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Yeah! I hate that new Zealand gently caress! Now here's my 10 page dissertation on why i think What we do in the Shadows is degrading towards vampires and vampire enthusiasts *shits pants*
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Jun 18, 2021 18:52
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Jun 18, 2021 18:54
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Its an eddie Munster cat  He's a werewolf Werecatwolf
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Jun 18, 2021 18:56
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you were suppose to fart now we are gonna get pruned dude,!!
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Jun 18, 2021 18:56
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What if this derail was the sacred timeline
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Jun 18, 2021 18:59
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ShortyMR.CAT posted:Its an eddie Munster cat Sounds like a Variant!
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Jun 18, 2021 19:05
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People keep calling the Variant Lady Loki but that's absolutely Enchantress II, right? Am I crazy in thinking this?
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Jun 18, 2021 19:27
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Polaron posted:People keep calling the Variant Lady Loki but that's absolutely Enchantress II, right? Am I crazy in thinking this? Yes. She said "don't call me that name", not "I'm not Loki". She said "you're me" directly to Loki's face.
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Jun 18, 2021 20:03
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My guess is that she's a combination of the two. She's certainly acting as Lady Loki conceptually, but may have an origin similar to Enchantress as some sort of duplicate or otherwise constructed being. Her crown having one horn broken off (while Loki's has both intact in the trailers) seems like a costume design element that they would include if they want to show that she's only partially Loki.
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Jun 18, 2021 20:07
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Robot Style posted:My guess is that she's a combination of the two. She's certainly acting as Lady Loki conceptually, but may have an origin similar to Enchantress as some sort of duplicate or otherwise constructed being. Her crown having one horn broken off (while Loki's has both intact in the trailers) seems like a costume design element that they would include if they want to show that she's only partially Loki. Isn't the horn thing something from the comics? I have seen images but I don't know the story there. Regardless, yeah, I agree that thematically, at least, they're taking some Enchantress elements. I mean, she's blonde, for one.
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Jun 18, 2021 20:11
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Can't say I understand why the TVA is after her. Really, the true variant was the frost giant sperm that crawled up the incorrect yet chilly fallopian tube.
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Jun 18, 2021 20:14
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XboxPants posted:Isn't the horn thing something from the comics? I have seen images but I don't know the story there. The horn thing is from Agents of Asgard, and it doesn’t look like they took anything from that book story wise. That particulate book was the culmination of over a decade of different books with different writers, and the MCU hasn’t established any of the major point outside of Loki being genderfluid.
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Jun 18, 2021 20:22
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Edmund Lava posted:The horn thing is from Agents of Asgard, and it doesn’t look like they took anything from that book story wise. That particulate book was the culmination of over a decade of different books with different writers, and the MCU hasn’t established any of the major point outside of Loki being genderfluid. I wouldn't say they've really even established Loki as gender-fluid for that matter - at least not Tom Hiddleston's Loki. Has he ever even once turned into a female character even in terms of illusions/duplications? Like did Tom's Loki ever turn into Jane Foster or Natasha Romonoff or Lady Sif to screw with Thor or whatever? I don't remember such a thing happening. We've been told that Loki is genderfluid but outside of the appearance of "Lady" Loki(whose story we have not heard for the moment) we've yet to see any real demonstration of it, at least in my opinion.
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He turns into Sif in The Dark World unless I’m mistaken. EDIT: No, he turns Thor into Sif. My mistake.
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XboxPants posted:Isn't the horn thing something from the comics? I have seen images but I don't know the story there. Also she's enchanting people, which isn't really anything we've seen Loki do without the staff that I can recall. And Loki says at one point "I wouldn't treat me like this".
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The Enchantress is controlling all the Loki variants, who were secretly working together to unseat the true time keepers, Mephisto wearing Loki's Fine Asgardian Leather
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Jun 18, 2021 21:43
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Everyone posted:I wouldn't say they've really even established Loki as gender-fluid for that matter - at least not Tom Hiddleston's Loki. Has he ever even once turned into a female character even in terms of illusions/duplications? Like did Tom's Loki ever turn into Jane Foster or Natasha Romonoff or Lady Sif to screw with Thor or whatever? I don't remember such a thing happening. That’s a fair assessment, I almost didn’t include it for that reason. Mostly just because his paperwork in the trailer says he is, but of course you have to be the type,who would pause and zoom in on it to catch that.
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Jun 18, 2021 21:45
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Can you imagine not having seen FATWS, and this is your introduction the new status quo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_M56nIzX5A Also, props to the costume department for getting Anthony Mackie into a "off-season" version of that outfit.
