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Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Randalor posted:

Can you do me a solid and think up some good Macross games, preferably on the PSX?

I don't know if Macross Digital Mission VFX and VFX2 were good, but they were there, on the PSX

(I like that there was this one swank fighter design that had been around for like a decade, and when the developers wanted to include it in the first VFX, they realized that the main mecha designer for Macross had never put its robot mode down on paper so they had to get him back in the office)

But Robotech Battlecry was definitely fun, I played around with it on my old x-box a fair bit

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Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Re3make starts with language and subtitle selection

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!
A little thing form Guilty Gear Strive that I only learned because the English voice actor for Axl Low uploaded a vod of him first hearing his own performance in the game. Being an anime fighting game, there's a lot of instances of people calling out attack names. All of those attack names have been translated in previous games, so the English dub has a lot of strong callouts of the English names, like Gunflame or Potemkin Buster.

The one exception in the entire game: Axl's English callout for his Sickle Strike move instead calls it by its Japanese name, Rensengeki. And it turns out it's because Axl's voice actor is a huge fan of the series, and knows that nobody calls it Sickle Strike, even the English community calls it 'Rensengeki' because the Japanese callout for it is so iconic. So he asked if he could record that line, and that's the take they ended up using.

EDIT: Also, to confirm it for the people who click that video and go 'wait, is that': Yes, Axl Low is voiced by Octopimp, who got his voice acting start doing Homestuck fancomic dubs.

Cleretic has a new favorite as of 13:18 on Jun 26, 2021

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Phy posted:

I don't know if Macross Digital Mission VFX and VFX2 were good, but they were there, on the PSX

(I like that there was this one swank fighter design that had been around for like a decade, and when the developers wanted to include it in the first VFX, they realized that the main mecha designer for Macross had never put its robot mode down on paper so they had to get him back in the office)

But Robotech Battlecry was definitely fun, I played around with it on my old x-box a fair bit

Battlecry was the cel shaded one right? That game was loving sick as hell, smashing zentradi (not gonna look it up to see if I'm right but if thats what the enemies are called I am simultaneously amazed and appalled at the useless trivia my brain holds) mechs in the middle of cities getting destroyed, or flying around in space with giant spaceships and mechs.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Biplane posted:

Battlecry was the cel shaded one right? That game was loving sick as hell, smashing zentradi (not gonna look it up to see if I'm right but if thats what the enemies are called I am simultaneously amazed and appalled at the useless trivia my brain holds) mechs in the middle of cities getting destroyed, or flying around in space with giant spaceships and mechs.

I remember that one starting out kind of fun but got ruined by the terrible escort missions.

ookiimarukochan
Apr 4, 2011

Randalor posted:

Can you do me a solid and think up some good Macross games, preferably on the PSX?

the various Macross Frontier games on PSP/Vita/PS3 are great, Macross 30 is probably the best of them due to the fan-service

tribbledirigible
Jul 27, 2004
I finally beat the internet. The end boss was hard.

I remember being very confused when I first played Robotech Battlecry. Was that a Warhammer? Wait, what did they call those Lokis? IM DUELING A FLYING MARAUDER.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Neddy Seagoon posted:

Robotech Battlecry exists on PS2/GCN/Xbox and rules :colbert:.

I remember playing a Japan exclusive PSX title that was surprisingly good. I think it was Macross VF-X2.

a kitten
Aug 5, 2006

muscles like this! posted:

I remember that one starting out kind of fun but got ruined by the terrible escort missions.

The escort missions were so bad. But man, flipping between the 3 modes of the ValkyrieVeritech with their differing uses was top freaking notch

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Biplane posted:

zentradi (not gonna look it up to see if I'm right but if thats what the enemies are called I am simultaneously amazed and appalled at the useless trivia my brain holds)

Yes, and yes

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
I'm playing Bulletstorm Full Clip (captain swearwords Big fuckin adventure) as it was 3 quid in steam sale and I haven't played the original in the better part of a decade.
The pacing is, imo, spot on. New stuff is introduced at a good pace as you familiarise yourself, there's constant novelty and variation within a very linear framework. It's refreshing to play something so tight where the variations are in how you murder stuff rather than big mostly empty open world.
I also like the "hosed up resort" setting a lot, especially as it was released during the peak All Shooters Are Brown era.
Some of the humour hasn't aged well but my inner teenager gets a few chuckles. It knows it's dumb.

8/10 would kill dick again

Casnorf
Jun 14, 2002

Never drive a car when you're a fish
what does that even meannnnn

Opopanax
Aug 8, 2007

I HEX YE!!!


I still go back to Bulletstorm once in a while. It's not a technical marvel or anything but it's just so fun

Casnorf
Jun 14, 2002

Never drive a car when you're a fish
I will never 4get Waggleton P. Tallylicker. Never!

