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pun pundit
Nov 11, 2008

I feel the same way about the company bearing the same name.

If we go by Kumoko's judgement they would taste delicious too, because of anime protagonist beauty bonus.

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Nephthys
Mar 27, 2010

At this point I'm hoping the Kumon Lord gets to meet Shun before the season ends just so she can beat his rear end and knock some sense into him. Also it'd be funny to see Fei meet Kumoko and try to apologise only for Kumo to barely remember her.

I'm on Team Demon all the way, everyone knows science is always evil in fantasy stories.

Omnicrom
Aug 3, 2007
Snorlax Afficionado


So I note that the credits officially stopped being coy, "white" is now officially credited as being voiced by Yuki Aoi and has her credit at the top of the cast list where Kumoko usually goes.

As for the episode proper, that really did not look very good…

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


XboxPants posted:

They should have just had Fei, the largest of the reincarnations, simply eat the other reincarnations mid-battle for sweet, juicy human XP

that might have worked

Since exp is based on how many skills you have, and reincarnation have the Most Skills, it probably would have worked. It did annoy me that Fei did absolutely zero fighting though.

Tamba
Apr 5, 2010

Omnicrom posted:

So I note that the credits officially stopped being coy, "white" is now officially credited as being voiced by Yuki Aoi and has her credit at the top of the cast list where Kumoko usually goes.

As for the episode proper, that really did not look very good…

I think it's because they had no other choice. Kumoko had no lines in this episode and leaving a voice actor uncredited in an episode simply does not happen.
Only mentioning some roles and omitting others is fine though, as long as they get credited at least once (source: The Konosuba radio show, where that topic came up once)

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Tamba posted:

I think it's because they had no other choice. Kumoko had no lines in this episode and leaving a voice actor uncredited in an episode simply does not happen.
Only mentioning some roles and omitting others is fine though, as long as they get credited at least once (source: The Konosuba radio show, where that topic came up once)


Do song credits not count for that?

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD
Isn't next week the season finale? I hope the spotlight on team Shun is minimal and they instead focus on Kumoko and Ms. demon lord's fight. Would suck to end the season with more X-Arm tier cgi fights between characters no one cares about.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Kung Food posted:

Isn't next week the season finale? I hope the spotlight on team Shun is minimal and they instead focus on Kumoko and Ms. demon lord's fight. Would suck to end the season with more X-Arm tier cgi fights between characters no one cares about.

Correct, it is the last episode next week.

But then again, Kumoko loving DIED in her last fight with Ariel, so what else could they show?

Maxwell Adams
Oct 21, 2000

T E E F S
That last episode should have been directed with Sophia as the protagonist. Just have Shun over there in the middle distance, stomping his feet and waving his sword around as he does his hero speeches.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Nitrousoxide posted:

Correct, it is the last episode next week.

But then again, Kumoko loving DIED in her last fight with Ariel, so what else could they show?

Her spooky ghost?

(You know Kumoko would wear a sheet as a ghost, complete with a bunch of eyeholes.)

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.

chiasaur11 posted:

Her spooky ghost?

(You know Kumoko would wear a sheet as a ghost, complete with a bunch of eyeholes.)

This was the uniform of the 10th demon army in the original webnovel. The looked like "a certain secret society", but they changed it.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Uhhhhhh :yikes:

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



VictualSquid posted:

This was the uniform of the 10th demon army in the original webnovel. The looked like "a certain secret society", but they changed it.

The 10th army had white uniforms, but it's not like they were hooded KKK robes.

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.

Nitrousoxide posted:

The 10th army had white uniforms, but it's not like they were hooded KKK robes.
I didn't say that, and now you made me hunt down the original text:

quote:

Having them wear uniformly white clothes that cover the whole body, when the soldiers stand in line, they look like a gathering of some kind of dubious secret organisation

Rereading that makes me really wish those parts get adapted eventually, and not just because those dialogue heavy parts should come easier for the current team.

VictualSquid fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Jun 20, 2021

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice
I think that's more of a reference to Re;Zero?

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



The final episode's release has been delayed due to production issues.

A nice way to cap off this show's run with this studio.

https://twitter.com/kumoko_anime/status/1407987676557418499?s=20

kittenchops
Jul 24, 2013

I hope that results in a better quality for the last episode. Didn't part 5 of Jojo do the same thing? I recall they showed the last two episodes on a Saturday a month after the season ended.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



kittenchops posted:

I hope that results in a better quality for the last episode. Didn't part 5 of Jojo do the same thing? I recall they showed the last two episodes on a Saturday a month after the season ended.

What's wild to me is only now has an episode failed their quality checks or failed to meet a milestone. Like those other human-centric episodes passed and were good to go out the door.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


I think it’s more like they flew too close to the sun with that last one.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Maybe Okina Baba actually watched the last couple of episodes and was like "what the gently caress are you guys doing?"

Adder Moray
Nov 18, 2010
One hopes this is a matter of the episode being up to the "standards" of last episode and them deciding that's not good enough as opposed to it being worse than that or just not finished at all.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

kittenchops posted:

I hope that results in a better quality for the last episode. Didn't part 5 of Jojo do the same thing? I recall they showed the last two episodes on a Saturday a month after the season ended.

I know this happened with GuP

Justin_Brett
Oct 23, 2012

GAMERDOME put down LOSER
Really dragging out the last thing everybody wanted to see, huh?

pun pundit
Nov 11, 2008

I feel the same way about the company bearing the same name.

Welp, off to the LNs now rather than later, then.

