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KungFu Grip posted:there's like 98 motyc and were not even half way through the year, and most of them are actually just alright. its just after years of boring wwe poo poo everything seems to be miles better. its very funny to me that the the nomination thresh hold went up because we were worried there was too many motyc nominations when there was only 110, but there's been more MOTYC since then because more people have gotten into njpw and aew starting up have bloated the motyc nominations to close to 200 the last few years while other promotions dwindled I think there's some truth to this. With NJPW and other Puro being more accessible, and AEW being a thing, the overall match quality available has gone way up for most western fans. It can't be that all these matches are truly in contention for best of the year. But I'd wager they are all pretty good matches. Most of us wouldn't have had access to matches of this calibre for most of the time we watched wrestling. I guess AJPW was producing bangers in the 90s that hold up today, but unless you were in that extremely niche (at the time) tape trading community you had no idea. I think literally any match on this MOTYC list would be considered unassailably the MOTY for a western wrestling fan for any year from like.... inception of professional wrestling to 2018. And it's really very cool that we get to see all these excellent matches now.
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Heck it's not just Puro, Lucha has become way easier to watch as well compared to the 80's/90's where it was crap shoot if the match was even taped
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In many ways the length of the MOTYC is a crude macro barometer of positivity towards wrestling in general. Wrestling is at its worst when it's a dull monoculture and at its best when it's a vibrant ecosystem. People voting for a bunch of things - even unexpected things - as MOTYCs is a good indicator that people are enjoying the wrestling they watch. Case in point, there was a New Japan Strong match I watched this week that I really liked. A young lion and an established pro had a great physical grappling match. I nominated it for an HM. Am I going to remember that match at the end of the year? Probably not! Did I have a really good time watching it? Absolutely! my nomination was partly "hey, this is good", and partly "hey, wrestling is good".
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Jun 20, 2021 22:48
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Less arguing, more recommendations of good/great/fun wrestling and watching of said matches. 
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Pinwiz11 posted:Less arguing, more recommendations of good/great/fun wrestling and watching of said matches. copy that MOTYC: Utami Hayashishita v Syuri, Stardom Dream Cinderella 6/12 MOTYC: Chihiro Hashimoto, Mika Iwata & DASH Chisako vs. Mio Momono, Rin Kadokura & Mei Hoshizuki in an elimination match for the AAAW Singles Championship, AAAW Tag Team Championship, Sendai Girls World Championship and Sendai Girls Tag Team Championship - GAEA Japan GAEAISM Decade of a Quarter Century 6/13 HM: Yuya Uemura vs. Minoru Suzuki NJPW Kizuna Road 6/14 HM: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Yota Tsuji NJPW Kizuna Road 6/14 HM: Yuya Uemura vs. Zack Sabre Jr., NJPW Kizuna Road 6/15 HM: Taichi vs Yota Tsuji NJPW Kizuna Road 6/15 HM: Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Yuya Uemura, NJPW Kizuna Road 6/16 HM: Kazuchika Okada vs Yota Tsuji NJPW Kizuna Road 6/16 HM: Neo Bi-Ishiki Gun (Sakisama & Mei Saint-Michel) (C) vs 121000000 (Miyu Yamashita & Maki Itoh) for the Princess Tag titles - TJPW Additional Attack 6/17 MOTYC: Darby Allin vs Men of the Year, AEW Dynamite 6/18 MOTYC: Orange Cassidy v Cesar Bononi, AEW Dynamite 6/18 HM: Eddie Kingston/Penta El Zero Miedo/Frankie Kazarian vs. Matt Jackson/The Good Brothers, AEW Dynamite 6/18 HM: Alex Coughlin vs Josh Alexander, New Japan Strong, 6/18 HM: Hyper Misao vs. Miu Watanabe vs. Pom Harajuku, TJPW The Bullet, 6/19 HM:Tetsuya Endo vs Kazusada Higuchi, King of DDT Round 2, 6/20 MOTYC: Konosuke Takeshita vs Mao, King of DDT Round 2, 6/20 MOTYC: HARASHIMA vs Yuji Hino, King of DDT Round 2, 6/20
