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Yeah, I have some of those old devices laying around I probably just need to get rid of before they go up in flames in whatever drawer they've been chucked into since forever. Like what use do I really realistically have for an old 30GB Zune with a screen that's gone bad? I've been holding onto it with the intention of repairing it for years... I just don't think it's happening.
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Feels like 5G on the 12 is often overlooked. It’s so worth it to have 5G on the phone especially if you are in an urban area where tower congest might be a thing. The difference is between laggy/non-usable data connection and a responsive, low latency fast connection. Also before you say 5G is garbage, seems like 5G is common in most urban area now. Even though the mmwave version is as rare as unicorn and problematic with signal penetration, a lot of tower are using 5G NR/New Radio where they just stack 5G on top of existing LTE bands to provide more bandwidth. This way it’s still using the lower frequencies with similar building penetration abilities, but still provide extra bandwidth and channels for the phones that can use it. Phones with 5G NR would be a much better buy.
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Jun 17, 2021 21:15
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Encrypted posted:Feels like 5G on the 12 is often overlooked. It’s so worth it to have 5G on the phone especially if you are in an urban area where tower congest might be a thing. I loved 5G on my Pixel 5 using Project Fi. Except now that I'm daily driving an iPhone, I can't do that because, for whatever reason, Fi doesn't support 5G on iPhones. Maybe later when the 13 drops?
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Jun 17, 2021 22:54
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Is project fi still good for the money? Mint mobile that uses similar tmobile network has much better deals eg. 15/month for 4gb and 30/month for unlimited. It has 5g enabled too. International roaming doesn't seem to be as big of a draw on dual sim iphones now as you can just use the airalo app to download and activate an esim and buy as much data as you want. Doing dual sim also allow you to make free US calls when you are oversea. Something like the airalo data sim will allow your US sim to open a data tunnel and then essentially using wifi-calling through the airalo mobile data pipe to make and receive free US calls and texts.
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Jun 17, 2021 23:07
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Encrypted posted:Is project fi still good for the money? I read the Fi thread and I'd say probably not. Mint Mobile or if you Have spectrum they have really good cheap service as well.
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Jun 17, 2021 23:10
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Welp. I remember considering fi a while ago but stayed away after readings stories on delayed/failed text delivery or problems with calls. Guess it was good I didn't go down that rabbit hole.
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Jun 17, 2021 23:17
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Fi is okay for me, I haven't had too many bad issues, but now with stuff like Ting offering $25 for their unlimited plan and Mint's $30 plan, I dunno. I've been regularly hitting 2GB on my Flexible Fi plan which translates to $40 + tax/fees. Mint charges 3 months up-front though. Not sure how Ting is, but I heard the cs is much better than Google's. I even moved my mother over to Fi because of how Boost was being crap to her with ads and the website constantly not working right.
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Jun 17, 2021 23:20
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MarcusSA posted:I read the Fi thread and I'd say probably not. Mint Mobile or if you Have spectrum they have really good cheap service as well. I switched from ATT to Xfinity mobile (which I'm pretty sure is exactly the same as Spectrum's service) about two years ago and have no complaints. $45 a month for unlimited. And even though I have Xfinity internet/cable service, the mobile service is a separate bill, so I don't think you even have to be in an Xfinity/Spectrum service location to sign up for the mobile service. I guess having a physical store in the area might be beneficial, but I've done everything online so I can't speak to that.
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Jun 17, 2021 23:21
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You have to have Xfinity services to sign up for Xfinity mobile. You can still retain it if you drop Xfinity internet/tv but they throw on very hefty fees that makes it not worth it. But if you do have Xfinity it’s pretty cheap, Verizon MVNO, and no contract.
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Has anyone else on the iPhone Upgrade Program had a hell of a time trying to just log in to the Citizens One website and check the status of their loan? I'm pretty sure that my loan would have been payed off with my most recent payment, but didn't receive a notification that it was done or anything. When I started the program in 2019 I think they had a different system. Now http://www.citizensoneloan.com/ redirects to https://www.fsdsapps.com/ecs/citizens-one-apple/#!/citizens-one-apple-auth/login. That system looks like it has no record of me, and making an account doesn't seem to have worked. When I called the number at the bottom of screen and selected "give me information about my loan", it said "please contact Apple about your loan" without even taking my loan number or anything. I'm going to try Apple next, but I feel like it shouldn't be this hard! Edit: Ok, so an email from Citizens did eventually arrive it just took a little while. Creating a new account worked, and I think I actually have one more payment. frogbs fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jun 18, 2021 |
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Jun 18, 2021 00:13
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Encrypted posted:Feels like 5G on the 12 is often overlooked. It’s so worth it to have 5G on the phone especially if you are in an urban area where tower congest might be a thing. Uh, what. 5G is worthless and nothing you say here actually gives any reasons to buy a device with it? Congestion during events? Yeah that's gonna be a problem anytime soon. The rest? Might as well use LTE. 4G isn't laggy or non-usable if there's no congestion. And where I am, if there's congestion, it's at the back end.
