:They were never really clear on this, but it seems reasonable that replicators can't transmute elements, so if you want to make a doodad out of unobtainium, you have to give it the same mass in unobtainium to start with. All a replicator can do is rearrange atoms. This also neatly explains why you can't just replicate more latinum. Food is all made of the same few very common elements, so it's easy to have huge tanks of material ready for that, and it's why food is the most common replicated stuff we see. Nah, it's explicit that the replicator does matter-energy/energy-matter conversion just like a transporter. It's whether latinum can be replicated that Star Trek is unclear about. thotsky fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Jun 14, 2021 |
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Jun 14, 2021 20:19
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Rylee Alazraqui is apparently the 10y/o daughter of the amazing Carlos Alazraqui, dunno if "talent for VA work" is an inherited trait though She's actually really, really good. Very rich voice for someone so young.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:20
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It still blows my mind that Deputy Garcia and Rocko the Wallaby are the same guy. Voice acting is witchcraft.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:22
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Big Mean Jerk posted:It still blows my mind that Deputy Garcia and Rocko the Wallaby are the same guy. Voice acting is witchcraft. Kevin Clash being the voice of both Elmo and Splinter (from the live-action TMNT movies) blew my mind.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:24
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thotsky posted:Nah, it's explicit that the replicator does matter-energy/energy-matter conversion just like a transporter. It's whether latinum can be replicated that Star Trek is unclear about. That may not be what people decided replicators actually mean, sort of like with the transporter, but that's what the tech guides and poo poo says it does.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:36
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Children love the meat tank
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Jun 14, 2021 20:39
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Big Mean Jerk posted:It still blows my mind that Deputy Garcia and Rocko the Wallaby are the same guy. Voice acting is witchcraft. Jennifer Hale voiced a Vulcan and a dog in the same episode of Lower Decks and I didn't realize it for months despite hearing her voice in like a dozen projects over the last 10+ years.
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Timby posted:
Clearly setting up an X-Men crossover
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Nessus posted:It's actually explicitly the other way around, the replicator beams in from a tank of generic feedstock for food. I assume there's a similar and probably separate tank for like, replicating prybars and poo poo. Can't seem to find anything about that in canon sources, memory alpha does not mention it either. Your explanation sounds like it would fit with the predecessor to the replicator, the "protein resequencer", based purely on the name, but every reference I can find for the replicator says it consumes energy only. There is some mention of certain materials taking more energy to replicate than others, and some being impossible to replicate due to complexity, which could explain latinum, but no canon source says anything on whether or not latinum can be replicated.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:It still blows my mind that Deputy Garcia and Rocko the Wallaby are the same guy. Voice acting is witchcraft. I've managed to reconcile this but the fact that he also did the voice of Spunky still blows my mind
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Jun 14, 2021 21:03
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BonHair posted:The main problem is how they get people to peel onions and potatoes and other sucky parts of cooking. They can't have an infinite supply of grandchildren on vacation. One thing to keep in mind is that even if there's still unpleasant or tedious jobs, it doesn't necessarily mean that people still have to spend 40+ hours a week doing those jobs. How many jobs would be more palatable if you only had to do them for a couple days a week?
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Axe-man posted:Are separated Nacelles dumb, or are we RLM style old boomers who don't understand the kids? My hot take is that seperated nacelles are dumb, but less dumb looking than normal nacelles. However, if you remove the hot dogs from a Federation ship, you just get ugly flying saucers so I think at this point ya gotta have em.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I've managed to reconcile this but the fact that he also did the voice of Spunky still blows my mind
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:One thing to keep in mind is that even if there's still unpleasant or tedious jobs, it doesn't necessarily mean that people still have to spend 40+ hours a week doing those jobs. How many jobs would be more palatable if you only had to do them for a couple days a week? Well for other chefs, usually they are also learning a craft. So you might start as the onion guy so you learn how to cut things, etc. You know honest appreticeship instead of our corporate culture world of "oh, yeah, you can grow at this company, just be the best potato peeler in the world while we make someone who has better optics your manager."
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Axe-man posted:Well for other chefs, usually they are also learning a craft. So you might start as the onion guy so you learn how to cut things, etc. Or you take turns, rochambeau, draw up an equitable weekly schedule, etc. Yknow like normal people undertaking a mutual endeavor to make something good.
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Back on watching ds9 season 1, the episode where the ambassador is wildly horned up for Odo rules so much. Watching Odo try to maintain volcel is so fun. "I'm paying attention ambassador, just considering committing suicide, keep talking" Josh Christ fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jun 14, 2021 |
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Jun 14, 2021 21:57
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thotsky posted:Nah, it's explicit that the replicator does matter-energy/energy-matter conversion just like a transporter. It's whether latinum can be replicated that Star Trek is unclear about. This was my feeling too. While I love the idea of a Meat Brig, Voyager makes it pretty clear with the way they talk to the Kazon about replicators conjuring water "out of thin air"; or that two Ferengi with a shuttle-craft replicator could hold a planet hostage if they had to rely on a limited supply of glorified 3D printing goop instead of energy-matter conversion. There are far more heinous crimes about how poo poo works than the replicator, like the transporter buffers being made into a Fountain of Youth to cure Polaski of the rapid aging in Unnatural Selection and then no one ever spoke of it again.
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There are a lot of interstellar phenomena that get showcased on the various Star Trek series. Most of them are made up, but a few of them are real. This video discusses the more noteworthy ones that appear on the show. https://youtu.be/SlQQ4xf9o88
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The problem with going into too much detail on actual phenomena, or as I call it "Stephen Baxter Syndrome," is that you either gloss over it and reduce the science to an extremely simplified one-liner, or you have to find a way to give a better explanation without interrupting the flow of the scene. (The author Stephen Baxter is notorious for this - his concepts are really cool but his actual writing constantly suffers from characters literally stopping what they're doing and conveniently explaining Cosmic Strings to another character for 3 pages)
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