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Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

Baron von Eevl posted:

The only benefit to doing a big sale is Tony's cut maxing out at 100k, to me that's just not worth it when I can sell on a crowded server (seriously, the upgraded speedo makes things so much easier than MC sales where you're praying nobody blows up your lovely PostOp truck) and get like 15-20% over Tony's cut.

My super secret NC strategy is running cargo, guns, and weed cuz i turned off the other 4 MC things. Set it and forget it, every few weeks I get that call that says "Hey your cargo is maxxed out' and i go sell it. Those 3 when full are into Pounder territory, so its usually a pretty leisurely sale, and its about $1.1m, and then i forget about it till next time

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Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

Shutting down the servers of a peer to peer game.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

Zesty posted:

Shutting down the servers of a peer to peer game.

They should just shut all the RDO servers instead

e no I don't remember what peer to peer means

e2 wait doesn't that mean it doesn't need servers, that doesn't make sense but that's how kazaa worked. Uh, ask your parents what kazaa was I guess

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
If nothing else things like inventory and money need to be handled on a central server.

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

Peer-to-peer as it relates to GTA is gross. When you first boot up, you load game assets from local files, it reaches out to the R* servers to get your character data, then does whatever voodoo it does to select a lobby for you to join. Now the p2p magic starts as you and every player in that lobby exchange data about your characters(this is kinda what that recent loading time patch resolved- it still does this but in a much less dum way) and then you get to play. Periodic saves of character data get sent to the R* servers. This is the root of the heist glitches that you can quit and everyone else still sees the heist as finishing so they get paid. Your client sees it failing so it lets you do it again. Hooray! Another fun thing is if a player reports you, that report goes to YOUR client, who then turns it in to the R* server next time it saves. This is why when you push the report button on a kid with a menu running, it's pretty common for them to see that report, disregard it, and play the reverse card to crash you lol

Ygolonac
Nov 26, 2007

pre:
*************
CLUTCH  NIXON
*************

The Hero We Need

Fart.Bleed.Repeat. posted:

Another fun thing is if a player reports you, that report goes to YOUR client, who then turns it in to the R* server next time it saves. This is why when you push the report button on a kid with a menu running, it's pretty common for them to see that report, disregard it, and play the reverse card to crash you lol

If RDO does the same thing, that would explain some of the fuckiness I've seen.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Fart.Bleed.Repeat. posted:

Another fun thing is if a player reports you, that report goes to YOUR client, who then turns it in to the R* server next time it saves. This is why when you push the report button on a kid with a menu running, it's pretty common for them to see that report, disregard it, and play the reverse card to crash you lol
lol ohhh

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

I'm dipping my toes for the first time in a few years, still on ps4.

I'm trying to do the thing where you flip the oppressor mk 1 upside down and it glides really far without losing altitude.

I can't get it to work, the bike keeps flipping itself over and i wind up going in the opposite direction.

Am i doing it wrong or did they fix the physics? Either way i should be able to back flip.

Do you have to retract the wings at a certain point?

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

titties posted:

I'm dipping my toes for the first time in a few years, still on ps4.

I'm trying to do the thing where you flip the oppressor mk 1 upside down and it glides really far without losing altitude.

I can't get it to work, the bike keeps flipping itself over and i wind up going in the opposite direction.

Am i doing it wrong or did they fix the physics? Either way i should be able to back flip.

Do you have to retract the wings at a certain point?

I think they fixed the Oppressor1 tricks

sheepdemon
Feb 15, 2004

. . . before turning the gun on himself
I had a hacker drop into my game today and make it rain money and action figures - will this all get confiscated back? Was only 300k or something.

Solanumai
Mar 26, 2006

It's shrine maiden, not shrine maid!
I got like 15 million dropped on me like $2000 at a time on Christmas Eve and it never got taken. I doubt it.

That was a really blessed lobby though, the hacker made a little arena out of train cars to keep everyone safe while they soaked up money.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

🔊😴
More recently I've had hackers either spawn aggro'ed swat teams on every corner and induce your own apartment who will attack you I even with no wanted level OR most recently a guy who teleported everyone to the cayo perico dance party.

edit I had a modder give me a bunch of weapons once but eventually r* took them back, otherwise I've never lost anything a modder spawned.

Distorted Kiwi
Jun 11, 2014

"C'mon! Let's tune our weapons!"
Yeah, I find that you tend to lose weapons, sometimes weeks after a modder bestows them on you.

I always just immediately spend modded-money for plausible deniability.

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

sheepdemon posted:

I had a hacker drop into my game today and make it rain money and action figures - will this all get confiscated back? Was only 300k or something.

short answer: probably not

Chubbs
Feb 13, 2008

In a thousand years, Gandahar was destroyed. A thousand years ago, Gandahar will be saved, and what can't be avoided will be.
Grimey Drawer

sheepdemon posted:

I had a hacker drop into my game today and make it rain money and action figures - will this all get confiscated back? Was only 300k or something.

