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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1404561740365537283 "I always want to remind everyone I'm very much a normal person" is very much something a normal person would say.
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Jun 15, 2021 11:00
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1404561740365537283 I'm just relieved that one of her supporters must have let her come over and see their personal Hitler statue before visiting the museum, so that she could learn about something like the Holocaust.
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Jun 15, 2021 11:07
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Netanyahu was officially drummed out of power today and went out with a bang. Funnily enough, Bennett is the first prospective PM in Israel history who received Shin Bet protection prior to assuming the post specifically due to the threat posed by Bibi’s followers. This coalition government is going to be a shitshow.
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Jun 15, 2021 11:52
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-Blackadder- posted:Quick question: Anything by Robert Evans is great. BtB has covered L. Ron Hubbard, Cecil Rhodes, Elon Musk, and plenty of other big name assholes. He also goes into depth on the origins of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and the many multiple ways they're bullshit, and why conspiracy theories and conspiricism always seem to fall down that particular anti-Semitic hole. Less fun but very very good is "It Can Happen Here" which projects his experiences in Syria descending into civil war onto America. It was so plausible and depressing he had to modify the release schedule because people were becoming suicidal  Also he's a goon though he doesn't post much any more.
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Jun 15, 2021 12:04
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https://insidermag.net/survey-shows-people-no-longer-believe-working-hard-will-lead-to-a-better-life/quote:A growing sense of inequality is undermining trust in both society’s institutions and capitalism, according to a long-running global survey. Lmao they really have no idea what the lived experience of most people has been for the past fifty years. Just continuing to conflate "economic performance" with "improving conditions" for regular people.
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Jun 15, 2021 12:16
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BREAKING: Survey reveals that millennials are not complete morons, have basic pattern recognition
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Jun 15, 2021 12:19
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DarkHorse posted:Anything by Robert Evans is great. BtB has covered L. Ron Hubbard, Cecil Rhodes, Elon Musk, and plenty of other big name assholes. He also goes into depth on the origins of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and the many multiple ways they're bullshit, and why conspiracy theories and conspiricism always seem to fall down that particular anti-Semitic hole. Related, BtB just had a 2 part episode about the Netanyahu family and how Bibi was responsible for the rhetoric that got the previous PM Yitzhak Rabin assassinated (and presumably why the current one already had secret service protection).
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Jun 15, 2021 12:30
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Netanyahu was officially drummed out of power today and went out with a bang. id be amused if this ended with the GOP doing a 180 on Israel because the base projects their hosed up trump feelings onto bibi.
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Jun 15, 2021 12:31
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DarkHorse posted:https://insidermag.net/survey-shows-people-no-longer-believe-working-hard-will-lead-to-a-better-life/ "“The informed public – wealthier, more educated, and frequent consumers of news – remain far more trusting of every institution than the mass population." Yes...the INFORMED public of rich people who live in their bubble. And yet they're oh so shocked that people who don't have money, and don't read the same news sources, don't go to their same country clubs really don't think the same way they do. As you said: they literally just do not get it.
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Jun 15, 2021 12:35
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DarkHorse posted:https://insidermag.net/survey-shows-people-no-longer-believe-working-hard-will-lead-to-a-better-life/ Yeah, they have no idea what Mr. Mouse is going on about. There's no inequality in our gated community, well, except that Bob has gotten an extra-large heated swimming pool. But won't he be surprised when he sees our extra-large extra-deep heated and cooled swimming pool! I have a good friend who sadly is lost (probably forever) to libertarian stupidity and his favorite thing to say is, "You cannot consume more than you produce." I used to just ignore it and let it slide but if you have a friend like this I found the three-word stake for this vampire nonsense. "You cannot consume more than you produce." "Donald Trump, Jr." >blinks slowly< "Well... um... I guess... well, I mean... you know, what I'm saying is... hey let's smoke a bowl!"
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Jun 15, 2021 12:39
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:It always feels nice to see a thing you already know from personal experience backed up by hard data. Along similar lines, a preprint about voter responses to emotional displays by candidates: https://mobile.twitter.com/prof_mirya/status/1404766088328617987 Something I've thought about a fair amount as it comes to the rebellion against  , and the extent to which what is prized in a candidate shapes who can feasibly become that candidate-- who is allowed to be angry? To be passionate? To be plainspoken?
