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Khorne posted:their trackpads work the same as anyone else's since at least 2015 mostly because lots of companies use the same vendor. they do not, and i'm not talking about the tracking, i'm talking about making the entire thing some floating-rear end button that makes it awkward as gently caress to actually click on anything
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before the intel ultrabook, most pc laptops still came with socketed cpus.
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mystes posted:Acer and Asus laptops are fine. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Wild EEPROM posted:before the intel ultrabook, most pc laptops still came with socketed cpus. not that it was that useful since you were usually bios limited to the four chips it shipped with even if you could successfully swap them around anyway i don’t get the apple trackpad hate; how does it interfere with typing exactly
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Jun 21, 2021 12:26
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they're too loving big
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Jun 21, 2021 13:35
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the thinkpad keyboard ain't what she used to be
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actually one thing that really bugs me about the thinkpad work gave me is that the touchpad doesn't include buttons on the bottom of the trackpad anymore... clicking the trackpad feels crunchy and weird.
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Khorne posted:but did they drop the oversized trackpad that messes with typing constantly This is the first time I have ever heard of anybody complaining about the size of the Apple trackpads. 
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DoomTrainPhD posted:This is the first time I have ever heard of anybody complaining about the size of the Apple trackpads.
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Chris Knight posted:it's been a complaint for a while They are incredibly good and the size is great. The palm rejection is also top-tier.
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Buck Turgidson posted:actually one thing that really bugs me about the thinkpad work gave me is that the touchpad doesn't include buttons on the bottom of the trackpad anymore... clicking the trackpad feels crunchy and weird. yeah, it's real bad. there's entirely too much travel to actually click and the pad floats weirdly on the buttons. literally everything about it makes it viscerally unpleasant to use
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Jun 21, 2021 14:54
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one of those where i have always used the tap-to-click without engaging the mechanism, but probably how often i have used thinkpads historically has partially caused that.
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don’t use trackpads you loving scrubs
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DoomTrainPhD posted:They are incredibly good and the size is great. The palm rejection is also top-tier. I don't get why it's so big. The middle 1/3 of it is all you need for actual trackpad usage and it's only the very outer edge that gets tapped by parts of my hand. infernal machines posted:yeah, it's real bad. there's entirely too much travel to actually click and the pad floats weirdly on the buttons. literally everything about it makes it viscerally unpleasant to use I agree that the "look you can physically press it, haptic feedback!!" thing is dumb on all devices but especially lenovo trackpads
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the issue is that just tracking on the pad feels like poo poo because it tilts and wobbles slightly, because it's floating on the buttons and as mentioned, the tolerances are poo poo. they are not well made, mechanically
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infernal machines posted:the issue is that just tracking on the pad feels like poo poo because it tilts and wobbles slightly, because it's floating on the buttons and as mentioned, the tolerances are poo poo. they are not well made, mechanically
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infernal machines posted:did lenovo figure out how to make a trackpad that even remotely works? The multi touch track pads and their associated gesture input on the Lenovos I've been using since 2014 work perfectly under Linux, op. The X200s I used from 2009-2014 had only a nub, which worked fine too. There were issues with palm detection for the first few years, admittedly, but libinput hasn't had a problem with that for quite some time now.
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Khorne posted:you're making me afraid to buy a new thinkpad here i'm sure they're fine as long as you never touch the trackpad
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https://twitter.com/bighwanjang1/status/1406183379511386112
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oho, so windows 11 will run android apps natively, making it almost certain that microsoft will take another swing at phones in the not too distant future. despite the mess of previous attempts i welcome anything that might loosen googles defacto grip on the phone market in much of the world.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:oho, so windows 11 will run android apps natively, making it almost certain that microsoft will take another swing at phones in the not too distant future. despite the mess of previous attempts i welcome anything that might loosen googles defacto grip on the phone market in much of the world. if it's just an MS-skinned version of android is it really going to make a difference in that regard, though?
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mediaphage posted:if it's just an MS-skinned version of android is it really going to make a difference in that regard, though? unless they have struck some incredibly unholy deal this almost certainly involves replacing all the google services (i.e. the vast amount of infrastructure not in aosp), google charges actual money for that package of tracking. also seems somewhat likely to be built on wsl in one way or another, with the android (aosp) stuff virtualized away. but all speculation, at minimum it is bound to be some comedy in finding up what they're up to.
