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unless.... all of this so far has been a ruse to get the LDs to fold into Labour, at which point Keir Starmer takes his mask off & was actually Karl Marx's Ghost all along?!?!?!?! (which would still be a dumb plan)
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Graun is also empty quoting Cummings  shitposting on the front page. It's very funny to be honest.
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Jun 21, 2021 18:20
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The Owen Jones documentary on Batley and Spen is dead good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEcNHMLyEYk His conclusions are that Labour's existing electoral base is continuing to crumble and the leadership remains bizarrely complacent/ unconcerned about this.
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Jun 21, 2021 18:50
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Pistol_Pete posted:The Owen Jones documentary on Batley and Spen is dead good: We could have told Owen that 18 months ago.
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Jun 21, 2021 19:25
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Trickjaw posted:We could have told Owen that 18 months ago. Could have told Owen that 6 years ago 
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Jun 21, 2021 20:04
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When did Labour's electoral base crumble? - Just now - 18 months ago - I'm Scottish
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Jun 21, 2021 20:13
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they went all in on 'actually the entire left is antisemitic' so while they might realise that everyone else is just going to vote tory or lib-dem, they've narratived themselves into a corner. The left was evil and was crushed. They can't have policies that would attract those kind of voters. And as we've seen, they are very willing to go down with the ship. They'll gladly watch the base crumble. Don't expect any reckoning. These fuckers will happily ensure more Tory governments if it means the labour left stays dead. Which means if anything is going to 'fix' things it'll need to be proactive. Like a new party. But no one seems to be in any hurry so I think we've got 2 or 3 more Tory governments to go through. Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jun 21, 2021 |
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Jun 21, 2021 20:14
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Asking why kier isn't concerned about the tory lead is like asking a dad why he's intentionally losing a foot race to his toddler
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Jun 21, 2021 20:49
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Pistol_Pete posted:The Owen Jones documentary on Batley and Spen is dead good: Yeah it's good, also interesting seeing Galloway basically walking on water as he campaigns around the town. keep punching joe posted:Could have told Owen that 6 years ago lol tbf OJones has been screaming this either side of Corbyn's tenure
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OwlFancier posted:If they build everthing in PWA moderne style it has my unconditional support. 
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Regarde Aduck posted:
You might need to fill in a bit more detail on the step that comes between starting a new party and good things happening. The way I read the numbers, you are only going to get a non-Tory government if everyone between Blair and Galloway supports it. There are no group of possible Labour voters or politicians who the party can get by without. Notably, as Starmer has demonstrated , the actual left. I feel the default timeline from here is however many years of Tory rule are needed to make a Blair 2.0 E something the left is sufficiently crushed to not oppose. If there is a strategy that stops that form of Centrist accelerationism, it is not obvious.
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Jun 21, 2021 21:18
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the Chelsea england players are self isolating now too because they were too dumb not to hug their enemy scottish mate live on international TV so its a bit of a struggle to claim they maintained social distance lol.
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Jun 21, 2021 21:49
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Harry kane to City though? One hundred million pounds, what a world
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radmonger posted:If there is a strategy that stops that form of Centrist accelerationism, it is not obvious. 
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Jun 21, 2021 22:43
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radmonger posted:You might need to fill in a bit more detail on the step that comes between starting a new party and good things happening. Wonder what the longest a single party in a "democracy" has been in charge. Wonder if we're about to see that record smashed.
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IllusionistTrixie posted:Wonder what the longest a single party in a "democracy" has been in charge. The Kuomintang of China/Taiwan or the True Whig Party of Liberia are good contenders, depending on how you define a democracy.
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Guavanaut posted:Forgot to reply to say fully approve of this, A++ excellent idea, but also put some winged people and stuff on there now and again. Where is this? It looks like a beautiful 1920s fever dream.
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Lord Stimperor posted:Where is this? It looks like a beautiful 1920s fever dream. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niagara_Mohawk_Building
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The complete demise of the labour vote in favour of tactical voting in a by-election is bad for Labour, because it (rightly) shows people have no loyalty to Starmer's Labour, just a vague concept of anti-tory candidates. If you stop being the natural place for those, your voting base evaporates (PASOKification ahoy!).