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
I think it's the "fun" factor that's keeping me entertained so much.
I was previously playing Metro Redux and as awesome as that is, and is a similar vintage, they could not be further apart in tone

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



In Mass Effect 3, there's an arcade you can go to on the Citadel where you can play various videogame minigames. In the back, there's a Tower of Hanoi cabinet, but if you try to use it Shepard just goes "I don't think so" :v:

Pseudohog
Apr 4, 2007
So a little thing in games is - Bulletstorm is currently 3 quid in the Steam summer sale, which qualifies as a little amount of money?
If you do not own this game yet then stop reading this thread and just go and buy it, and then you'll understand all the Waggleton P. Tallylicker jokes in future.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I'm currently trying out X-Man 2: Wolverine's Revenge. Onto part 3 of act 1.

I like how in all wolverine stories it's like "Oh god, Weapon X has escaped! Surely we have weapons that can stop him!" and i'm just like "You literally created him to be the Best Weapon. By Default, nothing else you have is going to come close. What you gonna throw out weapon Y and hope THEY don't go rogue too?" If you think you have a weapon better than wolverine, WHY AREN'T YOU USING THAT instead of him?!

Also the gameplay has got an amusing balance of "Run in and tank a bunch of damage while taking everyone out asap then hang out and let the healing factor meter that you accumulated while doing that do it's job."

TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



Natural Selection 2 is still kicking, and it's great if you like competitive FPS games that can turn around unexpectedly.

One of my favourite things is the alien lifeform called the Gorge, who is a kind of pig/dog support unit who is good at healing, building, or destroying enemy buildings and equipment. It has some cool and unique tools like 'babblers' which are tiny bugs who sit on the outside of your skin. They can act as armour for you or other teammates, or can be used to attack players and buildings, plus they regenerate over time. You also have 'clogs' for dancing blocking hallways or making climbable pillars of what is essentially solidified vomit, 'hydras' which are little spike shooting flower-turrets, but the best thing is the belly-slide where you more or less skateboard on your stomach and can use downward slopes to gain awesome momentum and drift to escape enemies (no points for tricks though).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbQz3lT_pwo

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino

Pseudohog posted:

So a little thing in games is - Bulletstorm is currently 3 quid in the Steam summer sale, which qualifies as a little amount of money?
If you do not own this game yet then stop reading this thread and just go and buy it, and then you'll understand all the Waggleton P. Tallylicker jokes in future.

I played through the Waggleton sequence yesterday and it's still very moving

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Play Bulletstorm or I will kill your dicks

BioEnchanted posted:

What you gonna throw out weapon Y and hope THEY don't go rogue too?

Pretty sure this is the plot of at least one comics arc

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009



BioEnchanted posted:

I like how in all wolverine stories it's like "Oh god, Weapon X has escaped! Surely we have weapons that can stop him!" and i'm just like "You literally created him to be the Best Weapon. By Default, nothing else you have is going to come close. What you gonna throw out weapon Y and hope THEY don't go rogue too?"

Ummmm... :actually: the X in his name is the Roman numeral for 10, not the letter X, so the next one would be XI. Furthermore...

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 10 hours!

haveblue posted:

Play Bulletstorm or I will kill your dicks

Pretty sure this is the plot of at least one comics arc

That's one of the stock Wolverine plots both in the comics and adaptations.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



rydiafan posted:

Ummmm... :actually: the X in his name is the Roman numeral for 10, not the letter X, so the next one would be XI. Furthermore...

Weapon XI you say?

That'd just be crazy!

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
I really don't like Ishi.

But I do very much adore leashy. Game would be so much less without it.

I have realised now that despite having played this first, and the latter only earlier this year for the first time, I'm getting serious Sunset Overdrive vibes off the colourful hyperswearviolence which is why inner child me is so entertained. Already getting bummed out cos I know I'm near the end, but for the cost of less than a pint of poo poo beer this is lovely

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



One of my main complaints about Mass Effect 2&3 was their switching to standard ammo pickups instead of the infinite recharge vs overheating mechanic from the first game, which I thought felt much better for the setting. Well, I finally found an "antique" weapon (the M-7 Lancer) that works along the old mechanics, and it feels so good. I've had a particle rifle that works that way for quite a while but I don't like the feel of its continuous beam, the standard assault rifle just feels so much better.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

Captain Hygiene posted:

One of my main complaints about Mass Effect 2&3 was their switching to standard ammo pickups instead of the infinite recharge vs overheating mechanic from the first game, which I thought felt much better for the setting. Well, I finally found an "antique" weapon (the M-7 Lancer) that works along the old mechanics, and it feels so good. I've had a particle rifle that works that way for quite a while but I don't like the feel of its continuous beam, the standard assault rifle just feels so much better.