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The Taxman posted:Just watched the show, and although the card was pretty solid, nothing touched nth; fantastic match. The finish is something that sounds silly but with how this match was put together it worked perfectly: both gave everything they had and at one point neither could get up again. Its an example of your big match epic that works perfectly in my eyes. GEORGE W BUSHI posted:MOTYC - Chihiro Hashimoto, Mika Iwata & DASH Chisako vs. Mio Momono, Rin Kadokura & Mei Hoshizuki in an elimination match for the AAAW Singles Championship, AAAW Tag Team Championship, Sendai Girls World Championship and Sendai Girls Tag Team Championship - GAEA Japan GAEAISM Decade of a Quarter Century (6/13) Nth; as good as Utami-Syuri but in a very, very different way. The build was great and as a Marvelous fan I had that investment in them winning that really helped. The best bit is the last fall which would stand on its own as a very good singles match I think: and it makes me really, really want to see those two in a proper singles match which I don't think is likely to happen which is very sad. The real gift that Mio Momono has other than just being a very good wrestler is that she makes you believe - its a wider Marvelous thing (the third generation of rookies are also great at making you buy near falls that seem ridiculous) but during that late stretch I think I bought every near fall as being something that could end the match even if it was just a punch or something similar to that. Not a lot of people have that to the level she does and its a fantastic skill for pro wrestling.
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WMOTYC: Alexa Bliss vs Shayna Baszler, WWE Hell in a Cell 20/6/21 Trash trash trash trash trash
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Testekill posted:WMOTYC: Alexa Bliss vs Shayna Baszler, WWE Hell in a Cell 20/6/21
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WMOTYC: Alexa Bliss vs Shayna Baszler, Hell in a Cell, 6/20/21. Add MIND CONTROL to the LORE OF ALEXA.
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WMOTYC: Alexa Bliss vs. Shayna Bazler - WWE Hell In A Cell 6/20 Fiend. Matches. Are. Terrible.
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Testekill posted:WMOTYC: Alexa Bliss vs Shayna Baszler, WWE Hell in a Cell 20/6/21 Nth
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HM: Sami Zayn vs. Kevin Owens WWE Hell in a Cell 20/6/21 these two beat the hell out of each other, incredibly stiff, hopefully just great selling by owens
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WMOTYC: Charlotte Flair vs. Rhea Ripley, WWE HIAC 6/20 Reasons: 1. Charlotte didn't sell anything 2. Rhea constantly screaming to sell her leg 3. DIALOG 4. lovely DQ finish
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wmotyc rhea ripley vs charlotte flair WWE Hell in a Cell 20/6/21 go through all that for a lame dq ending when rhea throws the announce table cover at charlotte to continue this feud that's started after wrestlemania
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WMOTYC: Rhea Ripley vs Charlotte, WWE Hell in a Cell 20/6/21 Awful finish to a match that I gave so little of a poo poo about and was so not entertained that I went to make a coffee halfway through.
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WMOTYC: Charlotte Flair vs Rhea Ripley for the RAW Women's Championship, Hell in a Cell 6/20/21 What a loving lovely match from start to finish. Especially the finish. Neither woman looks good, and its looking more and more like Asuka should have retained at Mania.
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Dango Bango posted:WMOTYC: Charlotte Flair vs. Rhea Ripley, WWE HIAC 6/20 Nth
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4th month in a row of a WWE PPV having at least one* WMOTY, 5 of 6 in 2021 *First non-Mania one of the year to have multiple
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WMOTYC: Lashley vs Drew McIntyre, WWE HIAC 6/20 Why are you wasting my time? Stop wasting it please. A distraction rollup in a HIAC match. And the match was pretty mediocre as well
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Testekill posted:WMOTYC: Lashley vs Drew McIntyre, WWE HIAC 6/20 Nth. It was somehow boring as hell too.
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Testekill posted:WMOTYC: Lashley vs Drew McIntyre, WWE HIAC 6/20 Nth
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Testekill posted:WMOTYC: Lashley vs Drew McIntyre, WWE HIAC 6/20 actively viewer-hostile finish, incredible stuff
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For those playing along at home, we have roughly three WMOTYCs in a single card, probably a new record for any event ever.
