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Matt Zerella posted:isn't Caban Sunrise? good for her but I fully expect disappointment there. what's sunrise
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In Training posted:what's sunrise https://www.sunrisemovement.org/?ms=SunriseMovement-WeAreTheClimateRevolution They're behind all the popular socdems we know and love. Say the right things, deliver on few/none of them and get a lot of money for it.
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Matt Zerella posted:https://www.sunrisemovement.org/?ms=SunriseMovement-WeAreTheClimateRevolution Where does the money come from?
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Marx Headroom posted:gently caress yes. So satisfying after the machine gently caress last cycle
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Where does the money come from? individual donations and corporate sponsors I guess
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don't worry Bros. we'll push her left. we got this!
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In Training posted:don't worry Bros. we'll push her left. we got this! I have already started.
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Matt Zerella posted:They're behind all the popular socdems we know and love. Say the right things, deliver on few/none of them and get a lot of money for it. So is this a "five socialists in Congress haven't stopped climate change yet, so everyone this org touches must be some kind of phony" take or did Sunrise actually do something hosed up?
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betaraywil posted:So is this a "five socialists in Congress haven't stopped climate change yet, so everyone this org touches must be some kind of phony" take or did Sunrise actually do something hosed up? no, Sunrise did nothing at all. that is the critique.
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they also endorsed Biden and acted shocked when he said he was going to appoint Cedric Richmond like two days after the election
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I was wrong, Sunrise gave a loud endorsement to Joe Biden and worked hard to guilt libs and environmentalists into voting for Joey B. Once in office, Joe Biden promptly ignored the Sunrise Movement and all its overtures. In response, the Sunrise Movement posted on twitter, fundraised, and was publicly excited for future environmental legislation from Biden.
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Weird to say that anyone who says they're leftist is tainted b/c they're sponsored by an ineffectual environmental organization. At least wait to have them not vote for a decent min wage or something.
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Shageletic posted:Weird to say that anyone who says they're leftist is tainted b/c they're sponsored by an ineffectual environmental organization. im excited for her, she seems legit.
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bedpan posted:no, Sunrise did nothing at all. that is the critique. No, the critique is: Matt Zerella posted:isn't Caban Sunrise? good for her but I fully expect disappointment there. which is reading "Sunrise doesn't do poo poo" backwards. That makes their endorsement worthless, but it doesn't make people who receive their endorsement worthless. Like I firmly expect no change to the pace of improvement on environmental poo poo and prison abolition, because one or two or three socdems on the council isn't enough to enact an agenda. But let them get sworn in before you decide they're full of poo poo.
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Real hurthling! posted:i voted for prince
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They "raised awareness!"
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just for the record I like Caban (I voted for her for Queens DA) and I'm happy for her but I expect absolutely nothing from her and we align on the reasons why. didn't mean to be abrasive.
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Fair enough I feel that way somteimes. Being into politics isnt super fun
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Adams and Yang didn't make it to my ballot. Prince did. Ranked Wiley 1
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I’m a little surprised at how many people are acting like yang ever had a chance
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kitten emergency posted:I’m a little surprised at how many people are acting like yang ever had a chance He polled really well for a while. Then he opened his mouth lol
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The terrifying thing was how long he kept polling well after he started opening his mouth. He was talking about a casino on Governor's Island and turning midtown into a crypto mine for months before he lost his name ID halo.
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I always thought he was a joke but no joke I was getting a little worried when he was talking about cutting taxes for property owners and raising funding for the police. Combining the pro police and FYGM lobbies is a potent combination. But Adams solidly got that bloc instead.
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Jun 24, 2021 18:13
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lol Yang still did better than Stringer and Morales.
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Jun 24, 2021 18:18
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i think the metoo thing killed stringer
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GalacticAcid posted:i think the metoo thing killed stringer It definitely did, if only because it prompted virtually all his endorsers to publicly denounce him
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stringer has also been an elected pol for a long time and nobody likes nyc government.
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Am I just stupid (don't answer that), because I feel like none of the analysis are taking the whole RCV system seriously. It's not like any projections are giving a full majority to any one candidate, right? So even if Yang got the least, it's time to see who his supporters put as second choice, etc?
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Jun 24, 2021 19:41
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but the guy the cops and media want is winning which if you think about it is practically like being the winner for real so please move along
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Am I just stupid (don't answer that), because I feel like none of the analysis are taking the whole RCV system seriously. It's not like any projections are giving a full majority to any one candidate, right? So even if Yang got the least, it's time to see who his supporters put as second choice, etc? Nah, I feel similarly. Maybe this is a "I don't know anybody who voted for Richard Nixon" thing on my part, but I can't see tons of people putting Adams in lower ranks. He has less of a jump to 50+1, but it's still based on people who may not have ranked him at all.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Am I just stupid (don't answer that), because I feel like none of the analysis are taking the whole RCV system seriously. It's not like any projections are giving a full majority to any one candidate, right? So even if Yang got the least, it's time to see who his supporters put as second choice, etc? Same, I can plausibly see Adams as the most likely ultimate winner, but most likely doesn't mean likely.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Am I just stupid (don't answer that), because I feel like none of the analysis are taking the whole RCV system seriously. It's not like any projections are giving a full majority to any one candidate, right? So even if Yang got the least, it's time to see who his supporters put as second choice, etc? no you're absolutely right, there's still potential for very weird poo poo to happen
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we won't know the results for weeks but that's boring and media outlets like to declare poo poo ASAP for views and narratives. even if he wins at the end of July declaring anybody a victor right now is just making poo poo up.
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Morales was always the most left and thus the furthest behind and then she got tanked by shafting her own campaign team lol
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My paranoid rear end is thinking that Adams is being super strident now so that he can do a stop the steal thing later.
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bc stop the steal went so well for trombo?
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Tulip posted:My paranoid rear end is thinking that Adams is being super strident now so that he can do a stop the steal thing later. https://twitter.com/GwynneFitz/status/1407034646362210316
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Maximo Roboto posted:Morales was always the most left and thus the furthest behind and then she got tanked by shafting her own campaign team lol she was an opportunist from the beginning, adopted the language of popular sentiment while being an executive at a housing org that evicts ppl and sitting on the board of a charter school. im glad she got burned
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