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JordanKai posted:
I believe these goblin stills were promo pieces for the Wizarding World attraction at Universal Studios. The Star of David on the bank floor was there since 2001 however.
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Jun 24, 2021 15:39
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They really doubled down on this banker Goblin thing later on in the franchise instead of toning it down, huh?
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harmony korine sucks. rich guy masquerading as a record keeper of what weird poor people are like. gently caress outta here faker!!
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Jun 24, 2021 15:45
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when he was going around deliberately inciting people into beating him up i would have flung myself at him like a wild chimpanzee unprompted
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Jun 24, 2021 15:46
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Nobody on the production was like, "hey, maybe let's tone this down"? I can kind of understand Watto in the prequels, because George Lucas had total control over everything and could insist on a greedy semite with a thick accent talking about nubians if that's what he wanted to do. The Harry Potter movies seem like more than a few people were involved and that they had time to respond to, say, criticism of covetous goblins who control the world's banks hoarding piles of gold by literally wrapping their arms around stacks of gold coins.
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Jun 24, 2021 15:58
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People are rarely inclined to pull the brakes on the money train.
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Jun 24, 2021 16:28
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I think the people involved were just so much into pumping out Harry Potter fantasy creatures that they didn't even think that "Goblin man banker that loves money" could be perceived as a racist caricature.
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Jun 24, 2021 16:35
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Hopefully by the time Jenny does another video on Galaxy's Edge the park will have removed the shopkeeper who sells expensive and tacky-looking merchandise who is also a member of Watto's species so she can just skip over that.
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Jun 24, 2021 17:07
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Didn’t they double down in Episode 2 and give Watto payots or something?
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Jun 24, 2021 17:31
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Pants Donkey posted:Didn’t they double down in Episode 2 and give Watto payots or something? They gave him a hat. I don't think it was an Orthodox-lookin' hat I just remember it being a hat, to show that it was like ten years since the last movie I guess. He grew a hat.
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Jun 24, 2021 17:35
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Pants Donkey posted:Didn’t they double down in Episode 2 and give Watto payots or something? No, he's wearing part of a droid's head cause he's broke.
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Jun 24, 2021 17:35
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Pants Donkey posted:Didn’t they double down in Episode 2 and give Watto payots or something? They gave him a beard that definitely doesn't help differentiate him from a caricature of a Jewish person, and the hat isn't identical but has a round brim that extends over his face and was enough to make me gasp in shock when he showed up in Episode II. I mean, it's hard not to see it as doubling down after he was already pretty bad in the first movie:  At least Boss Nass didn't come back in the other movies.
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Jun 24, 2021 17:47
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Viewtiful Jew posted:They gave him a hat. I don't think it was an Orthodox-lookin' hat I just remember it being a hat, to show that it was like ten years since the last movie I guess. He grew a hat. 
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Jun 24, 2021 17:48
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"he grew a hat" is a very upsetting turn of phrase
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Jun 24, 2021 17:48
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It's the top part of the tiny eye bots he ahd in his shop.
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Jun 24, 2021 17:51
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Looked up Watto on Wookieepedia and what do you know he has a far too fleshed out backstory.
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Jun 24, 2021 17:52
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MonsieurChoc posted:No, he's wearing part of a droid's head cause he's broke. MonsieurChoc posted:It's the top part of the tiny eye bots he ahd in his shop. Nope  what an absolute fool, not remembering what a DUM-series pit droid head looks like...
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Jun 24, 2021 18:09
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Kim Justice posted:The contrast between the vtuber anime avatar and the incredibly violent way they play most games will never not be hilarious to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9rOXkwfuac
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Jun 24, 2021 18:19
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Piell posted:Nope I mean minus the eye piece that looks right.