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Jun 18, 2021 21:53
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My twist prediction is vanilla is that I am not going to bother spoiler tagging it. There never was an ancient time war. The Time-Keepers are actually from the far future and are actually editing the timeline moving backwards to give themselves a desirable present relevant to themselves. The “sacred timeline” actually hasn’t happened yet, and that’s how the writers will get out of negating the free-will of the MCU for the past 10+ years.
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If the Kang theories are correct I could see that happening. It’s pretty much his whole deal. If Kang isn’t involved then I don’t see them having two identical villains running around.
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Speaking of paperwork, apparently there's some offhanded mention of a Sylvie Laufeydottir in one of the reports, so make of that what you will. Presumably that's the name she goes by so they don't have to call her 'Lady Loki' in-universe. Or she's Loki's sister and the variant's going to turn out to be Richard E. Grant as Old Loki. Or all three of them are Loki!
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Yvonmukluk posted:Speaking of paperwork, apparently there's some offhanded mention of a Sylvie Laufeydottir in one of the reports, so make of that what you will. https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Sylvie_Lushton_(Earth-616)
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Marsupial Ape posted:My twist prediction is vanilla is that I am not going to bother spoiler tagging it. There never was an ancient time war. The Time-Keepers are actually from the far future and are actually editing the timeline moving backwards to give themselves a desirable present relevant to themselves. The “sacred timeline” actually hasn’t happened yet, and that’s how the writers will get out of negating the free-will of the MCU for the past 10+ years. It's possible but right now that theory seems to be contradicted by everything else we've been told. That was the whole point of the 3-5 minutes worth of exposition in Endgame on the topic of Back to the Future is a bunch of a bullshit. As far as the Sacred Timeline goes, everyone in it had their normal free will. They made the decisions that they made. Now that I think about it, I think I know the "Sacred Timeline" version of the moment of Loki's escape: Loki is watching what he can recognize as some kind of "Time Heist" by the Avengers going down. Stark grabs the case but is knocked away by Hulk leaving the stairs. The case flies open, the Tesseract tumbles out to stop at Loki's feet... ...and Loki kicks it back toward the 2012 Avengers instead of grabbing it. Why? Several possibilities. Loki knows he's going to be taken to Asgard as a prisoner. But... that's good. He knows Asgard. He knows Asgardians. He knows how to manipulate his family and people. He knows that eventually they'll need him (or he'll be able to convince them that they need him) because gently caress knows they can't figure poo poo out for themselves. So they'll let him loose again and he'll get another chance. Meanwhile, if Thanos and co. feel like trying to make him "long for something as sweet as pain" they can try their luck against the might of Odin, Thor and the rest of Asgard. Which brings up the idea that it might not be the best play to peace out on his ownsome with the thingie that Thanos wants. Because now that he's been away from the staff a little bit, it might occur to Loki that "Y'know I was maybe acting out of character in ways likely to get my rear end killed. I bet that was deliberate on Thanos's part. Also, Loki doesn't know what the deal is with Time-heisting Tony Stark. By foiling their attempted theft here on Earth, Loki might figure that he'd be setting in motion a plot to nab the thing from Asgard. And since Loki would be on Asgard when that happened, he might well be able to turn that to his advantage again. Except that the Loki in this show got a wild hair up his rear end, grabbed the Cube and peaced-out anyway.
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ShortyMR.CAT posted:Yeah! I hate that new Zealand gently caress! Now here's my 10 page dissertation on why i think What we do in the Shadows is degrading towards vampires and vampire enthusiasts Wait - that's it? Waititi wasn't sufficiently respectful to sparkle vampires? L O and may I be very clear here L.
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thrawn527 posted:So question. If the Avengers were supposed to go back in time, but Loki was not supposed to grab the tessaract, and the TVA pruned that timeline, wouldn’t that undo Cap and Tony going back to the 70's to get the tesseract? They went back because Loki took it, but if the timeline is pruned, wouldn’t they not have gone back? Real quick. I haven’t been able to contribute yet and, even though others have responded, I just wanted to lay out the explanation for this. Think of the “Sacred Timeline” from the perspective of the 2012 Avengers. 1) 2012 Tony, Thor, and Loki go to the lobby where SHIELD tries to take the Tesseract 2) Endgame Tony and Lang move in to intercept the Tesseract 3) Endgame Tony grabs it, only to have it knocked out his hands by Hulk crashing through the stairwell door 4) Tesseract get thrown back to 2012 Tony, Thor, and Loki 5) Thor takes Loki and the Tesseract back to Asgard 6) Endgame Tony and Steve go back to the 70’s to get the Tesseract This is how things were supposed to go in the “Sacred Timeline”. Loki hosed everything up between points 4 and 5 when he picked up the Tesseract and zipped to Mongolia. If he had just left it alone, the TVA wouldn’t have had to intervene. Also, regarding apocalypse events, the events have to meet certain criteria, no survivors (as in “no witnesses”), natural (happens suddenly and without warning), and where destruction is complete. Everybody was going to die in that Alabama store, so nobody was going to talk about that weird lady setting up all of this weird tech (no survivors or witnesses). But for Asgard’s destruction or Thanos’ snap, there are witnesses hanging around afterward and the destruction wasn’t complete, so Lady Loki’s presence would cause a nexus event.
