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gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
an amoral murder spider is downright quaint compared to the hosed up monsters that comprise the majority of isekai protagonists.

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Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


OnimaruXLR posted:

and yet in spite of it all somehow the man-eating genocidal spider monster still strikes me as being in the better half of the isekai protagonist spectrum when it comes to good behavior

hell, tanya's got the same voice actress and is way more shady

don't know about the killing slimes for 300 years witch, tho

Killing slimes for 300 years witch is wholesome, if you ignore the slime genocide. She has a big found family with a minimum of horny and goes on cute adventures.

GhostofJohnMuir
Aug 14, 2014

anime is not good

Omnicrom posted:

At least we aren't meant to see Kumoko as a moral character. She is, at the absolute very best, slightly deranged.

to the point that when part of her mind starts merging with the demon lord, the demon lord seems to become more amoral than she already was

Adder Moray
Nov 18, 2010

Omnicrom posted:

At least we aren't meant to see Kumoko as a moral character. She is, at the absolute very best, slightly deranged.

Literally all of them have some degree of fairly severe mental trauma and extreme coping mechanism, Shun included (his blandness is an enforced affectation. All the "this isn't Japan any more" poo poo he catches from everyone else is warranted because he's actively refusing to acknowledge that fact). The one handling the situation best is, funnily enough, Fae.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

OnimaruXLR posted:

and yet in spite of it all somehow the man-eating genocidal spider monster still strikes me as being in the better half of the isekai protagonist spectrum when it comes to good behavior

hell, tanya's got the same voice actress and is way more shady

don't know about the killing slimes for 300 years witch, tho

Tanya was a sociopathic salaryman in her former life. Like...they're not comparable.

MadMadi
Mar 16, 2012

Good news Human-story haters!! The show is officially caught up to the LN on the Human half.

Edit: I'm dumb. Sorry yall.

MadMadi fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Jun 13, 2021

LostRook
Jun 7, 2013

MadMadi posted:

Good news Human-story haters!! The show is officially caught up to the LN on the Human half.

False.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



MadMadi posted:

Good news Human-story haters!! The show is officially caught up to the LN on the Human half.

I can assure you this is not the case.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
There's a few things that got skipped over I imagine they might revisit soon.

Green Tea Erotica
May 5, 2010

Anything you can do I can do BETTER

MadMadi posted:

Good news Human-story haters!! The show is officially caught up to the LN on the Human half.

I'm not even caught up on the LN and this is wrong. Wut

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

an amoral murder spider is downright quaint compared to the hosed up monsters that comprise the majority of isekai protagonists.

Yeah, it's kind of hard to fault the amoral murder spider when she goes murdering. And she's at least trying to avert an apocalypse, when she's not trying to avoid being murdered by all the beings way above her power level.

grate deceiver
Jul 10, 2009

Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.

Kwyndig posted:

Killing slimes for 300 years witch is wholesome, if you ignore the slime genocide. She has a big found family with a minimum of horny and goes on cute adventures.

I guess only destroying an entire ecosystem is pretty tame for an isekai

narm00
Feb 18, 2006

grate deceiver posted:

I guess only destroying an entire ecosystem is pretty tame for an isekai

Ecosystem's fine, best we can tell; she's been at it for 300 years without any long-term negative impacts to it or the slimes.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

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narm00 posted:

Ecosystem's fine, best we can tell; she's been at it for 300 years without any long-term negative impacts to it or the slimes.

She only killed about 271,002 slimes in that 300 years.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Nemo2342 posted:

She only killed about 271,002 slimes in that 300 years.

So around 3 a day? Sounds kinda lazy to be honest.

Omnicrom
Aug 3, 2007
Snorlax Afficionado


cant cook creole bream posted:

So around 3 a day? Sounds kinda lazy to be honest.

Nemo was off by an order of magnitude, in the first episode they say she kills about 25 a day and calculate she's killed 2,737,500 slimes by the time the series properly gets rolling.

grate deceiver
Jul 10, 2009

Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.

Omnicrom posted:

Nemo was off by an order of magnitude, in the first episode they say she kills about 25 a day and calculate she's killed 2,737,500 slimes by the time the series properly gets rolling.

So starting out with a baseline somewhat similar to a solitary, small-to-medium scavenger and/or opportunistic predator (like raccoon, skunk, weasel, etc.), but taking into acoount much lesser mobility, let's say a slime's population density is 1 per square kilometer. Also tied to low mobility and metabolism, I would guess a fairly low reproduction rate. She must have completely depopulated an area equivalent to a fairly large country, say maybe 2 million square kilometers? Which is equivalent to the area of Mexico or Saudi Arabia. Probably enough to gently caress up an entire ecosystem.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

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Omnicrom posted:

Nemo was off by an order of magnitude, in the first episode they say she kills about 25 a day and calculate she's killed 2,737,500 slimes by the time the series properly gets rolling.

Yeah, it looks like I lost a digit there at the end. I was working off the manga that says she has 10,840,086 xp which should work out to 2,710,021.5 slimes over three years.

AtomikKrab
Jul 17, 2010

Keep on GOP rolling rolling rolling rolling.

