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Niavmai posted:oh boy oh geez do NOT read gunnerkrigg. K6BD has also always been what it is, and as much as I'll miss it once it ends, it beats the idea of the cavalcade of goonery moaning about it, too.
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Bell_ posted:in the last six months or so my dude, i am sorry that you are upset about people expressing their opinions, but 6 months of a tri-weekly comics updates being bad is okay to be kinda mad and goony about. also it was a joke. a very good one. excellent joke maker here.
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Niavmai posted:oh boy oh geez do NOT read gunnerkrigg. was going to make a "dad bad" joke here too
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Jun 18, 2021 21:54
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Jesus loving christ Girl Genius has been going on for twenty years straight.
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Grouchio posted:Jesus loving christ Girl Genius has been going on for twenty years straight. When the sun burns down into a cinder, we still won't really know that the deal is with Lucretia and the Other.
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Jun 18, 2021 22:22
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Niavmai posted:oh boy oh geez do NOT read gunnerkrigg.
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NGDBSS posted:What happened there? I stopped reading years ago, IIRC just after Antimony got a haircut. The whole thing is about how great her abusive dad is now.
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NGDBSS posted:What happened there? I stopped reading years ago, IIRC just after Antimony got a haircut. Tic Tocs are done, forever. There were two Annies for a while because of a divine prank. Zimmy just casually merged them. People are kind of losing faith in anything having a satisfying resolution. Even Tony being an awful dad basically had a resolution that was "Actually, it's fine like this".
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Jun 19, 2021 01:24
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I jumped ship after the casual merge. Things were starting to have an unpleasant echo of that one page joke chapter where Annie goes to rescue Renard from her dad and he just hands him to her.
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Jun 19, 2021 02:19
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maswastaken posted:People are kind of losing faith in anything having a satisfying resolution. Even Tony being an awful dad basically had a resolution that was "Actually, it's fine like this". I'm still really hopeful that it will have a great ending! I just no longer feel the need to check on it every update anymore.
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Honestly it's kinda making me wonder if Tom is getting burned out or has some other reason he wants to stop Gunnerkrigg. It seems like he's trying to ty up plot arcs quickly so he can get to a finale
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Jun 19, 2021 03:31
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kinda doubt it, from talks he's done and that youtube series where he explains some of what he was thinking about each chapter it sounds like he's had everything mapped out from the beginning maybe though
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Grouchio posted:Jesus loving christ Girl Genius has been going on for twenty years straight. Pretty sure Outsider has been running just as long and we finally got to a point where the author can give us more than 1 chapter a year. 
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Yeah I was a Gunnerkrigg defender for a long time but it really feels like every interesting part of the setting is being systematically removed. Handwaving away her dad's abuse is just the cherry on top.
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Mimesweeper posted:kinda doubt it, from talks he's done and that youtube series where he explains some of what he was thinking about each chapter it sounds like he's had everything mapped out from the beginning That's pretty much it, it feels like there was a solid plan there but each beat was rushed. Annie learning to live with herself -> Zimmy fusions her again -> now more grounded and at peace Annie forgives her father, uses her hardwon insights to help guide Loup through their obvious trauma (or trick him, kick his rear end, whatever) isn't a bad arc, but its resolution seems way too fast. There was more lead-up to "Let's fight a murderghost because I feel bad about it" then "Annie resolves her father issues" Anyway this is the wrong thread for this Xand_Man fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Jun 19, 2021 |
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oh, lol. didn't even realize where i was posting
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YISUN https://twitter.com/gods_txt/status/1404439215102906369?s=19
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i still read gunnerkrigg court these days and i have no clue what you people are on about
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fwiw my read on the poo poo with annie's dad was less handwaving away abuse and more just coming to terms with her dad being terrible but acknowledging she still loves him. i don't think it was written as well as it could have been but it's the kind of thing i struggle to put into words with my therapist, let alone a narrative read by thousands of folks.
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Mimesweeper posted:kinda doubt it, from talks he's done and that youtube series where he explains some of what he was thinking about each chapter it sounds like he's had everything mapped out from the beginning Maybe that map would explain why it feels like characters are constantly being led around by the nose by The Plot and have little volition or goals of their own.
