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TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

Pikey posted:

My first project is finished! Its hella janky, I would have done a dozen things differently if I did it again (like sourcing proper size maple boards instead of laminating 1x4s to make "2x4"s), and I have no idea if its going to hold up over time as I think there's more tension in the glue ups than there should be. But I designed it from nothing and made it with a contractor grade table saw while learning a ton in the process.





One thing I noticed today is that I can feel the seams between the boards in the side panels, where a week or two ago it was buttery smooth and even. Its been fully assembled and sanded down for the past week or two so I don't know if there's tension in the glue-up making the seams more prominent over time or there's a change in humidity doing it (its been in the garage the entire time). Any ideas as to why the seams would go from perfectly smooth to just being able to feel them?

That looks great! And I think so long as you aren't hammering on the underside of the top, it'll be perfectly strong. The miter joints are the only thing I'd be at all worried about there, but since they won't be put in tension from normal use, I very much doubt you'll have any problems. The mortise and tenon joints holding the legs to the lower shelf will hold everything together just fine.

As for being able to feel the seams: your fingers are able to detect extremely small variations in surfaces, like less than a thousandth of an inch. I would blame humidity changes.

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That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Pikey posted:

My first project is finished! Its hella janky, I would have done a dozen things differently if I did it again (like sourcing proper size maple boards instead of laminating 1x4s to make "2x4"s), and I have no idea if its going to hold up over time as I think there's more tension in the glue ups than there should be. But I designed it from nothing and made it with a contractor grade table saw while learning a ton in the process.





One thing I noticed today is that I can feel the seams between the boards in the side panels, where a week or two ago it was buttery smooth and even. Its been fully assembled and sanded down for the past week or two so I don't know if there's tension in the glue-up making the seams more prominent over time or there's a change in humidity doing it (its been in the garage the entire time). Any ideas as to why the seams would go from perfectly smooth to just being able to feel them?

Looks really good! You should be proud of that, I would be.

For the ridges, how long was the wood in the garage before you cut it and how different is the humidity inside vs the garage?

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



A Wizard of Goatse posted:

yeah I really miss the days when Etsy was the place to buy hosed-up looking dolls some lady felted out of cat hair and not just a worse AliExpress

first coat of finish in and the sycamore's popping more than I expected:


Yowza. How many boards width there, 2 total? Old school.

Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




Been working on a replacement rudder for my friend’s sailboat




I know I need to coat the epoxy in poly to protect it from uv— should I buy using spar eurethane instead of polyeurethane for this?

Pikey
Dec 25, 2004

That Works posted:

Looks really good! You should be proud of that, I would be.

For the ridges, how long was the wood in the garage before you cut it and how different is the humidity inside vs the garage?

The pieces were in my garage for ~2 months in total in various stages of construction and I only brought it into the house to take pictures in better light. I’m in Northern California which is in crazy drought so I don’t think humidity has changed all that much.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Mr. Mambold posted:

Yowza. How many boards width there, 2 total? Old school.

it's just one huge 18" wide plank, soon as I got it I knew I had to do something like this with it

extravadanza
Oct 19, 2007
Hey woodworking thread. I'm still pretty new at this and I'm trying to cut out a 4ft long 1/2 inch wide strip in some wood paneling to put an LED channel in. Would I be better served trying to do this with a router + edge guide or just going at it with a jig saw + drill bit as a starter hole. The paneling is about 1/2 inch thick and the slot will go all the way through the wood.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


extravadanza posted:

Hey woodworking thread. I'm still pretty new at this and I'm trying to cut out a 4ft long 1/2 inch wide strip in some wood paneling to put an LED channel in. Would I be better served trying to do this with a router + edge guide or just going at it with a jig saw + drill bit as a starter hole. The paneling is about 1/2 inch thick and the slot will go all the way through the wood.

either works. Jig saw + edge guide will do a good job if everything is clamped down nicely

