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CaptainSarcastic posted:I see you have never worked in a corporate environment. I'm not even sure it's just that it's corporate . . . the level of "interesting" being described seems to be specific to the sort of unique characters one can only find at the threshold of Shop/Warehouse Floor and Corporate. I used to work in a place like that . . . it was really sad. When I came in, there were still a good number of old-timers that probably would have made great shop-floor supervisors, except corporate had just recently decreed that nobody was allowed to be promoted from Hourly to Management without a 4-year degree. All the other traditional methods of advancement were being closed off as well without a degree (production scheduler, etc.) I came in early enough in my career that I was like "welp, looks like I'm going back to school then" but that was already my plan anyway. But for the 50-year old guys that were looking to move into management for the last 10-15 years of their career? You figure it'd take 6-8 years of part-timing it to get a degree, is it worth that stress and expense for 3-5 years of management then? Probably not. So now their only real option is to stick it out and hope they don't get laid off in the meantime, even as all these "nontraditional" roles keep showing up in the hourly bucket that somehow are exempt from seniority requirements . . . And those are the guys that COULD have made it into management. Then there were the characters that were probably too strange to have made it into management, even under the old system. It was like 10 years ago at this point, but I can name 4 people off the top of my head that did similar bone-headed things trying to make a name for themselves and show just how smart they were. Well, they DID make a name for themselves, but . . .  TL;DR: shop and warehouse floors attract some really . . . unique . . . individuals. Then when they realize that career advancement isn't in the cards, things get weird. Zarin fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Jun 19, 2021 |
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TotalLossBrain posted:Don't press keys for the job you have, mash keys for the job you want This
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TacticalHoodie posted:That is pretty much the conversations that I have been having all week. Hahahhaha that owns. Taking cargo culting to the next level
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Machai posted:Is this in the US? OSHA regulations require employers to provide potable drinking water. If they turn off the fountains they need to provide bottled water or something. Yes. They do have other water provided but it’s usually in places that are dumb as gently caress because of the layout of outlets/water hookups and if it’s one that’s not hooked up to water you’re dependent on someone managing to keep it stocked. I’m mostly just annoyed at completely ineffective COVID theatre that is impossible to get changed.
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We're starting to work at the office two days a week starting in July and some gently caress that's under the same manager, but thankfully works at a different location, was asking if we'd be lifting the mask mandate since "most other businesses in Austin had done away with them," and because he "doesn't want to sit around in a mask all day, y'know, because of his asthma." Really wanted to tell that dude to just shut the gently caress up. The mask isn't going to do anything to your asthma. You just don't want to wear it.
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So I transferred from my original site to a new site at the start of May. The new site isn’t open yet so they put the whole building in a six week short term assignment for training. The site is a safety disaster and not to brag or anything but I’m pretty loving good at working safety. Since I’m good at my job my boss put me on the worst shift no one wants because it covers both Friday and Saturday nights. And he decides that I should work the same schedule on the short term assignment, even though it’s ostensibly to train and there’s no safety specialist from the host site to train me, but whatever, like I said, I’m good at this. There’s also no overlap whatsoever with the safety team I’m supposed to be working with outside of Wednesday nights, when I have a crossover night with an incredibly lazy college hire with no desire to learn or do her job. My boss then finds out the new site won’t be running the bad shift no one wants because they can’t get enough people, and instead of moving me to a good shift decides he’s going to give me a hosed up frankenshift thats something no human being could work without going completely insane. Come in at 9pm and leave at 8am different days each week type insanity. Meanwhile, I loving kill it at the short term site and actually help them turn it around. Not only do they try to poach me, they don’t try to poach me for the job opening they have for my role. They try to poach me for the opening they have a level above mine. The boss for my original transfer site is surprised I’m going for it even though all they have done is gently caress me over and I’ve worked more with the team for the short term site than my original team. And, you know. Promotion. I’ve been very open the whole time that I’m a mercenary poo poo who’s in it for my resume and money. gently caress ‘em. I’m just always amazed that whenever I get poached my old employer is always surprised I would up and leave when they basically pushed me to the new job in the first place.
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Jun 20, 2021 11:24
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Nice. If you get an exit interview just print that post out and read it verbatim.