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as a games forums poster first and foremost i'm tossing "thank god goons don't write gunnerkrigg court" in the bucket i keep my "thank god goons didn't design doom eternal" and "thank god goons didn't design sekiro" posts in
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Trebuchet King posted:fwiw my read on the poo poo with annie's dad was less handwaving away abuse and more just coming to terms with her dad being terrible but acknowledging she still loves him. i don't think it was written as well as it could have been but it's the kind of thing i struggle to put into words with my therapist, let alone a narrative read by thousands of folks. In all honesty, I agree with Jagganoth's general conceit on how it was working out in the comic, reading it by an update-by-update basis.  We knew her opinion of him wasn't going to change. The entire chapter felt superfluous. Weirdly enough, I feel like Kill Six Billion Demons has a tiny bit of that problem right now, but in the other direction. Abbadon's talented enough that his art and the combat makes this incredibly engaging to read, but we haven't really gotten anywhere in... however long this has been going down. They're up in the air, sure, and Jagganoth and Alison have changed forms, but we haven't seen anybody die, get significantly injured, or anything that seems like it's about to draw this fight to a conclusion. Heck, Jagganoth's the only one with any potentially battle-changing battle damage so far. I know on Twitter that Abbadon's taking a break and that this fight will start to reach its conclusion after this, and while I'm definitely going to miss the spectacle of the fight, I'm also going to be happy to see something radically change.
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Dammerung posted:
I think you're right - I hope it ends soon, not because it hasn't been great, but because after this splash page, the round of the fight will have said what it needs to. Either the demiurges can bring Jagganoth to the ground, or they can't, and the story moves on. The spectacle is great but it shouldn't outstay its welcome; the same was true in the tournament in King of Swords. I'm pretty confident the pacing of this fight works well at book-speed rather than weekly-webcomic-speed, though, so I'm content with it.
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Cowcaster posted:as a games forums poster first and foremost i'm tossing "thank god goons don't write gunnerkrigg court" in the bucket i keep my "thank god goons didn't design doom eternal" and "thank god goons didn't design sekiro" posts in goons not liking a thing is usually a pretty good indicator that it's actually good
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The majority of Gunnerkrigg is extremely good. I'm still probably going to finish reading it at some point. I've just become much less confident that the author is able to conclude things in a way that I find satisfying.
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Dammerung posted:Weirdly enough, I feel like Kill Six Billion Demons has a tiny bit of that problem right now, but in the other direction. Abbadon's talented enough that his art and the combat makes this incredibly engaging to read, but we haven't really gotten anywhere in... however long this has been going down. They're up in the air, sure, and Jagganoth and Alison have changed forms, but we haven't seen anybody die, get significantly injured, or anything that seems like it's about to draw this fight to a conclusion. Heck, Jagganoth's the only one with any potentially battle-changing battle damage so far. I know on Twitter that Abbadon's taking a break and that this fight will start to reach its conclusion after this, and while I'm definitely going to miss the spectacle of the fight, I'm also going to be happy to see something radically change. Conversely, if any of the demiurges had dropped before we even got to Jagg's 2nd form it would trivialize their whole status as "God's of the seven part world" so I expect anyone to bit the dust to do so in the upcoming pages or more likely off-screen in whatever timeskip is like 90% likely to happen. A serious injury should also spell death to anyone at this point since even before unleashing his beach shorts, Jagganoth was going for the kills. But this is someone's last stand in my mind as well as the Big drat fight to kick off whatever resolution we have coming up. Mottom almost bought the farm earlier and she's positively glowing right now. mammon is also not that great a fighter so those two are likely to not be present in the future. I don't see Gog or Incubus not being in the future and we understand from the cover Jadis is probably coming out of her hypercube. Only wild card is Solomon who is the best fighter besides Jagganoth but got a lot of recent development so if he dies it sets up White Chain's whole deal with the War for Rabuya and if he's crippled or otherwise leaves that serves the same end.
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I wonder if, in all 777,777 universes, there is a single webcomics thread that hasn't become a Gunnerkrigg Problems threadJoe Slowboat posted:I think you're right - I hope it ends soon, not because it hasn't been great, but because after this splash page, the round of the fight will have said what it needs to. Either the demiurges can bring Jagganoth to the ground, or they can't, and the story moves on. Agreed, and it looks like the fighters are basically maxed out, so outside some DBZ-style hidden true forms thing I think this should conclude in a minute.
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Brought To You By posted:Conversely, if any of the demiurges had dropped before we even got to Jagg's 2nd form it would trivialize their whole status as "God's of the seven part world" so I expect anyone to bit the dust to do so in the upcoming pages or more likely off-screen in whatever timeskip is like 90% likely to happen. A serious injury should also spell death to anyone at this point since even before unleashing his beach shorts, Jagganoth was going for the kills. But this is someone's last stand in my mind as well as the Big drat fight to kick off whatever resolution we have coming up. I dunno, it feels like Jagganoth being unable to do serious damage to anybody is trivializing his status as the Destroyer of the Wheel a little more? I'm hoping that things will change, but him striking somebody like Mammon full force like he did in 2-53 without Mammon showing any damage reminds me more of Dragonball fights where massive explosions and beams usually just mean somebody's going to lose some clothing. We've already hyped up the Demiurges, darn it!