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If one of the timekeepers is Kang, the other two will also be Kang.
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fractalairduct posted:If one of the timekeepers is Kang, the other two will also be Kang. Like... a council?
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Yeah I know about her, but looking at the actual paperwork it also IDs Sylvie as 'Frost Giant (Asgardian)' which suggests that name is just a reference unless the TVA misfiled her.
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Red posted:Like... a council? Probably more theater than council. It's probably all one Kang posing as three so people think there's not one single crazy time lizard, but a wise council that spends infinities in deliberation.
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Organic Lube User posted:Probably more theater than council. It's probably all one Kang posing as three so people think there's not one single crazy time lizard, but a wise council that spends infinities in deliberation. The Council of Kangs was a thing in the comics. I'm pretty sure they got in a fight with Immortus, the '616' Kang, or both.
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Yvonmukluk posted:The Council of Kangs was a thing in the comics. Bickering sounds like what you get with a council made up of versions of yourself from different timelines, but if your 'council' is really just you, and then 5 minutes of you from the future, and another 5 minutes of you from the past (or far future - take your pick), you probably don't have the same issues.
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volts5000 posted:Real quick. I haven’t been able to contribute yet and, even though others have responded, I just wanted to lay out the explanation for this. Think of the “Sacred Timeline” from the perspective of the 2012 Avengers. This...makes enough sense to me. Thanks!
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volts5000 posted:Real quick. I haven’t been able to contribute yet and, even though others have responded, I just wanted to lay out the explanation for this. Think of the “Sacred Timeline” from the perspective of the 2012 Avengers. Pretty much. Two things actually occurred to me here. First, Thor and Rocket could have grabbed the Tesseract from Asgard while they were getting the Aether/Reality stone. It was right there in the vault at the time. Second, during Thor: Ragnorak Loki actually did set fire to the palace when he summoned/freed Surtur to destroy Asgard. Organic Lube User posted:Bickering sounds like what you get with a council made up of versions of yourself from different timelines, but if your 'council' is really just you, and then 5 minutes of you from the future, and another 5 minutes of you from the past (or far future - take your pick), you probably don't have the same issues. The TVA really is going to be the Marvel version of the Citadel of Ricks, isn't it? Actually, the Citadel of Ricks was probably inspired by or a parody of the Council of Kangs.
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Everyone posted:The TVA really is going to be the Marvel version of the Citadel of Ricks, isn't it? Actually, the Citadel of Ricks was probably inspired by or a parody of the Council of Kangs. It's a take on the Council of Reeds, as the Reeds built an extradimensional hub for all the various rear end in a top hat versions of himself to get together in. There is only one Reed that isn't a total sociopath in all the multiverse, and it's our Reed. Because of his family. This leaves him only kind of a sociopath. Rick Sanchez is really only a more human and relatable version of Reed.
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During Alan Moore’s in on Supreme, he had the worlds where all the old versions of Supreme and his arch-nemesis Darius Dax went. So the Supremacy had Supreme as a mouse, horse, a giant Supreme, cyborg version, etc. Great book with a lot of Golden and Silver Age Superman riffs.
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Everyone posted:It's possible but right now that theory seems to be contradicted by everything else we've been told. That was the whole point of the 3-5 minutes worth of exposition in Endgame on the topic of Back to the Future is a bunch of a bullshit. I mean, he did think that the Avengers were time-heisting to stop him, so that checks out.
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Everyone posted:The TVA really is going to be the Marvel version of the Citadel of Ricks, isn't it? Actually, the Citadel of Ricks was probably inspired by or a parody of the Council of Kangs. This is obviously part of it, even as a reverse reference, but the Rick & Morty influence on this show. Roiland and Harmon didn't invent the idea of a loner taking on a bizarre sci-fi bureaucracy either but the details feel familiar. The Harmon influence on the MCU actually seems pretty great, with this and Loveless writing Quantumania and also McKenna writing the Spider-Man movies.
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More like the Council of Reed Richards from a Marvel story 10 yrs ago
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