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my prev company said they were going to send me a packet to fill out to serve as my exit interview since due to the pandemic blah blah blah but then they never sent it. i dont think exit interviews actually matter nor could change anything but i was looking forward to skewering some of my old bosses in it nevertheless
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Zarin posted:I'm not even sure it's just that it's corporate . . . the level of "interesting" being described seems to be specific to the sort of unique characters one can only find at the threshold of Shop/Warehouse Floor and Corporate. The funny thing about my work is that all the supervisors and most of the warehouse management do not have 4 year degrees. The only people in my office that have higher education is the HR person we recently hired, the operations/credit clerk and myself. They are all capable and knowledgeable about the warehouse and how it works. They might never have a chance at getting to the corporate level but there is no push for people to get higher education for promotion. We usually promote guys with a strong work ethic, good attitude, and how well they work in the team. The only problem is that when people outside of the warehouse take positions where there is no suitable candidate, the warehouse floor gets childish in the hopes that they had a shot. I have went through 5 fill-ins in the last 5 years because payroll is highly technical and most of them make so many errors it take me 3 days to resolve when I come back from vacation. They can sit with me for a month, do the job as I shadow them and they will always make major errors when I am not around. It is just worth it for us to have a temp do it for a week and then it is less stress on everyone. However, warehouses attract some of the most unique people I have ever met and the situations they keep putting themselves in are amazing: - One of the selectors "injured" himself and claimed that he couldn't pick anything up. My Boss saw him that weekend holding a sign up for his mother for hours who was campaigning for city council. Same guy also bragged about having his mother in law buy everything and will yell things in the office for attention like a 12 year old. I have to lock my office every day because he will go in there and call his wife every break. Dude can't afford a cellphone and uses it as a way to get out of work. - Our previous HR would spend days not working and writing terrible comedy artitices and doing tik-tok videos. He kept dumping all his work on me. I told him I should have his salary and he got mad at me. My boss had to have one on one meetings with him all the time and even was sent to head office for training because he was a storefront manager with no HR education. - Our previous Receiving Supervisor got suspended for telling people during a break that he was not going to let his puppy go to a vet that is a Lesbian because her ways are sinful and unnatural. He sent went on long term disability. - A previous lift driver decided to show his displeasure at wearing a safety vest by not taking his antidepressants, spiraling out of control, and throwing his work boots at my boss. - A previous selector was trying show off on his dirt bike during a break, but he got the strap of his goggles wrapped around the throttle, and drove his bike into the side of the building. The dent is still there. - We also get some weirds from the third party carriers who drop product off to our warehouse. One Driver came into the smoking area asking our cleaning guy if there was anything he could use to clean his crack pipe, then proceeds to smoke meth in the parking lot. He was arrested.
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That's a whole lot dudes rock stories in one place. I love it
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TacticalHoodie posted:
In the past three weeks, I have had to put terminations and final written warnings in for a ton of people because of poo poo like this, the site I’ve been at really is a total mess. -Someone climbed on the bins that they pick product in trying to find a specific one. Fully upright walking on a one inch metal beam six feet up. Under his manager’s direction. While the person a step above him but under the manager walked backwards into an active forklift/order picker lane, about four feet from a moving picker. -Same person then crashed an order picker into a rack while looking the opposite direction from the way they were driving. And drive off. A process assistant saw it and didn’t report it. -walked a third party janitor off the site for picking up a forklift with a forklift. His wife quit as well and told the HR lady to “meet her outside” so she could “slice her up”. -Someone blew through a crosswalk without stopping in an order picker. They swerved while they were doing it, because they were texting while driving and nearly hit the stop sign. -Someone sat in a cart for product while her sister pushed her around the building. She was wholly under the railings and would not, could notaccept that she could have slid out. -Some trailer fuckery that while egregiously bad and something that was routinely brought up as a Do Not Do This thing, is also really fuckin boring. That’s in twelve work days. 3 terminations, something like 8 final writtens.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:In the past three weeks, I have had to put terminations and final written warnings in for a ton of people because of poo poo like this, the site I’ve been at really is a total mess. The Aristocrats!
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I now feel foolish for worrying about the keyboard thing.
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Today's buzzword at a large meeting was "structural dynamics" but not in the way of referring to engineering, but as this pertains to challenging conversations (yeah this makes no sense). I was hoping it was a stealth reference to that show Patriot but this team isn't that clever. Ugly In The Morning posted:-walked a third party janitor off the site for picking up a forklift with a forklift. His wife quit as well and told the HR lady to “meet her outside” so she could “slice her up”. Lol that owns, a friend at a aeronautical engineering company had an eccentric janitor that once lifted his car with a forklift to change the oil. I think that only earned him a verbal warning, that place was a mess.