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Jun 22, 2021 00:11
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IllusionistTrixie posted:Wonder what the longest a single party in a "democracy" has been in charge. Liberal Democratic Party in Japan did 38 years from 1955 to 1993. And has only missed 5 years of power since then. edit: Institutional Revolutionary Party in Mexico did 71 years from 1929 to 2000! Shyrka fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Jun 22, 2021 |
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Jun 22, 2021 00:28
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IllusionistTrixie posted:Wonder what the longest a single party in a "democracy" has been in charge. Hasn't Japan basically had a single party in power pretty much since they got a democracy? e: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1955_System almost - the socialists won the first election after the war but lasted less than a year (hmmm) then after a bunch of loving around all of the non-leftist parties combined into one party which then ruled for almost 40 years, and all but 6 of the last 66 years. goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Jun 22, 2021 |
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Jun 22, 2021 00:29
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Lord Stimperor posted:Where is this? It looks like a beautiful 1920s fever dream.
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PWA moderne is basically like, good art deco but it does tend to have a bit of a lack of winged metal people. On the other hand it's usually in nice white concrete and has the nice long lines on everything. You can go more art deco if you want but some of that goes in weird directions I'm not super partial to.
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That's exactly what I was thinking. Art Deco has far too much fiddly bits, both PWA [anystyle] and [anystyle] Moderne has far too few. Public Works Squarebuilding with a little bit of Moderne sculpture seems a good balance there.
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I just wonder if forward looking architectural styles can be developed. I'm getting awfully tired of "Glass fronted building" and "oh the roof is curved and/or at a jaunty angle, how nice"
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Guavanaut posted:Forgot to reply to say fully approve of this, A++ excellent idea, but also put some winged people and stuff on there now and again. See personally I'd like to see a return to the pre-WWI Municipal style, which is definitely one of those styles that's hard to describe but really easy to spot. The Poplar Town Hall before last* is a great example:  It's not really any particular style, just a hodgepodge of "this looks nice" bits from the last 300 years - a bit of Romanesque here, a touch of Baroque there, some random Palladian and neoclassical flourishes, all built out of Victorian bits that were lying around, but without the fussy surface finishes. The old Passmore Edwards Library:  and Sailor's Rest Home:  just down the road in Limehouse are also good examples - not obviously related until you realise they're all of that "Listen we're putting up a building for cheap but we want it to look a bit posher than the buildings around it so people know it's important" style that was used a lot for municipal offices, hence the name, but also big philanthropic endeavours like those two. I just like that it doesn't have the bombast of neo<x> architecture that was used by Big Important Buildings of the time while still marking the buildings out as not just another building. I've always felt they look like what would happen if you asked a jobbing builder to make something "a bit fancy", rather than letting someone have a grand vision all over the place. * the last Poplar Town Hall is a loving horrible example of where Municipal ended up after WWI, when someone told them about Modernism:  It looks like someone's stripped the Gillette Factory for parts.
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Azza Bamboo posted:I just wonder if forward looking architectural styles can be developed. I'm getting awfully tired of "Glass fronted building" and "oh the roof is curved and/or at a jaunty angle, how nice" The problem is that modern materials and construction methods are so good that there's no real restriction on what architects can design, so things never settle down long enough for a big change to come along. Modernism in its many forms is much more about the possiblities afforded by reinforced concrete and cheap structural steel than it was about... whatever the gently caress Bauhaus students were talking about. The buildings were genuinely futuristic simply because nobody had ever been able to create a building like that before. Nowadays we're jaded to the fact that our buildings can have a hole in the middle of them, or bend over into a death star, or whatever, so it's impossible to look completely new and different.