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

extravadanza posted:

Hey woodworking thread. I'm still pretty new at this and I'm trying to cut out a 4ft long 1/2 inch wide strip in some wood paneling to put an LED channel in. Would I be better served trying to do this with a router + edge guide or just going at it with a jig saw + drill bit as a starter hole. The paneling is about 1/2 inch thick and the slot will go all the way through the wood.

oh god gently caress doing that with a router, jigsaw all the way

extravadanza
Oct 19, 2007
Yea it's got kinda a flange to cover up any wobblyness of the blade up to like 1/4 inch. Jigsaw seemed easier to me too, but I've never had to do a long run with one and it's easy to zip outside corners with a router.

I'll go with the Jigsaw and maybe clamp on my drywall cutting tool to try to keep the cut straight.

Thanks goons.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

extravadanza posted:

Yea it's got kinda a flange to cover up any wobblyness of the blade up to like 1/4 inch. Jigsaw seemed easier to me too, but I've never had to do a long run with one and it's easy to zip outside corners with a router.

I'll go with the Jigsaw and maybe clamp on my drywall cutting tool to try to keep the cut straight.

Thanks goons.

There's always a dozen different ways to do anything, so pick the one you have the tools for and feel comfortable with.

Inevitably, half way through you'll realize there was yet another way you could have done it that would have been even easier and more accurate.

A jigsaw and fence seems as good as any.

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

So I'm going to finally upgrade the lovely miter gauge that came with my Dewalt table saw. I'm leaning heavily towards the Rockler miter gauge + fence. https://www.rockler.com/rockler-precision-miter-gauge-with-telescoping-fence Any opinions on this? Or on Rockler in general? Never bought from them before.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

for that price you could get the fanciest gauge Incra sells, with a telescoping fence, and have cash to spare. Rockler's stuff in general is perfectly fine, just kinda... stupid expensive for what you get? I feel like their target market is retired dentists who are too old to understand Google and treat their wood shop like their buddies treat their '74 Lamborghini

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Jun 16, 2021

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

we have such posts
to show you




Incra sells at least a $300 miter gauge if not more

Are you mixing up Rockler and Woodpeckers?

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Yeah rockler is fine but you would probably get more bang for your buck by spending the same money on an Incra. I have a pretty basic Incra and it’s fantastic

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

lament.cfg posted:

Incra sells at least a $300 miter gauge if not more

Are you mixing up Rockler and Woodpeckers?

lol fair enough I forgot about the 3/5000

you can still get a significantly fancier Incra gauge for less, though

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jun 16, 2021

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!


Well that one's used. The 1000SE is currently $180 on Rockler and $190 on Amazon. I figured the extra little bells and whistles on the Incra are where the extra $30-40 are going.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Workbench top.



I had insufficient clamps. But I have a Harbor Freight nearby. Now I have sufficient clamps. They might explode the second time I use them, but I only need them to work the first time, so it's fiiiiine.

The lack of anywhere to put anything is getting to me, though. Once the bench is done I can start thinking about places to put all my poo poo. Like all these clamps I have now.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


tracecomplete posted:

Now I have sufficient clamps.

No such thing.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Khizan posted:

No such thing.

*for the moment

Falco
Dec 31, 2003

Freewheeling At Last

tracecomplete posted:

Workbench top.



I had insufficient clamps. But I have a Harbor Freight nearby. Now I have sufficient clamps. They might explode the second time I use them, but I only need them to work the first time, so it's fiiiiine.

The lack of anywhere to put anything is getting to me, though. Once the bench is done I can start thinking about places to put all my poo poo. Like all these clamps I have now.

Is this the Anarchists Workbench? It's been on my list for the past year, and now that lumber is 3x what it was last year, it's not helping with my motivation factor.

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

Falco posted:

Is this the Anarchists Workbench? It's been on my list for the past year, and now that lumber is 3x what it was last year, it's not helping with my motivation factor.