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Jun 21, 2021 16:54
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The lack of sales continues. It could stretch into forever. I approach an event horizon where eventually my job becomes buying the things we used to sell. I laugh backwards
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Forkies are a loving weird bunch of people. Always in demand because they constantly get fired for dumb poo poo.
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The structural dynamics of flow
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Jun 21, 2021 17:32
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Hey guy working hardware family A, run a change for hardware family B, that you haven't worked on in 5 years . No, there's no extra money for you to spend walking into walls because you don't know as much about this commodity. Cool, I'm gonna overspend this poo poo.
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Jun 21, 2021 17:33
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I have been requested to double my budget to sell things which we do not have. I am approaching 60 million US dollars to promote barren shelves.
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Jun 21, 2021 17:35
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You should spend it all on attack ads against your competitors.
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That's enough money to buy citizenship in a tax haven that won't extradite you to stand trial for embezzlement.
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Donate it to a far left movement that wants to destroy your industry. It might reduce demand for a bit.
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I was told the administrative assistant/office manager for our satellite office quit and we have no plans to replace them, but fear not because we've found a way to take care of task X. It's very important that task X doesn't fall by the wayside because that impacts our billing. Fortunately the administrative assistants in the main office can do that remotely. Task X is maybe 10% of their job, and when I asked what was the plan for the other 90% of their job, the little poo poo like answering the phones, maintaining the equipment, organizing the cleaning rota (only the satellite office has this, the main office has professional cleaners of course), archiving paperwork, etc. I just get dead silence.
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ClothHat posted:I was told the administrative assistant/office manager for our satellite office quit and we have no plans to replace them, but fear not because we've found a way to take care of task X. It's very important that task X doesn't fall by the wayside because that impacts our billing. Fortunately the administrative assistants in the main office can do that remotely. Task X is maybe 10% of their job, and when I asked what was the plan for the other 90% of their job, the little poo poo like answering the phones, maintaining the equipment, organizing the cleaning rota (only the satellite office has this, the main office has professional cleaners of course), archiving paperwork, etc. I just get dead silence. Hey, at least they were honest about what the plan was.
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We're about a month out from our Agile training and it's resulted in two projects "going agile." In both cases this consists of the project lead calling our chaotic concurrent design/buy/build process Agile. One of these programs is so bad I'm starting to think the program manager may be illiterate or have memory issues. When the customer for that program pointed out that the meetings had nothing in common with the Agile process the manager responded with "you know, this is all new to me and I really didn't get what we were taught. We were told to be Agile and so now this is an Agile program." The designer and I had to conspire to convince him that as a contractor he wasn't allowed on site with the current COVID protocols just to avoid him trying to "help" with some measurements we needed. He sent a subjectless email to our lead Deployed Systems guy that was just "I heard there's another workstation we could buy. Is it good?" No mention of what the needs are for the program, nothing on what is currently being tracked, not even an email train to work through leading up to that request. If I didn't know exactly what was happening I would think that was a spam message or sent before it was completed.
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Lazyfire posted:We're about a month out from our Agile training and it's resulted in two projects "going agile." In both cases this consists of the project lead calling our chaotic concurrent design/buy/build process Agile. One of these programs is so bad I'm starting to think the program manager may be illiterate or have memory issues. When the customer for that program pointed out that the meetings had nothing in common with the Agile process the manager responded with "you know, this is all new to me and I really didn't get what we were taught. We were told to be Agile and so now this is an Agile program." The designer and I had to conspire to convince him that as a contractor he wasn't allowed on site with the current COVID protocols just to avoid him trying to "help" with some measurements we needed. He sent a subjectless email to our lead Deployed Systems guy that was just "I heard there's another workstation we could buy. Is it good?" No mention of what the needs are for the program, nothing on what is currently being tracked, not even an email train to work through leading up to that request. If I didn't know exactly what was happening I would think that was a spam message or sent before it was completed. Is he a 66 y/o named Rich? If so I might have fired him from my team 5 years ago for that poo poo.