Canonically Slimes generally have a very rapid reproduction rate, 3 million or so slimes over 300 years is not anywhere close to depopulation.

thats only really 30000 slimes a year.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

grate deceiver posted:

So starting out with a baseline somewhat similar to a solitary, small-to-medium scavenger and/or opportunistic predator (like raccoon, skunk, weasel, etc.), but taking into acoount much lesser mobility, let's say a slime's population density is 1 per square kilometer. Also tied to low mobility and metabolism, I would guess a fairly low reproduction rate. She must have completely depopulated an area equivalent to a fairly large country, say maybe 2 million square kilometers? Which is equivalent to the area of Mexico or Saudi Arabia. Probably enough to gently caress up an entire ecosystem.

The basis for slime in video games is moss and mold. If you scrub 25 mold spots a day for 300 years you still haven't gotten good headway on the mold population.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

grate deceiver posted:

So starting out with a baseline somewhat similar to a solitary, small-to-medium scavenger and/or opportunistic predator (like raccoon, skunk, weasel, etc.), but taking into acoount much lesser mobility, let's say a slime's population density is 1 per square kilometer. Also tied to low mobility and metabolism, I would guess a fairly low reproduction rate. She must have completely depopulated an area equivalent to a fairly large country, say maybe 2 million square kilometers? Which is equivalent to the area of Mexico or Saudi Arabia. Probably enough to gently caress up an entire ecosystem.
Think of something more akin to squirrels, where you aren't driving them extinct no matter how hard you try.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Wg9CqOXuk

grate deceiver
Jul 10, 2009

Just a funny av. Not a redtext or an own ok.

Mordaedil posted:

The basis for slime in video games is moss and mold. If you scrub 25 mold spots a day for 300 years you still haven't gotten good headway on the mold population.

That's a good point, I guess I was thinking about each slime as being a distinct enclosed organism, but if it's for example constantly leaving spores or parts of it's body on the ground as it moves, then there could potentially be an unlimited supply of slimes.

Thank you all, I will submit these findings to the Proceedings of the Isekai Academy of Ecology.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

grate deceiver posted:

That's a good point, I guess I was thinking about each slime as being a distinct enclosed organism, but if it's for example constantly leaving spores or parts of it's body on the ground as it moves, then there could potentially be an unlimited supply of slimes.

Thank you all, I will submit these findings to the Proceedings of the Isekai Academy of Ecology.

Newest findings suggest that slimes posses a soul, capable of aggregating into spirits. Some are also sapient and study magic or martial arts.

ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009
And we've been aware of the existence of Goo-d slimes since 1990.

Eyre Kneed
Jul 1, 2008

"Elf forest" lol. This was a really bad scene, ngl. The tiling pattern, the lack of shadows on the 2D characters, the desert in the middle of the forest.

Rudoku
Jun 15, 2003

Damn I need a drink...


It's a forest of sand. Elves are weird about that.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

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Eyre Kneed posted:

"Elf forest" lol. This was a really bad scene, ngl. The tiling pattern, the lack of shadows on the 2D characters, the desert in the middle of the forest.



Try not to miss the forest for the desert.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
The background being what it is is really disappointing.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
Shouldn't of been that hard to at least change up the tile pattern on the ground.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Kung Food posted:

Shouldn't of been that hard to at least change up the tile pattern on the ground.

If Shirobako taught me anything, it's that they were probably on a really tight deadline and any change was impossible past a certain point.

Maxwell Adams
Oct 21, 2000

T E E F S

Eyre Kneed posted:

"Elf forest" lol. This was a really bad scene, ngl. The tiling pattern, the lack of shadows on the 2D characters, the desert in the middle of the forest.



Just realized that the characters on the right don't even have shadows.

Why did they even do that scene? Just so they could end the episode with a sword clash between Shun and Hugo? That's how the previous episode ended. They should spend more time explaining things, like why a demon army, led by Ariel, was approaching the elf village, only for a human army led by Hugo to attack the elf village.

Also Shun looks like a dork in that helmet.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
The decision makes sense given the context but is a result of a whole string of other decisions.

Maxwell Adams
Oct 21, 2000

T E E F S
I double checked that scene, the characters on the right are 2d sprites.

https://i.imgur.com/vGMP8Ch.mp4

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
lmao, they did the rotation over static 2d images which did not rotate along with it. deliberately!

Arrgytehpirate
Oct 2, 2011

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



I’ll be honest I didn’t pay attention after Kumoko died

logger
Jun 28, 2008

...and in what manner the Ancyent Marinere came back to his own Country.
Soiled Meat

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

lmao, they did the rotation over static 2d images which did not rotate along with it. deliberately!

It looks as janky as Poochie going back to his home planet except it is somehow worse with the 3D background and floor.

Adder Moray
Nov 18, 2010

Maxwell Adams posted:

They should spend more time explaining things, like why a demon army, led by Ariel, was approaching the elf village, only for a human army led by Hugo to attack the elf village.
You mean the Demon Army whose 9th division general took down the barrier, allowing the human army to attack the Elf Village?

The Demon Army whose Demon Lord was playing telepathic telephone with Sophia 8 episodes back?

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Adder Moray posted:

You mean the Demon Army whose 9th division general took down the barrier, allowing the human army to attack the Elf Village?

The Demon Army whose Demon Lord was playing telepathic telephone with Sophia 8 episodes back?

It was the 10th army general that took down the barrier, the girl that killed Julius.

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Doodles
Apr 14, 2001

Nitrousoxide posted:

It was the 10th army general that took down the barrier, the girl that killed Julius.

Yeah. And with a Rot attack. Who else used those? :thunk:

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