It isn't, no, it's my own design. At least so far as it's "designed". I don't think there are really too many ways to put together a bench according to the limitations I'm dealing with, though, so I'd bet it's probably pretty similar.

My joinery sucks, so I'm doing it all just as half-laps (pre-glue cut-outs in one side of a laminated pair of 2x4 or 2x6) or a mortise and tenon (putting a 2x4 or 2x6 through a hole in three or more laminated pieces). This is the 2x4 laminated top I'm building now, and I'm doing it such that I'll leave mortises through the top for half of the bonded 2x6 legs to go through such that the tabletop rests on the shoulder of the leg and the mortise-and-tenon itself isn't under constant stress--not that I expect it'd be a problem with the amount of glue going into this thing, but no reason to risk it.

I posted a 3D design of it here like a year ago, before I realized that my old house basement would not work as a workshop (and then sold that house and bought this one, where my garage is very workshoppable). I'm shooting footage to do some video stuff about the bench now, too; I kind of want to chart progress from "I have read some stuff and I've done some carpentry work" to wherever I end up, and I'm a videographer in my day job so that will probably be nicer than the builds. :smith:

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
More "fine" woodworking, took left over lumber that was too warped for a deck and made a plant stand to replace the one that was falling apart.



The tops are a little narrow as that's all I had to work with, may replace them with wider boards if it becomes an issue.

Chiasmus
May 17, 2008

Spatulater bro! posted:

Well that one's used. The 1000SE is currently $180 on Rockler and $190 on Amazon. I figured the extra little bells and whistles on the Incra are where the extra $30-40 are going.

FWIW if you have Facebook just set a Marketplace alert for the word "Incra". Gauges pop up for reasonable prices from time to time.

Chiasmus fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Jun 17, 2021

NomNomNom
Jul 20, 2008
Please Work Out
Began working on the top of what will be a new desk for either me or my wife (depends how much she likes it). Some of the boards from my cheap cherry haul from a few weeks ago, they have some character.

ughhhh
Oct 17, 2012

Its janky and rough, but i managed to make myself a small workbench that fits perfectly in a closet in my apartment!





I was wondering what people would suggest to add to such a small workbench (im assuming a vice of some sorts would be a bad idea). Benchdogs on the surface and legs?

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

ughhhh posted:

Its janky and rough, but i managed to make myself a small workbench that fits perfectly in a closet in my apartment!





I was wondering what people would suggest to add to such a small workbench (im assuming a vice of some sorts would be a bad idea). Benchdogs on the surface and legs?

What do you plan to use it for?

NomNomNom
Jul 20, 2008
Please Work Out
A vise is always useful. If you're trying to do it on the cheap some bar clamps through the front work well. See Jay Bates' video on Moxon Vises for details.

ughhhh
Oct 17, 2012

Stultus Maximus posted:

What do you plan to use it for?

mostly for practicing mortise and tenon and dovetail joints with hand tools. But simple things my roommate throws at me to make (shelves, side tables).

Elysium
Aug 21, 2003
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
Add some flip up wings and you can triple the surface area. Of course it won’t be quite as flat and stable as the main surface but it will beat hanging poo poo in the air and will give you a place to put down tools and hardware.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

ughhhh posted:

Its janky and rough, but i managed to make myself a small workbench that fits perfectly in a closet in my apartment!





I was wondering what people would suggest to add to such a small workbench (im assuming a vice of some sorts would be a bad idea). Benchdogs on the surface and legs?

Bench dogs don't seem like they're gonna add much to anything that tall and narrow, any lateral movement and the whole thing's tipping over anyway. I'd worry less about the top for now and get some folding braces or something on the legs to widen the base when it's not stowed in your closet (something like this but upside-down, maybe).