If you got the PC version you can switch to the old system with some ini tweaks or mods or something. The game got pretty far in development before they decided to cut out the Heat system totally

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Gaius Marius posted:

If you got the PC version you can switch to the old system with some ini tweaks or mods or something. The game got pretty far in development before they decided to cut out the Heat system totally

Oh huh, I would not have guessed that. I'm close enough to the end that I'm not gonna bother this time, but I'll definitely look that up next time around.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Halo Wars 2: Marine squads randomly have male or female voices when you click on them, and you hear both men and women talk in the units' random incidental chatter. :)

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I've got to the Sabretooth Boss fight in Wolverine's Revenge. This is probably more X-Men general thoughts, but it's relevant to the game so whatever.

I always liked that wolverine and Sabretooth were basically coded as a cat and a dog. A smaller, intelligent, lithe creature with retractable claws, and a bigger hulking mess of muscle with non-retractable claws and a far simpler philosophy.
I guess the healing factor thing could count as a riff on 9-lives.
I also kind of like that at least so far, Sabretooth is kind of freeing wolverine from his monitoring equipment - while Logan tore out of the initial place on his own, Sabretooth slamming his head against a wall destroys the helmet, finally revealing Logan's face. I guess you can read it as Sabretooth being the one person at this stage in the story that sees Logan as another person rather than an experiment. One he wants to kill, but one he respects on a level that the weapon X program don't.
The government dehumanised them, and they are rehumanising each other via their rivalry.

Vic
Nov 26, 2009

malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX

BioEnchanted posted:

I've got to the Sabretooth Boss fight in Wolverine's Revenge. This is probably more X-Men general thoughts, but it's relevant to the game so whatever.

I always liked that wolverine and Sabretooth were basically coded as a cat and a dog. A smaller, intelligent, lithe creature with retractable claws, and a bigger hulking mess of muscle with non-retractable claws and a far simpler philosophy.
I guess the healing factor thing could count as a riff on 9-lives.
I also kind of like that at least so far, Sabretooth is kind of freeing wolverine from his monitoring equipment - while Logan tore out of the initial place on his own, Sabretooth slamming his head against a wall destroys the helmet, finally revealing Logan's face. I guess you can read it as Sabretooth being the one person at this stage in the story that sees Logan as another person rather than an experiment. One he wants to kill, but one he respects on a level that the weapon X program don't.
The government dehumanised them, and they are rehumanising each other via their rivalry.

It would be the other way around because a wolverine is a canid and a sabertooth tiger is a felid. And iirc they nicknamed him wolverine because he's short and angry. Also wolverines do have semi retractable claws. I think sabretooth is just physically bigger just so you can have wolverine be the underdog who kicks the big guy's rear end, as that's what wolverines are known for.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
I remember X2 being a real good game. Like way better than it should be.

Also Sabretooth always gets Wolverine a gift for his birthday.

It's always an rear end kicking.


Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
Help, I made the mistake of thinking about the physics of all that, and my brain hurts now

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Push El Burrito posted:

I remember X2 being a real good game. Like way better than it should be.

Also Sabretooth always gets Wolverine a gift for his birthday.

It's always an rear end kicking.




There's some real "Happy Birthday from Thanos" energy in that comic.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 10 hours!

Vic posted:

It would be the other way around because a wolverine is a canid and a sabertooth tiger is a felid. And iirc they nicknamed him wolverine because he's short and angry. Also wolverines do have semi retractable claws. I think sabretooth is just physically bigger just so you can have wolverine be the underdog who kicks the big guy's rear end, as that's what wolverines are known for.

It probably fits oddly better the other way around; despite his whole 'lone wolf' dealio, Wolverine tends to join a group and defend it to the last, while Sabertooth is a usually solitary hunter who ultimately does whatever the hell he feels like, and definitely has a very feline streak of sadism.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I'm onto Act 2 now, trying to find a cure for the Shiva Virus, and I like some of the set dressing, like there is a sign in Beast's lab that says "You don't have to be a mutant to work here, but it helps" :3:

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

Johnny Aztec posted:

Help, I made the mistake of thinking about the physics of all that, and my brain hurts now

It's the speed force.

BioEnchanted posted:

I'm onto Act 2 now, trying to find a cure for the Shiva Virus, and I like some of the set dressing, like there is a sign in Beast's lab that says "You don't have to be a mutant to work here, but it helps" :3:

Sure Beast is all cute until he tampers with the fundamental laws of man and god then everyone gets on his case.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
THat reminds me of my favourite line in the Avengers movie franchise - "What? it's time travel! Either it's all a joke, or none of it is!"

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Push El Burrito posted:

It's the speed force.

I started going on about "tensile strength", and how it sliced up a motorcycle at high speeds, and etc etc, but ...Okay, the wires are imbued with the "Speed Force".

I can accept that, actually.





I would actually like to see someone smart break down the physics on that scene. Would be a pretty cool read

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Vic
Nov 26, 2009

malae fidei cum XI_XXVI_MMIX

Johnny Aztec posted:

I would actually like to see someone smart break down the physics on that scene. Would be a pretty cool read

Easy. Rob Liefeld is a hack

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