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Zmej
Nov 6, 2005

:holds flashlight under chin:
WOT IF PUTIN WAS A GUNBOAT????

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wisconsingreg
Jan 13, 2019

on all six of them ya

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


Lostconfused posted:

Google image search leads to a tumblr post



and searching the title leads to

https://www.africa-confidential.com/article-preview/id/10564/Riding_the_rails

Which is from "Published 1st April 2011"

I don't know how much has changed in ten years, but it's not surprising that it's not accurate anymore.

And that should answer your question.

Well, that and it was published on April fool's day???

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Vasukhani posted:

Afghan Gov is loving done



Bitch rear end quisling government replaced by more brutal, previous quisling government

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Antonymous posted:

the censorship thing in china is insanely annoying and absolutely harms their native film industry because you either have the 龍標 or you are an indie film that can only show abroad or at private events like film festivals, and people decide their route before pre production / their whole career is pigeon holed into one of those routes. Even if you decide to do commercial film you still might get hosed if some geriatric censor doesn't like how you portray a historical event or whatever and now you wasted tens of millions USD worth of money on something no one will ever see. huge risk, even with pre-approval. Then you get lovely edits with storylines reshot or cut out in order to appease said geriatric censors, very harmful to the artform.

TV is obviously completely hosed

this is possibly true with domestic releases i dont know because im not that familiar with the domestic chinese film market

but its absolutely not the case with international releases china doesnt let any random lovely american movie into their market because every country that hasnt practiced some form of import restriction had their domestic film industry smothered to death several decades ago

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/jeongminnkim/status/1407187507670781955

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

excuse me, sarcasm is a western invention and the collectivist oriental has no way of parsing it

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Huh former President Benigno Aquino died today

Imagine if Obama kicked the bucket in the last year of Trump's term, for context

Rip zeez

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

gradenko_2000 posted:

Huh former President Benigno Aquino died today

Imagine if Obama kicked the bucket in the last year of Trump's term, for context

Rip zeez

Trump still has one term that is coming soon.

huhwhat
Apr 22, 2010

by sebmojo

Antonymous posted:

the censorship thing in china is insanely annoying and absolutely harms their native film industry because you either have the 龍標 or you are an indie film that can only show abroad or at private events like film festivals, and people decide their route before pre production / their whole career is pigeon holed into one of those routes. Even if you decide to do commercial film you still might get hosed if some geriatric censor doesn't like how you portray a historical event or whatever and now you wasted tens of millions USD worth of money on something no one will ever see. huge risk, even with pre-approval. Then you get lovely edits with storylines reshot or cut out in order to appease said geriatric censors, very harmful to the artform.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/964920.shtml

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Usually when a film is disapproved instead of sent back for changes it is not allowed to be resubmitted for review, but that is not always the case. Once a woman in her 50s shot a 90-minute biography which she funded on her own. Liu disapproved the film when he saw it the first time.

"There was no story and no technique. It was badly produced."

However, apparently the film had "power" and so was resubmitted to the review board eight or nine times - Liu ended up watching it three times. Though the name of the film and the studio kept changing, the film was still disapproved each time.

"I can't sympathize too much. If I passed it, audiences would criticize me saying: 'What the hell is this? How did it pass review?'"


















Antonymous posted:

Even if you decide to do commercial film you still might get hosed if some geriatric censor doesn't like how you portray a historical event or whatever and now you wasted tens of millions USD worth of money on something no one will ever see. huge risk, even with pre-approval.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/964920.shtml

quote:

"You need to consider the future of the directors, the investment of the producers, the impact on society and the pressure of public opinion."

















