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cumshitter posted:is he still releasing lula? is this like an ongoing process? Lula has since been freed. Not sure what you are trying to get at here but it's an immense win for the left in Brazil.
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Pamela Springstein posted:these unfunyn misspellings must end. mods? do something. Lol at trying to call out the guy who actually puts efforts into the majority of his posts and is liked by the threads he posts in.
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Jun 26, 2021 20:41
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Apraxin posted:
I think this thread is an attempt to do that, and that's a good thing
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Seriously, if you want to extend an open hand to cspam then unbanning the many users who were banned due to long forgotten grudges would go a long way.
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Jun 26, 2021 20:42
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I think people can read two threads on games. one in cspam and one in games. in fact even games has many different threads on games and different games sub forums
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Jun 26, 2021 20:43
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Lol at trying to call out the guy who actually puts efforts into the majority of his posts and is liked by the threads he posts in. not calling anyone out. I like Gradenko. they're a better poster than me. just pointing out that statements that trump misspellings need to be removed ring hollow.
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croup coughfield posted:my hope - however naive and optimistic - is that the more egregiously unfunny idiots will be less likely to post in the rest of cspam, because its more distant and their brain parasites reduce fine motor control so its harder to make that many clicks. i used to enjoy cspam quite a bit some years ago, and its been disappointing to see what threads like the trump thread turned it into Just out here literally dehumanizing people for posting wrong. Wild stuff.
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Lol at trying to call out the guy who actually puts efforts into the majority of his posts and is liked by the threads he posts in. i like his posts and I enjoy his phillipines posts when he chooses to post about it as well because not a lot of people post about that region.
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plinkey is a saint. that’s my feedback.
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Jun 26, 2021 20:45
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euphronius posted:I think people can read two threads on games. one in cspam and one in games. in fact even games has many different threads on games and different games sub forums While we’re at it please more people post in the Falcom thread.
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Jun 26, 2021 20:46
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Josh Christ posted:Free benghazi 2 Free him
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Jun 26, 2021 20:47
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Free him her
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Seriously, if you want to extend an open hand to cspam then unbanning the many users who were banned due to long forgotten grudges would go a long way. Literally make them all IKs. We need a total turnover first and then let's see if any other changes need to be made 
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croup coughfield posted:its possible - ive also changed a lot over that time and im sure that plays into it. however, the chats threads and the trump thread in particular flooded this forum with people who not only had no actual political ideas or ideals, but aren't interested in developing any. its just aesthetics and spectator sport - noise - and its tiresome. that poo poo doesn't belong as a primary thread focus in a political forum. they can have the exact same conversations about their rgb funko pops or whatever the gently caress they talk about in the chat forum, where no one will mistakenly open the thread expecting a discussion of anti-capitalist politics croup coughfield posted:like why the gently caress is there a thread about casting spells in a politics forum personally i think you don't understand the trump thread or the subforum as a whole, if you think we have a bunch of threads that are "apolitical" or "non-leftist" my take on literally every change to the forums structure proposed so far is that it's just meddling for meddling's sake. nobody is being hurt by the way the forum has been organized for years now. these suggestions are just a good way to make people unhappy and create divisions in the community where none existed before. however to pick up on what a few other people have said, there are bans and permas still in place that were deeply lovely and the product of the previous administration flailing around as it died. i couldn't give you a full list of folks and i know some people like crazycloud have returned, but it might be worth asking around for candidate cases to review
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Sorry, Free her.
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Smythe posted:plinkey is a saint. that’s my feedback. 
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Jun 26, 2021 20:52
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Jazerus posted:personally i think you don't understand the trump thread or the subforum as a whole, if you think we have a bunch of threads that are "apolitical" or "non-leftist" seems like a perfect opportunity to use the upcoming FOrums Court feature. You have my axe. 
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Jun 26, 2021 20:54
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Jazerus posted:personally i think you don't understand the trump thread or the subforum as a whole, if you think we have a bunch of threads that are "apolitical" or "non-leftist" mormonpartyboat was one of the finest posters not only of cspam but the whole site, he did nothing wrong and tried to help deescalation and clarification during all the bullshit that went down, and then self-permabanned out of frustration because of lowtax. I don't know if he'd even want to come back, but it's the top of my list for outstanding unjustified permaban candidates. He's smart and funny and gets it and does good photoshop work and cspam is poorer for his absence. also can someone push the button to let me actually re reg? Jeff said I'm not permabanned and I've been posting all year and it's been lovely, but I still can't have my screen name back? Idgi.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Carving up the forum into one for big and small threads feels like changing something just to change it. Strictly categorizing threads does not seem very c-spam. The best answer might be making the button to sort by thread creation time more prominent. Absolutely, but also Squizzle was hyping having total forum control so let's do something cool imo
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AnimeIsTrash posted:Lula has since been freed. Not sure what you are trying to get at here but it's an immense win for the left in Brazil. i only engaged with you about greenwald because i wanted to take a nap and my white noise machine is broken. greenwald is boring
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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what they are going to have for lunch. Historically that tends to be the environment that is provided for soliciting feedback about one subforum among other competing subforums.