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Jun 15, 2021 13:07
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Without reading the paper yet I have to assume that women also can't laugh off comments from male opponents because it will make them look like dick-shrinking shrews, so basically the only option is to meekly bow your head and say "ok" no matter what wild bullshit a guy throws at you
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Jun 15, 2021 13:19
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-Blackadder- posted:Quick question: Citations Needed is my favorite political podcast and basically deals with liberal media bullshit and how to be more media literate. Plenty of stuff on the Israeli apartheid recently, but they have recent episodes on plenty of other topics as well.
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Jun 15, 2021 13:29
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Failed Imagineer posted:Without reading the paper yet I have to assume that women also can't laugh off comments from male opponents because it will make them look like dick-shrinking shrews, so basically the only option is to meekly bow your head and say "ok" no matter what wild bullshit a guy throws at you Basically. Women don't seem to be punished for being emotional - except when it comes to anger or showing softness on foreign policy/crime/violence issues. Women with lower voice pitches and less aggressive facial expressions or body language are rated more positively. Voters on average will "punish women for anger displays and reward her happiness and general emotional displays." Voters also assess candidates based on existing narratives - so, candidates perceived as "dumb" will be punished more for making a dumb mistake than a candidate who is generally perceived as smart. Female candidates who are perceived as weak or unfriendly are overly penalized for being seen as weak or unfriendly.
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Jun 15, 2021 13:31
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Mind_Taker posted:Citations Needed is my favorite political podcast and basically deals with liberal media bullshit and how to be more media literate. Plenty of stuff on the Israeli apartheid recently, but they have recent episodes on plenty of other topics as well.
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Jun 15, 2021 13:54
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Paracaidas posted:Glad it was appreciated! Found it interesting for similar reasons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yC7-JsR2Fk This is interesting in light of the "Her Opponent" experiment, where they found that making Trump a woman actually made him more sympathetic to the mostly liberal audience.
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Jun 15, 2021 13:58
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You also have examples of politicians like Rashida Tlaib who aren't afraid to be bold and outspoken and have benefited from it.
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Jun 15, 2021 14:03
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-Blackadder- posted:Quick question: Nth-ing BtB. Here's a good series they did regarding the American police force. Behind the Police: Slavery, Mass Murder and the Birth of American Policing Behind the Police: How the First Police Went From Gangsters, To An Army For The Rich Behind the Police: The History of American Police and the Ku Klux Klan Behind the Police: How Police Defeated Lynching Via Torture Behind the Police: How Police Unions Made Cops Even Deadlier Behind the Police: How the Police Declared War On All Of Us
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Jun 15, 2021 14:23
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Velocity Raptor posted:Nth-ing BtB. Here's a good series they did regarding the American police force. They also did a series last summer called Uprising that catalogued the Portland protests (he was there on the ground). Really wide-reaching and eye-opening.
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Jun 15, 2021 14:24
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-Blackadder- posted:Quick question: Congress Two Beers In is my favorite political podcast, but it is released irregularly. It goes a little more into detail on procedure and stuff like that than other podcasts. The hosts have experience as staffers and working at the CRI so they bring some inside knowledge about congressional institutions, their political radar can be off however. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/congress-two-beers-in/id1324650724 Know Your Enemy is more about the intellectual history of various conservative affiliated movements in the US and can be hit or miss but some episodes are fantastic like https://know-your-enemy-1682b684.simplecast.com/episodes/w-john-ganz-XWWhKMrK
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Jun 15, 2021 14:28
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-Blackadder- posted:Quick question: Citations Needed is mandatory since it continues to be increasingly relevant each day. It's real good at presenting a leftist critique of the way the media chooses to present the news for all sorts of topics. FlamingLiberal posted:I tried that one but it was just too dry most of the time for my liking It can get pretty dry for sure (especially when they present their argument at the beginning of the episode and repeat a lot of it later in the episode with their guest) but on the flip side I feel like that dryness can make it a more palatable listen for people whose main sources of news is CNN/MSNBC/etc. Srice fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Jun 15, 2021 |
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Jun 15, 2021 14:30
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JordanKai posted:Christ, did John Stewart really boost that nonsense Project Veritas story back in the day? That sucks. He also entirely endorsed the lab leak on national television, and there has been zero blowback to his social media unlike others pushing conspiracy theories.