Antonymous posted:

the censorship thing in china is insanely annoying and absolutely harms their native film industry because you either have the 龍標 you get lovely edits with storylines reshot or cut out in order to appease said geriatric censors, very harmful to the artform.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duYEGS-uCWk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_the_Bullets_Fly

quote:

Made in Mandarin and Sichuanese, the film broke several box office records in China, and has received critical acclaim, when it was released. Let the Bullets Fly grossed 674 million yuan (US$110 million) in Chinese box office[4] (becoming the highest grossing domestic film in China until it was beaten by Painted Skin: The Resurrection in 2012[5][6]) and $140 million worldwide.[2]
https://3brothersfilm.com/blog/2014/03/let-bullets-fly-2010

quote:

Jiang pulls off a delicate balancing act with Let the Bullets Fly. He has never openly stated his film is a satire, but the Chinese friend who lent me the film assures me it works as an allegory for the Maoist revolution. And as the film built to its climax, it's function becomes ever more apparent. Jiang could not be upfront about the satire because the censors in China are notoriously strict and would remove any obvious criticism of the Communist Party. He had to hide his message. But even if you ignore the satire in Let the Bullets Fly, the film still works as riotous entertainment.
https://cinema-scope.com/features/features-let-the-readings-fly-jiang-wen-reaches-for-the-mainstream/

quote:

Critical readings of Bullets in Chinese have distributed themselves more or less evenly along the political spectrum: an arch-Maoist allegory; a post-socialist or post-capitalist text; a subversive anti-Communist work.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/964920.shtml

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Sometimes this review process is even used by studios to market a film. Before Jiang Wen's Gone with the Bullets was released, rumors were flying about a certain part of the film being cut. However, as one of the reviewers of the film, Liu said only two things were changed. Liu said that the rumors were actually a form of marketing, because if audiences heard that the movie was something they were not allowed to see, they would become even more curious about it.

















https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5hkbE84nT0
https://iffr.com/en/2020/films/dwelling-in-the-fuchun-mountains

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Gu used personal loans to start filming in his home town before the indie start-up Factory Gate joined in. The complexity and consistent production design are all the more surprising, given the fact that the maker has never been to film school. His choice to solely use non-professionals as his cast is entirely convincing.
https://www.cinemaescapist.com/2019/12/review-dwelling-fuchun-mountains-movie/

quote:

Resultantly, contemporary Chinese reality plays a key role in the film. The four brothers struggle to care for their senile mother (a problem for many Chinese families), Guxi’s mom tries to muddle in her love life (parental pressure is a common experience for young Chinese), and material wealth (or the lack thereof) factors into many decisions that the main characters make—a reflection of high materialism in contemporary China. Non-Chinese audiences may find these contemporary cultural aspects easier to appreciate than shan shui aesthetics.


















https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/964920.shtml

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Political sensitivities are very important when reviewing a movie. When reviewing Qichuan Xuxu (Gasp), a 2009 film from director Zheng Zhong, Liu pointed out that the lighting of Tiananmen Square in some scenes made it look gloomy.

"It looked just like a scene from old society," but the film was supposed to be a contemporary story. Even though the square only appeared in the background of the movie, Liu could not allow it to pass.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202104/1220663.shtml

quote:

Bright, vivid Wuhan totally different with that presented in a BBC documentary which was believed to have added a yellow-gray gloomy "underworld filter."

In December 2020, BBC News posted the Chinese and English versions of a video titled "How Everyday Life Has Changed in Wuhan" on YouTube. Although the two versions had the same content, netizens found that a filter was added to the English version that made the footage more grayish.




















Cao Ni Ma posted:

china fears jokerfication

Nonsense posted:

Joker owning commies
https://movie.douban.com/subject/27119724/




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Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

nice meltdown

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Lying flat is the hot new youth trend

quote:

From white-collar workers in China’s bustling cities to university students, an army of frustrated young people are taking to social media and internet message boards to declare themselves “‘lying flat youth”.

The movement’s roots can be traced back to an obscure internet post called “lying flat is justice”, in which a user called Kind-Hearted Traveller combined references to Greek philosophers with his experience living on 200 yuan (US$31) a month, two meals a day and not working for two years.

“I can just sleep in my barrel enjoying a sunbath like Diogenes, or live in a cave like Heraclitus and think about ‘Logos’,” the person wrote.

“Since there has never really been a trend of thought that exalts human subjectivity in this land, I can create it for myself. Lying down is my wise man movement.”

According to the anonymous poster, this humble existence left them physically healthy and mentally free.

quote:

Elaine Tang, who works for a Guangzhou-based tech firm, said the term was resonating with young Chinese who saw the odds stacked against them.