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If I have a gripe about a lot of UK architecture it's that everything is made of bricks and it looks manky after a while. Like it can look nice but when you have to live with it all the time I find it a bit depressing. For public spaces I definitely prefer clean white concrete. I also absolutely hate palladianism, georgianism, and neoclassicism specifically. Get that manky roman shite away from me. You got a column? Better be loving square or made of iron mate. You using lots of the fuckers? In the bin. Rows and rows of windows with loving corbels all over the shop? Garbage, hate it. Obviously this means I basically don't like any major buildings built over the past several centuries in the UK or in fact most of the world. Clearly the best solution is everything needs to be built in queen anne revival. Everyone lives in a loving gingerbread house. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Jun 22, 2021 |
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IMO we should start tunnelling and shun sunlight altogether. Also means we don't have to worry about exterior design at all.
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Since we can do basically any style now that our materials are so good, I've spun the wheel, and the UK will be rebuilt in the style of...gothic revival. Since we're already getting all the shite parts of living in Warhammer 40k, we might as well nail the aesthetic too.
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Azza Bamboo posted:IMO we should start tunnelling and shun sunlight altogether. Also means we don't have to worry about exterior design at all.
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The micro USB port on my s7 is hosed (cables just fall out if I don't position the phone and cable to within a millionth of a millimetre of the right position , as the port I think has been eroded after years of sleepily trying to plug the jack in the wrong way. Micro USB sucks so much) . I've owned this phone for like... 6 years now, and other than the charging it still works perfectly. I really don't wanna upgrade, because it seems so wasteful when this phone does literally everything I need it to. Other than recharge. Does the thread hive mind have any suggestions about what I could do? It doesn't seem like an easy fix.
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Obvious question but make sure its not just fluff in the port. Many times I have thought a phone connection was hosed but then gotten in there with a pin and pulled out a bellybuttons worth of fluff and it worked fine after. Otherwise it's hosed
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The Perfect Element posted:The micro USB port on my s7 is hosed (cables just fall out if I don't position the phone and cable to within a millionth of a millimetre of the right position , as the port I think has been eroded after years of sleepily trying to plug the jack in the wrong way. Micro USB sucks so much) . I've owned this phone for like... 6 years now, and other than the charging it still works perfectly. To get in the s7 you need to heat the back to break the waterproofing seal, not sure on how easy a jack swap would be after that, sometimes it's on its own little board and real easy and other times its a nigh impossible soldering job and I think from memory the s7 is towards the latter The s7 does wireless charging though, so that gives you some options  Failed Imagineer posted:Obvious question but make sure its not just fluff in the port. Many times I have thought a phone connection was hosed but then gotten in there with a pin and pulled out a bellybuttons worth of fluff and it worked fine after. This is worth a try too, especially with a squirty can of contact cleaner A toothpick or a splinter of one works better than a pin though and won't scratch/bridge contacts DesperateDan fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Jun 22, 2021 |
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The Perfect Element posted:Does the thread hive mind have any suggestions about what I could do? It doesn't seem like an easy fix. According to the Samsung website the S7 supports wireless charging, so you could get a wireless charger for it? The only alternative would be soldering a new usb port (or finding someone you can pay to do it).
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DesperateDan posted:A toothpick or a splinter of one works better than a pin though and won't scratch/bridge contacts This is true even though tbh when it's small fiddly microUSB I just use a pin and tread carefully
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These are all top suggestions, thanks!
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The Perfect Element posted:The micro USB port on my s7 is hosed (cables just fall out if I don't position the phone and cable to within a millionth of a millimetre of the right position , as the port I think has been eroded after years of sleepily trying to plug the jack in the wrong way. Micro USB sucks so much) . I've owned this phone for like... 6 years now, and other than the charging it still works perfectly. I took my s7 to one of those Samsung repair places a few years ago with exactly this issue and they fixed it, though it did cost a bit (I forget how much, maybe 150 quid or so but they had to replace the smashed screen too)
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See if you have a decent local repair shop. Mine had the part on hand already and swapped out the bottom circuit board within the hour for £45. Had to take it back to get them to plug the antenna back on properly but that was just a little inconvenient, ten minutes and they did it for free.
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