They'll most likely just remove the action figures (you'll still keep the rp from them) but not touch the money.

Distorted Kiwi
Jun 11, 2014

"C'mon! Let's tune our weapons!"
You know, if I knew how often I was going to get patted down by that Cayo guard, I would have petitioned Rockstar for a series of increasingly ridiculous disguises.

Huge false moustache, Groucho glasses, horse head mask, finally just arrive dressed as an exact clone of the guard himself.

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

Most of the old ps4 crew fell off and i haven't bought anything since the nightclub update, which means that i don't have access to the newer heists.

If someone on ps4 (bitbasher) would be willing to hold my hand through the new heist i would be very grateful

BitBasher
Jun 6, 2004

You've got to know the rules before you can break 'em. Otherwise, it's no fun.


titties posted:

Most of the old ps4 crew fell off and i haven't bought anything since the nightclub update, which means that i don't have access to the newer heists.

If someone on ps4 (bitbasher) would be willing to hold my hand through the new heist i would be very grateful

Sure! I just walked a friend through his first cayo a couple days ago! How much money do you have to start with on the sub and what not? I'm actually off work the next few days, having thrown out my back because I'm old.

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

BitBasher posted:

Sure! I just walked a friend through his first cayo a couple days ago! How much money do you have to start with on the sub and what not? I'm actually off work the next few days, having thrown out my back because I'm old.

I have about 5 mil but i was hoping you would host anyway

BitBasher
Jun 6, 2004

You've got to know the rules before you can break 'em. Otherwise, it's no fun.


No worries, I was asking because the first cayo after you get your sub is different and I think more annoying than every other time you will do it. That one is beneficial to help someone through the first time I'm heading to bed now but I'll be on tomorrow.

I haven't don't the casino heist yet, but Cayo is straight up cake compared to the original heists and the Doomsday heists.

JHomer722
Jul 30, 2006

And you, you ridiculous people, you expect me to help you.

sheepdemon posted:

I had a hacker drop into my game today and make it rain money and action figures - will this all get confiscated back? Was only 300k or something.

I just tried Online for the first time yesterday and have no clue what’s normal and what’s griefing. I did like the money and action figures more than the constant auto-explosion and wacky physics engine, though.

Remy Marathe
Mar 15, 2007

_________===D ~ ~ _\____/

The griefing is normal, but random. I like to play in public lobbies when I want to live on the edge, or don't sense anyone being fucky with mod menus, but to avoid growing to hate modders on PC I'd suggest having a mechanism to easily kick yourself into a solo public lobby when you spot someone screwing with your game. I never get mad, just leave. There are lots of methods on the internet, but I've done it this way with only trusted tools:

Downloaded PSTools from Microsoft:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/file-and-disk-utilities

Then made a powershell script that uses pssuspend to suspend the process just long enough to kick to solo public lobby:
########################

$DelaySeconds= 7
$ProcName= "GTA5"
$PSToolsPath= 'C:\YOUR_PATH_TO_PSTOOLS'

$GTAPID=$(Get-Process $ProcName).Id

Start-Process -FilePath "$($PSToolsPath+"\pssuspend.exe")" -ArgumentList "$GTAPID" -Wait
Start-Sleep -s $DelaySeconds
Start-Process -FilePath "$($PSToolsPath+"\pssuspend.exe")" -ArgumentList "-r $GTAPID" -Wait

Two Beans
Nov 27, 2003

dabbin' on em
Pillbug
SessionSweeper is great for a pubbie-free GTA:O experience.

https://github.com/Dysanix/SessionSweeper

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

JHomer722 posted:

I just tried Online for the first time yesterday and have no clue what’s normal and what’s griefing. I did like the money and action figures more than the constant auto-explosion and wacky physics engine, though.

Read this, it will help and i'm not just saying that because i wrote it

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1An_kcB7WFepgxEayKKNRCBORdxvEuwV59rW1EXyXQOg

As to the definition of griefing, it's like pornography, you know it when you see it

BitBasher
Jun 6, 2004

You've got to know the rules before you can break 'em. Otherwise, it's no fun.


Hey Titties, what's your PSN handle again?

Presto
Nov 22, 2002

Keep calm and Harry on.

Distorted Kiwi posted:

You know, if I knew how often I was going to get patted down by that Cayo guard, I would have petitioned Rockstar for a series of increasingly ridiculous disguises.

Huge false moustache, Groucho glasses, horse head mask, finally just arrive dressed as an exact clone of the guard himself.

I always use the guard truck to get in, and you'd think that guy at the gate to the compound would wise up. "The last 20 times I let in a guy with a ginger mullet poo poo got stolen.... but, eh, go ahead."

Unless Rubio just shoots him before he has a chance to tell everyone about the guy with a ginger mullet and replaces him with an identical guard.

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

BitBasher posted:

Hey Titties, what's your PSN handle again?

i'll never tell

Thanks for running me through it. Alpha and i tried to run it again after you left and it glitched it over and over until we gave up.