“In recent years, property prices have skyrocketed, and the gap between social classes has become wider and wider,” said the 35 year old, who has been married seven years but not yet had children.

“The rich and the authorities monopolise most of the resources, and more and more working class like us have to work from 9am to 9pm, six days a week, but still can’t afford a down payment [on a flat] or even the cost of having a child.”

A survey by Chinese microblogging site Weibo, conducted between May 28 and June 3, found 61 per cent of the 241,000 participants said they want to embrace the lying flat attitude.

quote:

“Most likely you will work hard your entire life but still not be able to afford a house. Maybe it’s better just to give up this goal,” said Frank Lin, a recent engineering graduate from one of China’s best universities who is an advocate for lying flat culture.

“Just because I graduated from a top university, it doesn’t mean I have a higher chance of buying a house.”

For Hu, whose frequent overtime has taken a toll on her health, the lying flat ethos provides her with comfort, because she knows is not alone in suffering from China’s culture of overworking.

“I used to like going shopping, especially after working hard overtime, to relieve stress,” she said.

“Now, I’m thinking about living a simple life, looking for a job with no overtime, two days off a week, earning 4,000 yuan a month. I don’t need to be so exhausted.”

https://twitter.com/moksapeggy/status/1406819495537172481

Some are going Walden, and the influencers and real estate developers are noticing.

quote:

Near the end of May, a first-person essay about ditching the urban rat race and relocating to a mountain village went viral on the Chinese internet. Titled “Why I Chose to Live a Low-Desire Life in a Mountain Village: My Silent Struggle Against Modern Slavery,” the piece described the author’s experiences since relocating to a remote rural corner of the eastern Zhejiang province. Revolting against the norms of modern urban life, she disclaims all interest in buying a house, going out with friends, working overtime, eating junk food, or buying nice things.

quote:

Motivated by the idyllic rural landscapes shared by influencers like Li Ziqi and Tenzing Tsondu — known by his Mandarin name Ding Zhen — as well as government campaigns to “revitalize” the countryside, disillusioned urbanites have flocked to the semi-rural outskirts of major cities and even farther afield, to rapidly gentrifying tourist playgrounds like Dali and Lhasa — ironically sparking the exact sort of real estate boom they’re ostensibly fleeing.

quote:

But there’s no denying their seemingly anti-capitalist fantasies have been successfully co-opted by capital, whether that of the big tech firms backing China’s biggest pastoral vloggers or the real estate developers driving up land prices in Dali.

https://twitter.com/zoozizzezze/status/1406488137187069955

lol cattiness in this op-ed

https://twitter.com/mbrookerhk/status/1406072837303980034

quote:

It’s ironic (though perhaps inevitable) that, having adopted the methods of a market economy to achieve its goal of creating a moderately prosperous society, China now finds itself beset with an identifiably capitalist affliction. Opting out and doing nothing requires a base level of affluence that would be impractical in a country still trying to drag itself out of poverty. Yet beyond a certain point, material goals cease to satisfy human needs — a syndrome that is familiar in many developed countries.

Capitalism is a perpetual motion machine, driven by an inexorable logic of expansion. The profits of production are invested in more production, which requires ever-expanding markets to consume what is made. This gives rise to the advertising and marketing industries, whose job it is to convince consumers that fulfillment lies in more and better things. All this makes capitalism a prodigious generator of goods and services. It also tends to generate feelings of alienation and anxiety.

That’s because the answer to human happiness doesn’t lie in sating material desires (something that Buddhists have known for thousands of years). In the U.S. context, this can be seen in novels such as Revolutionary Road, the 1961 classic by Richard Yates, which expresses the hollowness and inauthenticity at the heart of the American Dream amid the suburban affluence of the postwar years. The German psychologist and critic of capitalism Erich Fromm argued that a society in which “consumption has become the de facto goal” was sick, and bemoaned how marketing transformed everything into a commodity.

A Stalinist political system is a perpetual motion machine of another kind, fueled by paranoia. The motherland is surrounded by enemies, and the people must constantly redouble their efforts and unite behind their savior-leader to beat back the existential threats it faces. Having abandoned (or at least postponed) the Communist ideals of equality and solidarity, Xi has turned to nationalism and perceptions of a hostile world to reinforce belief in the necessity of the party’s leadership. “Universal values” such as democracy and human rights are a foreign plot designed to weaken and destabilize China; discussion of such pernicious influences has been banished.