Raenir Salazar
Nov 5, 2010

College Slice

Nitrousoxide posted:

Maybe Okina Baba actually watched the last couple of episodes and was like "what the gently caress are you guys doing?"

IIRC I think this depends, sometimes the writer doesn't get much say about how the adaption is going. Then the fact that businesses in Japan operate on a glacial pace it can be difficult for communication to work its way between the different parties.

kittenchops
Jul 24, 2013

pun pundit posted:

Welp, off to the LNs now rather than later, then.

:same:

I started LN1 a few days ago, I'm enjoying it so far. The human side seems more fleshed out than in the anime.

Maxwell Adams
Oct 21, 2000

T E E F S

Justin_Brett posted:

Really dragging out the last thing everybody wanted to see, huh?

Maybe they saw how the manga did it, and the, ah, mixed reactions it got.

pun pundit posted:

Welp, off to the LNs now rather than later, then.

This is a good idea. Do not look at the covers when you're buying them, you'll get huge spoilers. Even searching for them on Amazon can show you thumbnails that you shouldn't see.

Captain_duck
Dec 3, 2005

I swear nice bushes!

Nitrousoxide posted:

The final episode's release has been delayed due to production issues.

A nice way to cap off this show's run with this studio.

https://twitter.com/kumoko_anime/status/1407987676557418499?s=20

What does this exactly say? Are all those dates airdates or something? So it was just delayed one day?

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Captain_duck posted:

What does this exactly say? Are all those dates airdates or something? So it was just delayed one day?

The machine translation of the post says

Episode 24 Notice of Broadcast Postponement]
Episode 24, which was scheduled to be broadcast and distributed sequentially from June 25 (Friday), has been postponed due to production progress.
We will make you wait for everyone who is enjoying it, but we will adjust the broadcast frame again so that we can deliver it.

Justin_Brett
Oct 23, 2012

GAMERDOME put down LOSER
Those are I believe when it would have aired going by the time difference, since they're all really late on Friday.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

According to a (machine translated) tweet from a guy who works for the 3d studio, it sounds like the problem is roughly what we guessed: The 3d studio has been occupied in the last few episodes make 3D versions of scenes that were planned to be 2D (either because some work was lost or because it was not suitable, it's not clear?) and they fell behind on the last episode.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Bobulus posted:

According to a (machine translated) tweet from a guy who works for the 3d studio, it sounds like the problem is roughly what we guessed: The 3d studio has been occupied in the last few episodes make 3D versions of scenes that were planned to be 2D (either because some work was lost or because it was not suitable, it's not clear?) and they fell behind on the last episode.

Talking about this guy?

https://twitter.com/naoyafukushi/status/1408360963300945921

My read from the translation was that the 3d studio was focusing efforts on blu ray revisions and fell behind on the broadcast version.

I don't see this guy in any of the English sites as having any credits for a Spider project, though that doesn't mean that he didn't, since they will often times not be exhaustive in pulling the credits for folks who aren't the VA's or directors. He does say he's involved in the twitter bio.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


lmao

The 2D studio is the one that did Berserk 2016, right? And the 3D studio did…something else?

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Nitrousoxide posted:

Talking about this guy?

https://twitter.com/naoyafukushi/status/1408360963300945921

My read from the translation was that the 3d studio was focusing efforts on blu ray revisions and fell behind on the broadcast version.

I don't see this guy in any of the English sites as having any credits for a Spider project, though that doesn't mean that he didn't, since they will often times not be exhaustive in pulling the credits for folks who aren't the VA's or directors. He does say he's involved in the twitter bio.

He's talking about Millepensee, the 2D studio. They redid a lot of animation and then didn't have enough people working on the upcoming episodes.

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Pollyanna posted:

lmao

The 2D studio is the one that did Berserk 2016, right? And the 3D studio did…something else?

Millepensee did the 2D in Berserk (it largely being a 3D show, this means they mostly did static backgrounds or landscapes, and weren't responsible for the really garbage character model and animation on that show)

They were also 2D on Spider, and well, they are responsible for the garbage animation and character models for those portions.

The two studios involved with 3d are:
https://anidb.net/creator/47478
https://anidb.net/creator/57183

ConanTheLibrarian
Aug 13, 2004


dis buch is late
Fallen Rib
Certainly a galaxy brain decision to pull people off the broadcast team who have to work to a pre-defined and very public schedule so they can work on a bluray that could be released whenever.


Is it typical for streaming services to replace the originally broadcast episodes if they are revised for the bluray release, or are they stuck with the embarrassing versions forever?

Anora
Feb 16, 2014

I fuckin suck!🪠

Raenir Salazar posted:

IIRC I think this depends, sometimes the writer doesn't get much say about how the adaption is going. Then the fact that businesses in Japan operate on a glacial pace it can be difficult for communication to work its way between the different parties.

They probably could have noticed something majorly off as early as 14. I remember that episode had everyone going WTF. Though I'd say the real earliest issue was the Episode where Fai killed the Earth Dragon, that spiral attack she did was real bad

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

ConanTheLibrarian posted:

Certainly a galaxy brain decision to pull people off the broadcast team who have to work to a pre-defined and very public schedule so they can work on a bluray that could be released whenever.


Is it typical for streaming services to replace the originally broadcast episodes if they are revised for the bluray release, or are they stuck with the embarrassing versions forever?

It reads more like Millepensee had to redraw outsourced animation themselves instead of working on the BluRay-version. So what we got was already them trying to fix it and that delayed work in the later episodes.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

The cleaned up final episode animation looks great!



(did we already do this joke?)

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Doodles
Apr 14, 2001

Bobulus posted:

(did we already do this joke?)
Not that I can recall. Thumbs up.

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