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Lazyfire posted:We're about a month out from our Agile training and it's resulted in two projects "going agile." In both cases this consists of the project lead calling our chaotic concurrent design/buy/build process Agile. One of these programs is so bad I'm starting to think the program manager may be illiterate or have memory issues. When the customer for that program pointed out that the meetings had nothing in common with the Agile process the manager responded with "you know, this is all new to me and I really didn't get what we were taught. We were told to be Agile and so now this is an Agile program." The designer and I had to conspire to convince him that as a contractor he wasn't allowed on site with the current COVID protocols just to avoid him trying to "help" with some measurements we needed. He sent a subjectless email to our lead Deployed Systems guy that was just "I heard there's another workstation we could buy. Is it good?" No mention of what the needs are for the program, nothing on what is currently being tracked, not even an email train to work through leading up to that request. If I didn't know exactly what was happening I would think that was a spam message or sent before it was completed.  goatface posted:Forkies are a loving weird bunch of people. Always in demand because they constantly get fired for dumb poo poo. I drove at a dairy about a hundred years ago and it might not be an exaggeration to say every single lift driver* was using weed or speed on the job. One guy that I knew would use his lunch break to take bong rips in his car before heading back to work and I'm sure that was common practice. *Except for a friend and myself, because we were dorks. Outrail fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jun 21, 2021 |
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Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:Is he a 66 y/o named Rich? If so I might have fired him from my team 5 years ago for that poo poo. zedprime posted:We all know Rich, even if we haven't fired him. It's basically a law that there is at least one "Rich" in each office job that lets everyone know that the floor is for competency. I constantly worry that I'm slipping below that point when I take longer than expected to get something put together, but on the other hand I've never had to have IT call me and give me back my ability to copy/paste in Office.
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Lazyfire posted:We're about a month out from our Agile training and it's resulted in two projects "going agile." For issues that were not pointed or scoped by anyone on the team beforehand? Because the product manager and your manager just threw tickets into the sprint with the belief that points and velocity are things that just work themselves out? If not, fun times ahead!
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Our Rich calls our retail workers dumb when they fail to immediately understand compliance rules his dept posted to a hidden internal page and didn’t tell anyone. He also complains he gets work calls on his cell phone as he set that number as his default instead of his desk phone and can’t be bothered to update it.
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As of June 2021, our email system has a 14 MB limit on attachments.
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TacticalHoodie posted:Then someone today from our repack decided that he was going to take my position(because he found out my title changed and just assumed I got a wage increase) by sitting at my desk when I went to the bathroom and hosed up payroll for this week by "trying to learn the payroll system". Thanks Homie, you got suspended and I have to do a gently caress ton of work this weekend. Uh...does your place not train anyone to lock their machine? Or is it a system that can't be locked or something? Not to sound like a dick, but never EVER leave things unlocked around stupid people, especially if you're in a position dealing with finance or personal info.
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BOOTY-ADE posted:Uh...does your place not train anyone to lock their machine? Or is it a system that can't be locked or something? Not to sound like a dick, but never EVER leave things unlocked around stupid people, especially if you're in a position dealing with finance or personal info. Maybe Repack Homie was just a deep cover plant from IT Security 
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Brave assumption that they have user IDs.
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ultrafilter posted:As of June 2021, our email system has a 14 MB limit on attachments. that's pretty common rarely are they set higher than 25mb i think the exchange and office365 defaults are around that territory
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During a lull in the re-opening 'festivities' (mostly giving out headphones then telling people we're out of headphones), the boss said that senior leadership has been having emergency meetings attrition is apparently approaching Verdun levels. We're all shocked that telling a few hundred people who have been doing their jobs remote they have a couple weeks before they'll probably have to start coming back in, and oh yeah, you now have to book a desk in advance if you want a place to sit might... Lead to people loving off to other companies?
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Cthulu Carl posted:During a lull in the re-opening 'festivities' (mostly giving out headphones then telling people we're out of headphones), the boss said that senior leadership has been having emergency meetings attrition is apparently approaching Verdun levels. We're all shocked that telling a few hundred people who have been doing their jobs remote they have a couple weeks before they'll probably have to start coming back in, and oh yeah, you now have to book a desk in advance if you want a place to sit might... Lead to people loving off to other companies? Cool man, enjoy your upcoming pizza party!
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ClothHat posted:Cool man, enjoy your upcoming pizza party! The ice cream is tomorrow. Because it was raining today. I don't understand why everyone's quitting 
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