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ram dass in hell posted:mormonpartyboat was one of the finest posters not only of cspam but the whole site, he did nothing wrong and tried to help deescalation and clarification during all the bullshit that went down, and then self-permabanned out of frustration because of lowtax. I don't know if he'd even want to come back, but it's the top of my list for outstanding unjustified permaban candidates. He's smart and funny and gets it and does good photoshop work and cspam is poorer for his absence. absolutely. can't count how many pieces of classic cspamalia were the product of mpb and other posters lost at that time and they were good, well-liked members of the community Smythe posted:seems like a perfect opportunity to use the upcoming FOrums Court feature. You have my axe. hell yeah 
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euphronius posted:I think people can read two threads on games. one in cspam and one in games. in fact even games has many different threads on games and different games sub forums I post about Yakuza like in like 5 different forums. It's fine, who cares if I get confused which one im in
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Athanatos posted:[*]People who deserve recognition for being great here and adding to the community. Forums are nothing without worth-a-poo poo people, who is under-recognized and deserves some props? Hello I am here from the climate change thread to support doomposting, because it is the only informed stance on the issue thus a necessary component of any sane conversation, and also to say that Perry Mason Jar does occasional cool roundups of news about extreme weather events that those of us in the thread appreciate. Some props are due there.
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Jun 26, 2021 21:02
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Athanatos posted:While a lot of Politics Forums reports are Misc (no action), we have had issues in the past where people refuse to report anything for whatever reason. It lead to things horrible things just sitting in threads for weeks and people going "Why wasn't anything done about this?" Then they should post about it and other people that care can chime in; if no one does than oh well
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croup coughfield posted:like why the gently caress is there a thread about casting spells in a politics forum c'mon, no need for bad faith say, many unions around the world have (or used to have) many community activities that didn't have anything to do with organizing, like weekly football matches, hobby classes like cooking or gardening available to anyone in the member's family, so on and on. Having those activities were important to build solidarity, which meant much better organization. of course, cspam is not an union, it is an internet forum. Still, it remains a relevant comparison: we must avoid to become so narrowminded about the political (where the only thing that matters is politics and theory) because, as it turns out, this very strict focus only serves to harm the much more important factor of having a community that can foster socialist politics. Someone may come across something very interesting in the trump thread and go to the Marxism thread to learn more about. It already happened more than several times. This organic, relational approach is one of the best ways to actually advance leftist causes; if the concern with political relevance is the main issue, what do we truly gain, in the purest and concrete political sense, by being sanctimonious about how and why people should interact with one another?
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ram dass in hell posted:mormonpartyboat was one of the finest posters not only of cspam but the whole site, he did nothing wrong and tried to help deescalation and clarification during all the bullshit that went down, and then self-permabanned out of frustration because of lowtax. I don't know if he'd even want to come back, but it's the top of my list for outstanding unjustified permaban candidates. He's smart and funny and gets it and does good photoshop work and cspam is poorer for his absence. this
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i like the cspam forum and think the mods are doing a great job. honest and 100% earnest post lol. Thank you mods and posters.
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Forums jubilee. Erase all bans and permabans and welcome all our prodigal sons and daughters back with forgiveness and open arms except the actual pedophiles I guess. Hit the big ol' reset button and see what happens next. (I am honestly not sure if I'm joking about this or not.) Anyway, on the megathread topic, I'm generally a believer in not disrupting existing threads without a really loving good reason for doing so, because that's going to cause a lot of chaos and hurt feelings, and the benefit would have to be really massive for it to be worth it. "I would be more comfortable if every thread fit into its proper box" is not what I would consider a really loving good reason, nor really is "a few people from this thread are generating complaints elseforum". I think the monthly reboots of the Trump Thread As Was worked well enough. I've fallen away from the current chat thread though I used to post regularly enough in the old Trump Threads, but that's okay, people seem to like it, and I don't see that as a bad thing. (Also I think the line between 'focused topical thread' and 'chat thread' is a lot blurrier than some might like to think, and may even just be 'do I approve of this thread and its posters or not' in some cases.)