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Jun 24, 2021 18:57
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Garrand posted:May continues her Iceberg video in part 2 i enjoyed this series as someone who likes to gawk at weird and grotesque poo poo but without dedicating any more of my life to experiencing it first hand. there are so many bad movies in the world
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Jun 24, 2021 19:43
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JordanKai posted:
Book 7 is where we finally learn stuff about goblin society besides that they are hook-nosed bankers. We learned they don't have a concept of "gifts" and consider everything given to a non-goblin to be a "loan". They can make metal that absorbs anything that does not destroy it, making it stronger. This is key to the plot in a way that they can't downplay, because the Sword of Griffindor from Book 2 is goblin-made, and it absorbed Basilisk venom, so it's one of the few things that can destroy horcruxes. They end up having to barter the sword away to get a goblin to cooperate with them, then he betrays them. And oop it turns out the sword itself doesn't give a poo poo about goblin loan culture and is eternally loyal to Griffindor House members, so it returns just in time to smash some more horcruxes and save the day! Woo! fun hater posted:harmony korine sucks. rich guy masquerading as a record keeper of what weird poor people are like. gently caress outta here faker!! Every current and past member of the Pussy Posse should be sentenced to a life locked in the pillory
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Jun 24, 2021 20:40
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Nuns with Guns posted:Every current and past member of the Pussy Posse should be sentenced to a life locked in the pillory they considered it but they realized David Blaine would just keep escaping and letting the others out
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Jun 24, 2021 20:44
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT4bDCb3fmI Taking a look at the wholly unexplored and clumsy racism in Shadow & Bone.
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Jun 24, 2021 20:57
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Lotus Aura posted:I dunno about that. I think it's kinda great that her additions include actual hosed up poo poo next to weird bad "it's just a prank, bro" nonsense like Trash Humpers. I mean, I'll grudgingly take Harmony Korine or Lars Von Trier's stuff over "Vomit necrodolls part 4" for a list, but it's true nobody ever needs to see Nostalgia Critic's The Wall.
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Jun 24, 2021 21:00
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Kim Justice posted:The contrast between the vtuber anime avatar and the incredibly violent way they play most games will never not be hilarious to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olLZvkmZikk
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Jun 24, 2021 21:05
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Jimbot posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT4bDCb3fmI Perhaps it's because I haven't read the original books? She brings up that Alina experiences disproportionately more racism than the other PoC and my response is just "...Yeah? And?" That didn't feel like a weakness of worldbuilding, to me it just signaled that Shu-han people experience more racism in this world, which is worldbuilding. To me, when Alina shows no interest in going to Shu-han if she gets to travel, it's actually a smart way to indicate that Alina herself has absorbed much of Ravkan identity and doesn't even consider Shu-han to be a viable destination. This video just feels half-finished. Xiran clinically describes the manner in which this story portrays its fantasy anti-Asian racism, but doesn't seem to go the next step towards elaborating on why this portrayal is bad.
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Jun 24, 2021 21:32
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star wars is a franchise where everyone's so busy being upset about racial caricatures that they consistently ignore that a huge main thrust of the films is "the old white people create and maintain various systems of slavery"
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Jun 24, 2021 21:38
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BrianWilly posted:Speaking as another Chinese-American, I'm going to be the other side of the hegemony here and say that I found Xiran's points here to be very strange and disagreed with almost everything she said. She points this out by saying there's another full-blooded Shu-han character and the show does nothing with it. It's not world-building if it builds towards nothing. That's just window dressing. From my perspective the show handles racism and class struggle in the same way Bioshock Infinite does.
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Jun 24, 2021 21:40
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Jimbot posted:She points this out by saying there's another full-blooded Shu-han character and the show does nothing with it. It's not world-building if it builds towards nothing. That's just window dressing. From my perspective the show handles racism and class struggle in the same way Bioshock Infinite does. Perhaps there's a missed opportunity for Alina to have bonded with Botkin, but along the same lines, the fact that she doesn't tells me just as much about her.
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Jun 24, 2021 21:48
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Kim Justice posted:The contrast between the vtuber anime avatar and the incredibly violent way they play most games will never not be hilarious to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRr2jzva_4
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Jun 24, 2021 21:58
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Jimbot posted:It's not world-building if it builds towards nothing. That's just window dressing.