What is intriguing about the “lying flat” wave is that it shows how similar the Chinese experience is when faced with the same conditions as other countries. Political control has its limits. For all Xi’s attempts to foster a sense of Chinese exceptionalism and reinforce Communist orthodoxy, society may develop in unexpected ways. It’s also a reminder that China has other traditions besides the rigid Legalist philosophy that characterizes Xi’s grip on power. Lying flat contains more than a hint of Daoism, which emphasizes harmony with nature. The Daoist poet Li Bai seems to have spent most of his time drinking wine and enjoying the company of friends; he reputedly drowned while leaning drunkenly out of his boat to see the moon's reflection in the river. The Communist press wouldn’t have approved.

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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Pretty ironic that the #1 problem China currently facing is landlordism

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

huhwhat posted:

:words:

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lol what a rap sheet.

idk i even understand half the posts.

crepeface has issued a correction as of 08:23 on Jun 24, 2021

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

Palladium posted:

Pretty ironic that the #1 problem China currently facing is landlordism

It's possible that these netizens are coming from specific areas of China like the big pricy coastal cities but idk

Western insinuations the this will lead to national calamity are just silly, but otoh it also goes to show that China is not immune to the same anomie and bourgeois discontent that's everywhere in the world now.

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Maximo Roboto posted:

It's possible that these netizens are coming from specific areas of China like the big pricy coastal cities but idk

Western insinuations the this will lead to national calamity are just silly, but otoh it also goes to show that China is not immune to the same anomie and bourgeois discontent that's everywhere in the world now.

I mean even if they are in coastal cities that’s still pretty poo poo for a country ostensibly run by communists. I don’t see how wanting to live somewhere you like but can’t afford due to finance dominating the housing market is bourgeois discontent

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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Maximo Roboto posted:

It's possible that these netizens are coming from specific areas of China like the big pricy coastal cities but idk

Western insinuations the this will lead to national calamity are just silly, but otoh it also goes to show that China is not immune to the same anomie and bourgeois discontent that's everywhere in the world now.

Class consciousness is infinitely stronger in China though since Marxism is a required subject as part of their compulsory schooling

That still doesn't excuse why the gently caress the CCP are dragging their heels on taxing landlords with excess RE properties

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

first bitcoin then the landlords

but in the meantime please let the foreign students back in comrade xi

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


crepeface posted:

lol what rap sheet.

idk even understand half the posts.

Ironic that a post on censorship got censored

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
Idk if this is the thread to discuss Iran also but I heard on my CBC wake up news thing on my phone that Canada is saying Iran shot their own commerical plane down on purpose and that Canada wants to try and add sanctions over it (there were a fair number of Canadians on board).

Why would Iran want to shoot their own plane down?

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

my favorite "china censors media" story was when some TV channel in China spent a bunch of money to make a high-quality imperial court drama people generally liked about Wu Zetian and then some censor decided the costumes showed too much boob so after like 3 episodes they pulled it and just badly cropped the rest of the show any time a woman was in frame.

the best part was the costumers actually had already worked with media officials when they made the show to make the costumes less-cleavagey than would be historically accurate, cuz I guess tang dynasty women's fashion was all about low cut tops.

it got such a negative reaction in china the censors actually came out and explained why they did it which was a very lame "it's unhealthy to see that!!!" so everyone just pirated the uncut version which aired in Taiwan and HK.

for an example this scene


became this


it was so hastily done that often times the person speaking or doing things was completely out of frame or awkwardly half in frame.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/jennyschuessler/status/1407889549636800512

so was this newspaper actually forced to close down by the government or did they just go out of business the normal way because everyone hates newspapers now

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
HK police grabbed 5 executive suites for financial charges. There were a whole bunch of people quitted after that. So I guess they can't/don't want to find replacements. That's my impression.