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Jazerus posted:absolutely. can't count how many pieces of classic cspamalia were the product of mpb and other posters lost at that time and they were good, well-liked members of the community amnesty for all cspam political exiles, it would be a positive ameliorative to the post quality question instead of a negative one
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croup coughfield posted:its possible - ive also changed a lot over that time and im sure that plays into it. however, the chats threads and the trump thread in particular flooded this forum with people who not only had no actual political ideas or ideals, but aren't interested in developing any. its just aesthetics and spectator sport - noise - and its tiresome. that poo poo doesn't belong as a primary thread focus in a political forum. they can have the exact same conversations about their rgb funko pops or whatever the gently caress they talk about in the chat forum, where no one will mistakenly open the thread expecting a discussion of anti-capitalist politics yup
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croup coughfield posted:like why the gently caress is there a thread about casting spells in a politics forum Because 2e is the superior d&d system and it has to be explained over and over that movement took place throughout combat (baldurs gate style) and not purely turned based. Frankly this should be stickied
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Red Baron posted:that’s a pretty extreme way to phrase it, but ignoring that let me ask you a question that I think naturally extends from the first ideological standpoint I listed: a concrete example of leftists congregating to discuss an ostensibly non-political subject in a political light is pener's games thread. it started out pretty great, discussing something a lot of people are interested in specifically from a standpoint of how cultural artifacts reflect politics and ideology. i havent read it in awhile so i dont know if its still that way, but that to me is what a "non-political" subject being discussed in a political forum should look like. it should have a specific subject of discussion that is directly linked to actual politics, even if the subject itself is not necessarily political. chat threads start out off-topic in a non-chat forum. if you need a special place to post what you had for breakfast where you have been assured it will only be read and responded to by people who share your views on tree law then you dont need a forum, you need a doctor. Nonsense posted:You're not doing poo poo. shut up you dumb bitch
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Horseshoe theory posted:Make Avshalom an admin. and yeah the only good argument for moving the trump thread would be to give every single one of its posters buttons without interfering with the rest of c-spam unfortunately i just don't think theres anything systemic to be done about a bunch of individual posters convinced that their style of posting and preferred hangs are the main attraction of a forum that has very much more to offer. i mean its literally been shown that they do keep it more to themselves, proportionally, than any other thread except the brand-new UTC+10 one lmao. don't pull those posters to be mods but they shouldn't be put out in the cold; postin with the boys isn't a crime
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croup coughfield posted:its possible - ive also changed a lot over that time and im sure that plays into it. however, the chats threads and the trump thread in particular flooded this forum with people who not only had no actual political ideas or ideals, but aren't interested in developing any. its just aesthetics and spectator sport - noise - and its tiresome. that poo poo doesn't belong as a primary thread focus in a political forum. they can have the exact same conversations about their rgb funko pops or whatever the gently caress they talk about in the chat forum, where no one will mistakenly open the thread expecting a discussion of anti-capitalist politics yeah, I mean, there are people who aren't really what you'd call political in a constantly plugged in way, but they pick up poo poo by posting in those threads and feel like they have found a place in those threads because of how easy going they are and it's good to have those people who vaguely know that poo poo sucks, but might pick up some more of the why and history, driving them out because they don't know that the VP doesn't vote on a 50:50 tie on a vote to bring a bill to a debate/vote in the senate would be completely the wrong move if you want a hard-core politics only thread on a specific subject (1000 words per post minimum, double spaced, times new roman) in CSPAM, go ahead and make one
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HookedOnChthonics posted:and yeah the only good argument for moving the trump thread would be to give every single one of its posters buttons without interfering with the rest of c-spam HookedOnChthonics posted:jazerus, i understand why you might have this perception, but i want to challenge it--as an extremely unscientific measure i just copied the top posters lists from the top 6-7 threads in cspam rn into a notepad doc and started doing ctrl-f with big names from the trump thread leaderboard, and there's not a lot of overlap! post poorly formatted pictures of your
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croup coughfield posted:a concrete example of leftists congregating to discuss an ostensibly non-political subject in a political light is pener's games thread. it started out pretty great, discussing something a lot of people are interested in specifically from a standpoint of how cultural artifacts reflect politics and ideology. i havent read it in awhile so i dont know if its still that way, but that to me is what a "non-political" subject being discussed in a political forum should look like. it should have a specific subject of discussion that is directly linked to actual politics, even if the subject itself is not necessarily political. chat threads start out off-topic in a non-chat forum. Just make the threads you want.
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Lol why does it always come back to calling a huge group of people ill in some way because they post casually sometimes. Theres no need to pathologize your distaste for threads that arent sufficiently on topic of stuff you consider proper, doubly so since you in fact that those threads already
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