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Dammerung posted:I dunno, it feels like Jagganoth being unable to do serious damage to anybody is trivializing his status as the Destroyer of the Wheel a little more? I'm hoping that things will change, but him striking somebody like Mammon full force like he did in 2-53 without Mammon showing any damage reminds me more of Dragonball fights where massive explosions and beams usually just mean somebody's going to lose some clothing. We've already hyped up the Demiurges, darn it! He's facing seven-to-one odds against the other most powerful entities in the universe, and it's a draw. That seems like enough to sell him as a pretty big deal.
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Darth Walrus posted:He's facing seven-to-one odds against the other most powerful entities in the universe, and it's a draw. That seems like enough to sell him as a pretty big deal. But he's the Destroyer of the Wheel, though, not the Stalemater of the Wheel. I know things are about to change, and I'm glad for it, because Solomon still hasn't even lost a drop of blood yet.
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I think all the demiurges will survive. If there is a conclusion it will be reached not through violence and death. Alison isn't gonna deus-ex her way out of this through sheer force and will, something else will break the wheel and i'm excited to see how it plays out. Hell, Jadis is still in a cube and if the chapter title page is any indication she finds resolution. I have faith in Abbadon for crafting an interesting and satisfactory ending to this comic. So far he's shown remarkable skill in both art and story. Goons need to have some faith man.
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I literally have no real prediction for K6BD and I love it.skaianDestiny posted:Gunnerkrigg Court was good but the two Annies thing was part of what got my attention back after I dropped for a couple years but now that's gone and I'm pretty unhappy with how Tony is being handled so This and I thought the Tic Toc resolution was a bit of a wet fart.
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I wonder if at some point Zoss is going to try to turn the wheel again only for Allison to stop him.
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Draadnagel posted:I think all the demiurges will survive. If there is a conclusion it will be reached not through violence and death. Alison isn't gonna deus-ex her way out of this through sheer force and will, something else will break the wheel and i'm excited to see how it plays out. Hell, Jadis is still in a cube and if the chapter title page is any indication she finds resolution. Of course! I'm anxious to see where it goes, even if I'm not absolutely happy with everything. Because this is it, and I've been waiting for this, and it's gonna be so loving cool once pieces start settling. More than anything else, I want to see Alison somehow break through the infinite monstrosity that Jagganoth has become, the Lord of Rocks, and find/save the traumatized man he once was. Or whatever happens, really. ChaseSP posted:I wonder if at some point Zoss is going to try to turn the wheel again only for Allison to stop him. This is a really interesting thought process, and now you've got me curious too. He seems to be doing everything he can to urge Alison not to be like him, and it'd be pretty interesting if Alison's main power was the ability to help people overcome their worst natures. Sort of like she's done for the Demiurges so far.
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I believe Zoss is as much if a slave as it's master as everyone else is, only for him to realize and try to break away only to fail time and time again due to the inescapable knowledge that he can freely try again should this time fail and this is his own trap he needs to be broken out of
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Dammerung posted:This is a really interesting thought process, and now you've got me curious too. He seems to be doing everything he can to urge Alison not to be like him, and it'd be pretty interesting if Alison's main power was the ability to help people overcome their worst natures. Sort of like she's done for the Demiurges so far. 'Sort of' is doing a lot of work in this sentence, lol. All the demiurges are still the same massive assholes. they have, just for a moment, a different motivation than just maintaining the status quo. I hope Zoss and the concordance of angels show up and get hosed by the combined might of 7 very pissed of demiurges, a noodle lover and 1 barista/angel/fanfic writer.
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Dammerung posted:But he's the Destroyer of the Wheel, though, not the Stalemater of the Wheel. I know things are about to change, and I'm glad for it, because Solomon still hasn't even lost a drop of blood yet. What makes you think he's anything but a pretender Destroyer of the Wheel when he's already spent however many iterations explicitly and emphatically failing to do that? 
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Draadnagel posted:'Sort of' is doing a lot of work in this sentence, lol. All the demiurges are still the same massive assholes. they have, just for a moment, a different motivation than just maintaining the status quo. Admittedly, yes, but I have faith that they will change! Instead of Killing Six Billion Demons, we can save... 11 lost people? I guess that's not quite as striking a comic title. Captain Oblivious posted:What makes you think he's anything but a pretender Destroyer of the Wheel when he's already spent however many iterations explicitly and emphatically failing to do that? He's got a cool war hammer this time! ...where'd the war hammer go? I'm choosing to believe that it's waaaaaaay back there, between arms 71 and four million or something.
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Dammerung posted:Admittedly, yes, but I have faith that they will change! Instead of Killing Six Billion Demons, we can save... 11 lost people? I guess that's not quite as striking a comic title. honestly, I can only agree with this Zoss and Metatron can still get merc'd though.
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