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Testekill posted:WMOTYC: Alexa Bliss vs Shayna Baszler, WWE Hell in a Cell 20/6/21 Testekill posted:WMOTYC: Rhea Ripley vs Charlotte, WWE Hell in a Cell 20/6/21 Testekill posted:WMOTYC: Lashley vs Drew McIntyre, WWE HIAC 6/20 nth thank you for watching heck in a ceck
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DarkstarIV posted:For those playing along at home, we have roughly three WMOTYCs in a single card, probably a new record for any event ever. Mania Night 2 this year had 4 (Orton/Fiend, women's tag titles, US title, IC title)
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Chris James 2 posted:Mania Night 2 this year had 4 (Orton/Fiend, women's tag titles, US title, IC title) oh yeah night two was dire
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Stardom now has its first successful MOTYC nomination of 2021. Yay!
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SG Bamboo posted:TJPW Spring Tour ~ The Bullet ~ June 19th nth on these two
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Chris James 2 posted:Mania Night 2 this year had 4 (Orton/Fiend, women's tag titles, US title, IC title) tbh the us title match was fine. got to see riddle eat poo poo on a brogue kick midair
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I literally forgot the IC title match was a thing.
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Chris James 2 posted:Mania Night 2 this year had 4 (Orton/Fiend, women's tag titles, US title, IC title) Oh yeah also Mania 35 had 8 qualify and a 9th get multiple votes Shane/Miz, ARMBAR, women's battle royal, Reigns/Drew, Brock/Seth, HHH/Batista, Kurt/Corbin, and the triple threat women's main all qualified; Raw tag titles got a few votes
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Pylons posted:I literally forgot the IC title match was a thing. it was the "nigerian drum fight" which uh was just a normal street fight and thats when babatunde/dabba-kato/general azez redebuted
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HM: Bianca Belair vs. Bayley WWE Hell in a Cell 20/6/21
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WMOTYC 9th May DDT Ultimate Tag League In Korakuen Sanshiro Takagi & Yukio Naya vs Danshoku Dino & Super Sasadango Machine vs Akito & Keigo Nakamura vs DISASTER BOX (Kazuki Hirata & Toru Owashi) I usually enjoy DDT nonsense, and this had some endearing chuckleworthy spots. Even had a silly stipulation, a Tag Team reverse Battle Royal, where the loser gets tossed into the ring over the top rope. But God it wore out its welcome. Cagematch claims thus was 11 minutes long but it felt twice that. That's basically an unforgivable sin for a comedy match in my book.
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HM 9th May DDT Ultimate Tag League In Korakuen Yukio Sakaguchi vs Yusuke Okada That was short and violent. Lovely stuff. HM 9th May DDT Ultimate Tag League In Korakuen 37KAMIINA (MAO & Yuki Ueno) vs Disaster Box (HARASHIMA & Naomi Yoshimura) Hard to believe this is Yoshimura's first match back after 6 months off, he's not lost a step. Sad as I am that Nautilus are finished, getting to see Yoshimura vs Ueno was still cool and fun. MOTYC 9th May DDT Ultimate Tag League In Korakuen 37KAMIINA (Konosuke Takeshita & Shunma Katsumata) vs Damnation (Daisuke Sasaki & Yuji Hino)
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forkboy84 posted:WMOTYC I gave this match MOTYC, lol. Weird, you don't usually see this thread disagreeing about comedy matches.
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Penguin Patrol posted:I gave this match MOTYC, lol. Weird, you don't usually see this thread disagreeing about comedy matches. I could easily just not have been in the right mood, I'd just had my 2nd vaccine jab & it just felt interminable. And I'm the high guy on this forum when it comes to Dieno's shtick!
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Your point about it going too long (and then finding out it apparently only went 11 minutes) does scan with the covid juice causing you to lose your patience (because immune system reactions suck)
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HM 10th May DDT Ultimate Tag League In Wrestle Universe Eruption (Kazusada Higuchi & Yukio Sakaguchi) vs 37KAMIINA (Konosuke Takeshita & Shunma Katsumata) Shows how good these teams are that a match can feel a little off and still be this good.
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