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I have no idea what people think 5G is or does because everyone saying it's anything but worthless apparently thinks it's inexplicable magic. Apart from the people who say it can fix congestion, which, sure, in NY and Tokyo. In fixed installations I don't hit 4G's limits due to not wanting to spend that much on antennas, and in mobile use cases it's the battery for doing anything requiring that much bandwidth. If you see an improvement, it's either QoS or the ISP failing to install enough towers, some of the biggest metropolises and massive events aside. I've seen properly installed 4G choke once, during a Rammstein concert. You won't feel the 10ms difference in latency (if that). And if you're using bandwidth above what 4G can do in mobile applications... what the gently caress are you doing? No, seriously, what are you doing? I legitimately want to know, it could be the next big thing.
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Jun 18, 2021 00:35
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endlessmonotony posted:thinkin about 5g 
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Jun 18, 2021 00:38
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Too Many Birds posted:cool. i'll check back on the thread a bit later if anyone else chimes in, anywhere i should keep an eye on for sales? i've just been looking at eBay. what carrier are you on? are you down to get on a contract or do you want contract-free? I mean, if you’re down to finance and lock-in to a carrier for a year or two or whatever you can get pretty much any phone you want, often at a pretty steep discount. Having upgraded from a 6 & then refurbished 6S to a 12 Pro in 2020, the shift forward from the old body style to the new one has been really refreshing. If I were upgrading from a 6 an SE would certainly feel really nice but I’d probably try to shoot for a 12 if you can get your carrier to help pay for it somehow. trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Jun 18, 2021 |
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Jun 18, 2021 00:47
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endlessmonotony posted:Uh, what. endlessmonotony posted:I have no idea what people think 5G is or does because everyone saying it's anything but worthless apparently thinks it's inexplicable magic. Apart from the people who say it can fix congestion, which, sure, in NY and Tokyo. 5G does this to people.
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Jun 18, 2021 01:08
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bawfuls posted:I have a 6S that is on it's last legs (cracked screen, second battery deteriorating) and would like to replace it with the SE (I specifically don't want to lose the physical home button, and don't want a larger form factor). I bought a 64 GB SE in November to replace my 6 and love it I would just buy one now. Battery isn’t great but that’s my only gripe
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Jun 18, 2021 01:09
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Did iOS always constantly send/receive system service location data? I just switched phones and I don't remember if I had the status bar icon toggle set to off on my old phone.
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Jun 18, 2021 01:12
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endlessmonotony posted:Uh, what. It's just what I've seen with mint mobile  Here, at the exact same location switching between LTE and 5G  Packet drops and almost 1000ms of latency using LTE  Pretty fast 5G with responsiveness similar to wifi I checked and they were both connected to 1700/2100Mhz, one is band 66 of LTE, other is n66 with 5G. The tower could be deprioritizing LTE mint users due to congestion. But hey, at least I can hop over to 5G and get a better connection. Also the user experience is exactly what that latency was showing, laggy with sites not really loading from time to time on LTE, and everything loads fast and responsive after switching to 5G. I tried multiple times too with similar result/experience. Encrypted fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Jun 18, 2021 |
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Jun 18, 2021 01:22
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Wifi 6 is designed to be much more usable in high congestion areas. Maybe there's some confusion there.
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One thing I've noticed since getting a 5G phone (at least on verizon) when it switches to LTE everything is a lot worse.
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Charles posted:Wifi 6 is designed to be much more usable in high congestion areas. Maybe there's some confusion there. 5G is much better than early LTE in high congestion areas. But then MIMO got common for LTE too so all the difference you see is the ISP cheaping out. Again. And once 5G gets common enough, all the advantage it seems to have vanishes. Well, except in Tokyo.