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:oho, so windows 11 will run android apps natively, making it almost certain that microsoft will take another swing at phones in the not too distant future. surface duo already exists and is going through a fire sale.
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Drastic Actions posted:surface duo already exists and is going through a fire sale. i still want one
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:unless they have struck some incredibly unholy deal this almost certainly involves replacing all the google services (i.e. the vast amount of infrastructure not in aosp), google charges actual money for that package of tracking. right but if it has android compatibility the first thing people are going to do is figure out how to run google play on it and then it's just back to google tracking poo poo and making money off it
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lol https://twitter.com/caraesten/status/1408114716610764800
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someone told me the stuff msft is pulling these days is a lot less anticompetitive b/c you essentially have three big platforms now idk if that's valid but i guess it's all a cartel now instead of a monopoly 
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Cold on a Cob posted:someone told me the stuff msft is pulling these days is a lot less anticompetitive b/c you essentially have three big platforms now probably accurate for the us, europe will probably still complain
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doesn't europe pick on all three tho? i mean it's good if they do, keep em in their loving place
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Khorne posted:you're making me afraid to buy a new thinkpad here i don't know which version of the trackpad i have but the one on my thinkpad absolutely does not "float" or wobble or whatever. it feels totally fixed in place and if you don't choose to press it down you'd never know it moves.
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the one on my w540 was exactly as described, so wobbly and with such huge travel it was a chore to use wouldn't be surprised if it's still in the p series ones
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capital saw that poo poo where at&t got broken up, ibm got sued, Microsoft almost got broken up too and was like never again. and it won’t happen again I mean the story of googles rise to a multinational behemoth is basically “how to leverage market power in one area to eliminate competition in other markets” and look how much interest the doj has in enforcement action against them
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infernal machines posted:did lenovo figure out how to make a trackpad that even remotely works? Buck Turgidson posted:actually one thing that really bugs me about the thinkpad work gave me is that the touchpad doesn't include buttons on the bottom of the trackpad anymore... clicking the trackpad feels crunchy and weird. Why would you ever use a trackpad on a laptop that already has the greatest mouse device ever created ; the trackpoint? It's like slapping God in the face. I guess you enjoy having to move your hands away from the keyboard every time you use your mouse? Or is it that you enjoy having to lift your hand and start back over on the trackpad again to move from one side of the screen to the other? Chumbawumba4ever97 fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Jun 25, 2021 |
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Seriously I don't know how people use laptops without a separate left and right mouse button. Lenovo goes one step further and bestows us with the godly middle mouse button too, perfect for opening new tabs with The few times I managed to find a Dell or HP with a trackpoint I immediately 180ed once I saw they only had two mouse buttons above the trackpad
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i have three physical buttons but mostly i just tap with one, two or three fingers. it is really jarring to see someone who physically clicks with the trackpad every time. crude. uncivilized
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:oho, so windows 11 will run android apps natively, making it almost certain that microsoft will take another swing at phones in the not too distant future. despite the mess of previous attempts i welcome anything that might loosen googles defacto grip on the phone market in much of the world. hey, it worked for blackberry
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i hope they go all in on the cloud and team integration, and then it gets hacked and completely eats poo poo globally
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mediaphage posted:right but if it has android compatibility the first thing people are going to do is figure out how to run google play on it and then it's just back to google tracking poo poo and making money off it i don't think *that* is where this'll fall down in any way that matters, the fraction of people who will follow the 7-step instructions to install a random apk from a forum is about the same as those who jailbreak their iphone in 2021 (and largely irrelevant) more likely literally no one (but me, having already outed myself here) in the world will care and it'll be a junk feature only used by app generation packages to also add their trash to the windows store.
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:Why would you ever use a trackpad on a laptop that already has the greatest mouse device ever created ; the trackpoint? it's not really choice, the trackpoint requires a bit too much pressure and gets uncomfortable after a while. the only pointing device i actually like using is a trackball because rolling the ball around makes me feel like a wizard. if i can get away with it i don't use a pointing device at all.
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