It's not a Drterte revoking the media license situation if that's what you are asking.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Idk if this is the thread to discuss Iran also but I heard on my CBC wake up news thing on my phone that Canada is saying Iran shot their own commerical plane down on purpose and that Canada wants to try and add sanctions over it (there were a fair number of Canadians on board).

Why would Iran want to shoot their own plane down?
this would certainly make CBC a white supremacist news network here unless they have evidence that iran wanted to shoot the plane down

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Ailumao posted:

my favorite "china censors media" story was when some TV channel in China spent a bunch of money to make a high-quality imperial court drama people generally liked about Wu Zetian and then some censor decided the costumes showed too much boob so after like 3 episodes they pulled it and just badly cropped the rest of the show any time a woman was in frame.

the best part was the costumers actually had already worked with media officials when they made the show to make the costumes less-cleavagey than would be historically accurate, cuz I guess tang dynasty women's fashion was all about low cut tops.

it got such a negative reaction in china the censors actually came out and explained why they did it which was a very lame "it's unhealthy to see that!!!" so everyone just pirated the uncut version which aired in Taiwan and HK.

for an example this scene


became this


it was so hastily done that often times the person speaking or doing things was completely out of frame or awkwardly half in frame.

for some reason this reminds me of the basketball player who got banned from the CBA for saying Chinese women got cakes on the low

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/marxistsoc/status/1402635739372822528

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
that seemed to make sense until the wild swing taken in the last paragraph and a half

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

comedyblissoption posted:

this would certainly make CBC a white supremacist news network here unless they have evidence that iran wanted to shoot the plane down

Don't know why it was talked about today when they said this stuff weeks ago but

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/iran-shot-down-plane-court-b1851889.html

They're guilty cause they can't prove they didn't do it on purpose

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
yeah planes get accidentally shot down all the time (???)

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Idk if this is the thread to discuss Iran also but I heard on my CBC wake up news thing on my phone that Canada is saying Iran shot their own commerical plane down on purpose and that Canada wants to try and add sanctions over it (there were a fair number of Canadians on board).

Why would Iran want to shoot their own plane down?

They might be referring to the plane that got shot down back in January of 2020 after the Soleimani assassination. Lol that they're doing this now though

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Grapplejack posted:

They might be referring to the plane that got shot down back in January of 2020 after the Soleimani assassination. Lol that they're doing this now though

it was this. they shot it out of the loving sky circumstances mean nothing.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://mobile.twitter.com/bystellayu_tnsn/status/1407763513498607617

oh not wuhan no its more of a hangzhou belief

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:


my wife is from a city beside wuhan and lived in wuhan for many years. she’s not only not heard of this but doesn’t know anyone from that area that eats dog. people there see eating dogs and cats as like, a cantonese thing

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
I have never eaten dog in my life. I was told I ate cat meat once when I was 3. Sorry if that sound worse to you.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I've eaten goat. It was good.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

gradenko_2000 posted:

I've eaten goat. It was good.

Eating goat is pretty common.

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

Some Guy TT posted:

https://twitter.com/jennyschuessler/status/1407889549636800512

so was this newspaper actually forced to close down by the government or did they just go out of business the normal way because everyone hates newspapers now
It’s 100% Beijing forcing it to close down. But it may help to put this in context to know that the founder and owner of Apple Daily is Jimmy Lai, a “pro-democracy” billionaire who has been a UK citizen since 1996. Some stuff from the Wikipedia page on him:

quote:

In 2014, leaked documents showed Jimmy Lai paid former US deputy defence secretary and former World Bank president Paul Wolfowitz US$75,000 for his help with projects in Myanmar.

quote:

Between July and November 2019 Lai was able to meet with US Vice President Mike Pence and later with US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to discuss the Hong Kong protests.

Not exactly a mystery why this guy and his paper was targeted by the CCP.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
i've eaten kangaroo. it sucks.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

crepeface posted:

i've eaten kangaroo. it sucks.

i had a kangaroo burger and it tastes 97% the same as a normal burger with beef

my favorite weird thing is deep fried scorpions. they dust em with some spice powder and they’re great

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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
imo who cares if people eat dog, but putting stuff like that in the New Yorker is solely intended to stoke anti-Chinese sentiment

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