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Jun 15, 2021 15:02
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Nonsense posted:He also entirely endorsed the lab leak on national television, and there has been zero blowback to his social media unlike others pushing conspiracy theories. Are you shocked that the lab leak conspiracy is entering the mainstream, even among liberals? Biden took Trump's sinophobic horseshit and promoted it as a real possibility. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57260009
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Jun 15, 2021 15:14
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Yeah, the lab leak theory is making rounds among the liberal olds. My mother is an MSNBC watcher and brought it up. The coincidence of the Wuhan lab is too much for these people to accept. They want it to be a purposeful leak so they can punish someone. It's loving awful and helps nothing. Zoonosis is still the likely cause, but good luck convincing anyone that doesn't want to be.
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Jun 15, 2021 15:17
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You'd hope that people can connect the obvious dots that something might be discovered in a place where they have means to discover it?
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Jun 15, 2021 15:22
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The lab leak theory is catnip for people who want to blame someone else and not face the reality that America's response to a pandemic was a systemic failure on every possible level. And now that it's not Trump or his cronies pushing that conspiracy plenty of liberal folks no longer feel like it's entrenched in racism.
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Jun 15, 2021 15:23
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There is also a difference between a "purposeful" leak and a scenario where the source was the lab or because they brought in a sample, etc. Even the WHO report that China co-wrote says that it is possible, but very unlikely. I think most people arguing it aren't doing it based on the WHO report, though.
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Jun 15, 2021 15:29
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Jon Stewart is a never meet your heroes moment.
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Jun 15, 2021 15:41
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The GOP base has decided they'd rather win by the bullet box than the ballot box. How many of these cowards are going to do something stupid, and how much State government support will they have? https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-georgia-threats EDIT: Yes they're still getting threats in June, and they'll probably work in 2022. TwoQuestions fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Jun 15, 2021 |
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Jun 15, 2021 15:44
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CommieGIR posted:Jon Stewart is a never meet your heroes moment. He seemed pretty cool 10 years ago on the daily show but everytime he comes on Colberts show now he just seems odd.
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Bishyaler posted:Are you shocked that the lab leak conspiracy is entering the mainstream, even among liberals? Biden took Trump's sinophobic horseshit and promoted it as a real possibility. It is a real possibility. It's happened before, multiple times. The question is how that possibility is handled.
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Jun 15, 2021 15:48
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Thom12255 posted:He seemed pretty cool 10 years ago on the daily show but everytime he comes on Colberts show now he just seems odd. That's nostalgia mostly. Stewart did some good things, but he also amplified and platformed some really terrible people.
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Jun 15, 2021 15:49
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Stewart left his show at the right time it seems
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Jun 15, 2021 15:51
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The lab leak theory is impossible to fully disprove so just accept that it'll be a conspiracy theory forever
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:That's nostalgia mostly. Stewart did some good things, but he also amplified and platformed some really terrible people. I don't really get why he did so much stuff with Bill Orielly.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Stewart left his show at the right time it seems yeah. the only late night polilitical stuff i watch is john oliver sometimes, outside that its all podcasts and youtube and poo poo. Heck Yes! Loam! posted:That's nostalgia mostly. Stewart did some good things, but he also amplified and platformed some really terrible people. yeah. he did some genuinely good poo poo but he is a product of his time mixed with going up his own rear end. Colbert is still a cool and good dude though. haveblue posted:The lab leak theory is impossible to fully disprove so just accept that it'll be a conspiracy theory forever i can believe it sorta to the degree of "some dude hosed up and got contaminated and it mixed with poo poo in the wild and thats that, but outside that, i think its probably natural or something.
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Jun 15, 2021 15:55
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Thom12255 posted:I don't really get why he did so much stuff with Bill Orielly. The idea of 'just look how awful this thing/person is. Surely if I act like an adult and point out how awful this is then everyone will see it and agree it is awful.' was extremely strong back then, and was a huge part of his schtick.
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Jun 15, 2021 15:56
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Thom12255 posted:He seemed pretty cool 10 years ago on the daily show but everytime he comes on Colberts show now he just seems odd. Honestly he said some pretty lovely things back then too if you look back on it, like the transphobic jokes he made that I don't have on hand but I'm sure someone has a handy link to Heck Yes! Loam! posted:The idea of 'just look how awful this thing/person is. Surely if I act like an adult and point out how awful this is then everyone will see it and agree it is awful.' was extremely strong back then, and was a huge part of his schtick. It really feels like a lot of people still believe that it's a plan that works and it sucks so much.
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Thom12255 posted:He seemed pretty cool 10 years ago on the daily show but everytime he comes on Colberts show now he just seems odd.
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