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endlessmonotony posted:I have no idea what people think 5G is or does because everyone saying it's anything but worthless apparently thinks it's inexplicable magic. Apart from the people who say it can fix congestion, which, sure, in NY and Tokyo. And right now they are deploying 5G NR that stacks on top of existing 4G spectrum and dynamically switches the spectrum between 4G and 5G depending on the client. So yeah users can experience better throughput at the exact same location using exact same frequency by just switching to 5G. I mean we can see similar speed improvement while using similar amount of spectrum/frequency on other things too, like cable internet using DOCSIS 3.1 to cram much more data through the same block of frequency compare to DOCSIS 2.0. Interestingly OFDM channels was also used on DOCSIS 3.1 too.
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endlessmonotony posted:5G is much better than early LTE in high congestion areas. Especially since you can at least switch between LTE and available 5G to see which one suits your needs better, vs getting stuck on LTE
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Jun 18, 2021 01:53
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ZeeBoi posted:Did iOS always constantly send/receive system service location data? I just switched phones and I don't remember if I had the status bar icon toggle set to off on my old phone.
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Jun 18, 2021 02:32
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ZeeBoi posted:Did iOS always constantly send/receive system service location data? I just switched phones and I don't remember if I had the status bar icon toggle set to off on my old phone. Perhaps you had opted out of more of the system services location settings?
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Jun 18, 2021 02:38
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I will say that I had 850mbps download speed on 5Gmm the other day and was blown away. It was in a parking lot so it wasn’t super useful. But it was impressive to see speeds that fast on a cell network.
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endlessmonotony posted:I have no idea what people think 5G is or does because everyone saying it's anything but worthless apparently thinks it's inexplicable magic. Apart from the people who say it can fix congestion, which, sure, in NY and Tokyo. I consistently get around 50 megabits on 4g and around 300 on 5g. That isn’t ‘worthless’. I hotspot my phone to install steam games because it’s literally 10x faster than my home internet connection.
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Either is fine and it is so tower dependant that arguing which is better or worse is futile. 5g does seem to chew my battery like crazy though.
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More like I'm arguing for having the option of using it at all is a good thing. You can still just disable it and go back to LTE if you like that sort of things.
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Nitr0 posted:5g does seem to chew my battery like crazy though. I have 5G forced to on and haven't noticed any battery issues. I don't have mmWave though.
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Won’t see any speed increase until you get to 60% vaccination in your area 
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Jun 18, 2021 08:53
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Something I find hugely hilarious is that the very day I got my Pfizer shot, they turned on a 5g tower near my house and I suddenly had 5g reception at home.
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Jun 18, 2021 13:20
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The Lord Bude posted:Something I find hugely hilarious is that the very day I got my Pfizer shot, they turned on a 5g tower near my house and I suddenly had 5g reception at home. Near your house, in your house, same difference
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I want to make things abundantly clear if you could find a way to turn me into a 5G hotspot with a shot that also prevents me from getting a pandemic disease, sign me the gently caress up.
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Jun 18, 2021 13:36
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Also toss in a free ethernet jack so I can plug my desktop into myself.
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The Lord Bude posted:Something I find hugely hilarious is that the very day I got my Pfizer shot, they turned on a 5g tower near my house and I suddenly had 5g reception at home.
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Events are happening right now, so yeah, that is a problem “soon”.
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I realize that with my iPhone loan being paid off next month my AppleCare+ that was included with the loan will end. I haven't used it at all during the 2 years i've had the phone, so I'd like to get something out of it if I can. My battery health is at 85%, if I bring in my phone to Apple now will they do a free battery replacement, or is that kind of up to the person i'm talking to?
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frogbs posted:I realize that with my iPhone loan being paid off next month my AppleCare+ that was included with the loan will end. I haven't used it at all during the 2 years i've had the phone, so I'd like to get something out of it if I can. My battery health is at 85%, if I bring in my phone to Apple now will they do a free battery replacement, or is that kind of up to the person i'm talking to? the official policy is that they don't do free replacements unless it's at 80% or lower, but if you tell them you're experiencing "unexpected shutdowns" when your battery indicator says you still have a few percent left they will probably do it
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frogbs posted:I realize that with my iPhone loan being paid off next month my AppleCare+ that was included with the loan will end. I haven't used it at all during the 2 years i've had the phone, so I'd like to get something out of it if I can. My battery health is at 85%, if I bring in my phone to Apple now will they do a free battery replacement, or is that kind of up to the person i'm talking to? Generally 80% is the magic number. E,f,b.
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