BitBasher
Jun 6, 2004

You've got to know the rules before you can break 'em. Otherwise, it's no fun.


titties posted:

i'll never tell

Thanks for running me through it. Alpha and i tried to run it again after you left and it glitched it over and over until we gave up.

Hah! :rockstar: And you're welcome man, it's fun to do!

How did it glitch? If you're spotted the escape can really suck. It sucks so much to be unreliable, really.

Remy Marathe
Mar 15, 2007

_________===D ~ ~ _\____/

Let me see if I've done the Superyacht Lifestyle properly:

1) Buy a Pisces for half-off.
2) Feel buyer's remorse almost immediately.
3) Spend another $250,000 anyway changing the lights around, thanks to sunk cost fallacy.
4) Have fun playing through the 6 missions once, decide it wasn't the worst way to have blown $4 Million. Regret becomes acceptance.
5) Seldom return again, except when I feel the particular need to sit in an offshore hottub for a while and remind myself I have a personal yacht floating out there.

Did I miss anything?

BitBasher
Jun 6, 2004

You've got to know the rules before you can break 'em. Otherwise, it's no fun.


Remy Marathe posted:

Let me see if I've done the Superyacht Lifestyle properly:

1) Buy a Pisces for half-off.
2) Feel buyer's remorse almost immediately.
3) Spend another $250,000 anyway changing the lights around, thanks to sunk cost fallacy.
4) Have fun playing through the 6 missions once, decide it wasn't the worst way to have blown $4 Million. Regret becomes acceptance.
5) Seldom return again, except when I feel the particular need to sit in an offshore hottub for a while and remind myself I have a personal yacht floating out there.

Did I miss anything?

I bought one last night, I took a shortcut and named mine "Buyer's Remorse"! One and done!

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

Parking your Kosatka directly underneath your Yacht so the Yacht's missile defenses actually do something is kind of a funny trick

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


Remy Marathe posted:

Let me see if I've done the Superyacht Lifestyle properly:

1) Buy a Pisces for half-off.
2) Feel buyer's remorse almost immediately.
3) Spend another $250,000 anyway changing the lights around, thanks to sunk cost fallacy.
4) Have fun playing through the 6 missions once, decide it wasn't the worst way to have blown $4 Million. Regret becomes acceptance.
5) Seldom return again, except when I feel the particular need to sit in an offshore hottub for a while and remind myself I have a personal yacht floating out there.

Did I miss anything?

Nope, you've nailed it, down to never even bothering to equip the Captain's uniform reward outfit.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Otacon posted:

Nope, you've nailed it, down to never even bothering to equip the Captain's uniform reward outfit.

there's a reward outfit???

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


Psion posted:

there's a reward outfit???

It's a reward for #4 on the list we're referencing, playing through your yacht captain's questline. It was "recently" added a year ago or so.

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008



Remy Marathe posted:

Let me see if I've done the Superyacht Lifestyle properly:

1) Buy a Pisces for half-off.
2) Feel buyer's remorse almost immediately.
3) Spend another $250,000 anyway changing the lights around, thanks to sunk cost fallacy.
4) Have fun playing through the 6 missions once, decide it wasn't the worst way to have blown $4 Million. Regret becomes acceptance.
5) Seldom return again, except when I feel the particular need to sit in an offshore hottub for a while and remind myself I have a personal yacht floating out there.

Did I miss anything?

sniping players on the beaches

BitBasher
Jun 6, 2004

You've got to know the rules before you can break 'em. Otherwise, it's no fun.


mp5 posted:

Parking your Kosatka directly underneath your Yacht so the Yacht's missile defenses actually do something is kind of a funny trick

That's literally the only reason I bought one!

PremiumBlend
Jun 12, 2002

We did it little buddy...

Otacon posted:

Nope, you've nailed it, down to never even bothering to equip the Captain's uniform reward outfit.

While I never wear the Captain's uniform itself, the Captain Hat can be worn separately with any outfit and is a great way of showing off your Bad Decisions to the whole world.

Fart.Bleed.Repeat.
Sep 29, 2001

Otacon posted:

Nope, you've nailed it, down to never even bothering to equip the Captain's uniform reward outfit.

I wore it a few weeks ago when captain stubing died IRL

spookykid
Apr 28, 2006

I am an awkward fellow
after all
Discord is in the OP, but still for new folks that are just joining by "last post": https://discord.gg/e7DsJJt

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titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

BitBasher posted:

Hah! :rockstar: And you're welcome man, it's fun to do!

How did it glitch? If you're spotted the escape can really suck. It sucks so much to be unreliable, really.

During your favorite setup mission where you fly the plane across the map for 4 - 6 weeks. Once we hit the marker it just disappeared. The mission was still active but we never went to the island.

We tried twice I think, then we both closed gta completely and restarted. On the next attempt, alpha went to the island. I remained in the plane and crashed into the ocean.

Alpha was able to complete the mission but it just went to a blank screen, i don't think he got credit for it.

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