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Build a low Roman bench and huck it in your living room and say it's a coffee table

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


I've decided to make a shave horse mostly out of hewn wood

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Shave horse update

I hand split a 6 foot by 10 inch elm log, and then used a mix of power and hand tools to joint and surface one half to be the bench/seat, and then to make 4 legs out of the other half. I'll try to remember to take a progress picture tomorrow when I go out to shape and stake the legs into it. I'll then make the vise mechanism out of scrap lumber.

Dukes Mayo Clinic
Aug 31, 2009
This feels like the right thread for this:



My wife’s grandmother left her this headboard. The rest of the bed? We don’t ask questions.

I finally have access to my dad’s old workshop space again and I have a wild idea to build the rest of the bed! My concerns are twofold:

1) I’ve never built a bed that didn’t have IKEA written on the box. I’d like this to look nice and match the headboard, which leads us to

2) I suspect this to be walnut. I don’t have a walnut hookup. If I’m going to spend $$$ on material to match I might as well contact Lane directly and ask how to get parts to match.

Is veneering a bedframe going to be hell? Is walnut veneer in sufficient length even available for prices worth the hassle? I’ve veneered tiny boxes for kicks but never anything measured in feet. Is there a better way to go about this?

e: Lane style 628.23 from 1979, but google’s not being much help yet.

Dukes Mayo Clinic fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Jun 20, 2021

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Goosey Lee posted:

This feels like the right thread for this:



My wife’s grandmother left her this headboard. The rest of the bed? We don’t ask questions.

I finally have access to my dad’s old workshop space again and I have a wild idea to build the rest of the bed! My concerns are twofold:

1) I’ve never built a bed that didn’t have IKEA written on the box. I’d like this to look nice and match the headboard, which leads us to

2) I suspect this to be walnut. I don’t have a walnut hookup. If I’m going to spend $$$ on material to match I might as well contact Lane directly and ask how to get parts to match.

Is veneering a bedframe going to be hell? Is walnut veneer in sufficient length even available for prices worth the hassle? I’ve veneered tiny boxes for kicks but never anything measured in feet. Is there a better way to go about this?

It's definitely not walnut, looks like stained white oak to me

As an individual schmo with a few nonspecialist shop tools veneer is kinda a hassle imo, and you're not gonna get an underlying material that's a whole lot cheaper than oak anyway. You couldn't ask for a much easier design to finish out than that headboard, only thing is i don't see how the rails attached - was there some mounting plate that got removed at those holes? Threaded inside?

Meow Meow Meow
Nov 13, 2010
I agree that looks like stained oak and not walnut. My bet is that headboard just bolted to a basic metal frame based on the wear pattern on the legs, there may or may not have been a footboard. Also, I recommend not wasting your time trying to veneer something that big if you don't already have the equipment for it, it will likely be cheaper and easier to just buy a solid hardwood to match it.

Sockser
Jun 28, 2007

This world only remembers the results!




A Wizard of Goatse posted:

there some mounting plate that got removed at those holes? Threaded inside?

Bolted from the outside maybe?

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May
Went back to my new favorite local tree lumberyard. Got $70 worth of quartersawn white oak to start a bed for my daughter (should be enough for the headboard and footboard, can't fit enough for the whole bed in the hatchback).

Also picked up $8 worth of black locust just to play around with. It is really boring looking right now but it's supposed to age into a really beautiful rich brown. Just now I read this article from American Society of Landscape Architects arguing that black locust should be used as a sustainable domestic substitute for ipe. I can believe it, that poo poo is dense. Since osage orange seems to be in short supply, I think black locust will be on my list of things to make adirondack chairs out of.

I am going to have so much goddamn wood by the end of the summer.

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Dukes Mayo Clinic
Aug 31, 2009

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

you're not gonna get an underlying material that's a whole lot cheaper than oak anyway.

Oak I can get! That’s a relief; thanks goons.


1/4” holes, call it 4” square, all the way through, unthreaded. Only the inner set looks like it’s been used much or ever… I’ll have some measuring to do once this lands in the shop.

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