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Jun 24, 2021 23:26
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Jimbot posted:She points this out by saying there's another full-blooded Shu-han character and the show does nothing with it. It's not world-building if it builds towards nothing. That's just window dressing. From my perspective the show handles racism and class struggle in the same way Bioshock Infinite does. Isn't the majority of world building largely pointless? Nerds latch on to world building the same way they do magic systems, because they love the pointless pedantry which is why back when we had the TVTropes threads every aspiring troper author would always write pages and pages about their world building and video gamey magic systems but not a single one would have gently caress all about narrative, character or plot structure.
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Jun 25, 2021 01:26
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Why is the answer to noticing racism, "eh who cares, none of it matters any ways?" The video talks about how Asian people would like to enjoy the same things you do without needless bullshit. But just from the responses I'm assuming y'all don't have to deal with microaggressions that can end in your death.
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Jun 25, 2021 01:43
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Nuebot posted:Isn't the majority of world building largely pointless? Nerds latch on to world building the same way they do magic systems, because they love the pointless pedantry which is why back when we had the TVTropes threads every aspiring troper author would always write pages and pages about their world building and video gamey magic systems but not a single one would have gently caress all about narrative, character or plot structure. World building is important too. If you don't do that, you get a setting that feels like it only exists for the main characters, and detracts from the narrative. At that point, the story might as well just be set in the real world. Granted an author can obviously go too far. It also provides interesting plot opportunities.
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Jun 25, 2021 01:47
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Bleck posted:star wars is a franchise where everyone's so busy being upset about racial caricatures that they consistently ignore that a huge main thrust of the films is "the old white people create and maintain various systems of slavery" Hey, did someone "Star Wars" and "slavery"? Let's see what Wookieepedia has to say about the matter... quote:For Anakin, who later trained as a Jedi, his history as a slave created some difficult emotional complications for his prospect of life in the Jedi Order. Because slavery naturally bred and intensified the dark side-inducing emotions of hatred and fear—anathema to the Jedi, as fostering these feelings was antithetical to the Jedi tenets and beliefs that strengthened their connection to the light side of the Force[3]—Anakin faced peculiar challenges of the mind and spirit in his quest not only to become a Jedi Knight, but also to fulfill his destiny as "the Chosen One".[4][5][6] Thanks, Star Wars!
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Jun 25, 2021 01:47
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She is terrifying
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Jun 25, 2021 01:50
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Bleck posted:star wars is a franchise where everyone's so busy being upset about racial caricatures that they consistently ignore that a huge main thrust of the films is "the old white people create and maintain various systems of slavery" you could simply make the exact same movies without the racial caricatures and the message of the movies would be completely unchanged. Make watto not have a big nose and a yiddish accent and every other aspect of the movie is the same. if they wanted people to care about the message of the movie they shouldn't have put in distractions that muddy the message. also i don't think the people who make Star Wars actually want people to care about the message of the movie in any real way Casey Finnigan fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Jun 25, 2021 |
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Jun 25, 2021 03:21
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The only good Star Wars thing was Shadows of the Empire on N64 cause you could input WAMPA STOMPA in the password screen and play as a Wampa
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Jun 25, 2021 03:29
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The telescoping plastic lightsaber toys that I had when I was a kid were also cool
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Jun 25, 2021 03:31
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Casey Finnigan posted:if they wanted people to care about the message of the movie they shouldn't have put in distractions that muddy the message. the ongoing reaction to the caricatures and continuous refusal to engage with arguably the core thesis of the first six films is arguably the point literally the things you are saying, right now, is the point, KingKalamari posted:Hey, did someone "Star Wars" and "slavery"? Let's see what Wookieepedia has to say about the matter... star wars fans are famous for not getting star wars so let me summarize anakin skywalker: anakin was a slave who thought it would be cool to be a jedi and then he realizes that they're the same thing Bleck fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Jun 25, 2021 |
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Jun 25, 2021 04:16
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then he rejects slavery by killing a bunch of kids and becoming a slave. powerful stuff.
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Jun 25, 2021 04:21
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