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Yeah Nah?
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Yeah Nah 122 53.51%
Nah Yeah 64 28.07%
Nah Yee 18 7.89%
No Yes 9 3.95%
Yes No 15 6.58%
Total: 228 votes
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TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
Its an awkward joke

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realbez
Mar 23, 2005

Fun Shoe

Tommunist posted:

Its an awkward joke

You’re an awkward joke

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
Perth hits lockdown.

Thanks east coast.

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

You're welcome.

hooman posted:

Sports rorts? Doesn't look like anything to me.

It's cool that political disgrace means going to the naughty corner for a spell.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Eediot Jedi posted:

You're welcome.

It's cool that political disgrace means going to the naughty corner for a spell.

Corruption just gets you a little time out.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Any age can now go get AZ on request.

Organza Quiz
Nov 7, 2009


Senor Tron posted:

Any age can now go get AZ on request.

Lol now they can blame people for not going out and getting vaccinated despite two seconds ago telling Australia that no one under 60 should get AZ.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Senor Tron posted:

Any age can now go get AZ on request.

Just in time for this study to hit the news lol

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1409477942330150914

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...

realbez posted:

You’re an awkward joke

Can you not post like this it is intensely cruel.

Periphery
Jul 27, 2003
...

Eediot Jedi posted:

It's cool that political disgrace means going to the naughty corner for a spell.

And now they have Car Park Rorts to go along with it: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/auditor-general-report-major-issues-commuter-car-parking/100250426

quote:

A $660 million Commonwealth government spend on train station car parks leading up to the 2019 federal election was not based on need and focused on Liberal-held or marginal seats, a review by the auditor-general has found.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...

Organza Quiz posted:

Lol now they can blame people for not going out and getting vaccinated despite two seconds ago telling Australia that no one under 60 should get AZ.

And now I'm stuck, I'm meant to be eligible for pfizer, but they hosed with the bookings to let the 60 year olds book in (even though they had forever to do so with AZ). I could go to the GP for an AZ, but the official government advice is I shouldn't?

Do I wait, or do I go?

Aware
Nov 18, 2003
Just get AZ.

TammyHEH
Dec 11, 2013

Alfrything is only the ghost of a memory...
https://twitter.com/cokeefe9/status/1409680282739896344

The nation of cops does good for once

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

Whew! Good thing he just got a pay rise!

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

freebooter posted:

Just in time for this study to hit the news lol

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1409477942330150914

OTOH mRNA vaxxes don't seem to do much of anything for immunocompromised people like me

go_banana
Oct 13, 2010

Konomex posted:

And now I'm stuck, I'm meant to be eligible for pfizer, but they hosed with the bookings to let the 60 year olds book in (even though they had forever to do so with AZ). I could go to the GP for an AZ, but the official government advice is I shouldn't?

Do I wait, or do I go?

Get AZ and you'll most likely get an MRNA booster later in the year / next year.

Alternatively, if you are in NSW cheat the system like everyone else.

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

Queensland has 3 separate outbreaks and none are to do with NSW. lol

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

alf_pogs posted:

Adelaide squad represent

hope all the sydneygoons stay in their state

MysticalMachineGun
Apr 5, 2005

spaceblancmange posted:

Queensland has 3 separate outbreaks and none are to do with NSW. lol

Hotel quarantine related, though?

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

2 are but there is a new one that is a hospital leak.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Didn't realise we had so many Adelaide goons back in the thread nowadays. We should have another meetup at some point.

aejix
Sep 18, 2007

It's about finding that next group of core players we can win with in the next 6, 8, 10 years. Let's face it, it's hard for 20-, 21-, 22-year-olds to lead an NHL team. Look at the playoffs.

That quote is from fucking 2018. Fuck you Jim
Pillbug
If I was in Adelaide I would be taking out a loan and just eating at Shobosho 7 nights a week, that place is loving incredible (bring your wallet though, they don't miss with the bill)

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

what's the go with the moice plague? is that still happening

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Organza Quiz posted:

Lol now they can blame people for not going out and getting vaccinated despite two seconds ago telling Australia that no one under 60 should get AZ.

The messaging on vaccinations has been the dumbest own goal by the feds.


Konomex posted:

And now I'm stuck, I'm meant to be eligible for pfizer, but they hosed with the bookings to let the 60 year olds book in (even though they had forever to do so with AZ). I could go to the GP for an AZ, but the official government advice is I shouldn't?

Do I wait, or do I go?

AZ is a extremely good vaccine that is almost as good as the mRNA's (which are a genuinely gamechanger in vaccine tech) so yes, get vaccinated with it. If you want to get a mRNA booster later - the evidence is suggesting AZ first / mRNA second is likely to be the best vaccination strategy possible.


freebooter posted:

Just in time for this study to hit the news lol

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1409477942330150914

AZ is showing evidence of the same.

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

I can see people reporting him every single tine.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

I'm booked in for my AZ and my mum, who is AZ hesitant, now seems pretty pleased she'll be able to go get Pfizer... which I guess she will? Because the phases technically still exist, so if we're giving AZ out to the non-hesitant youngs, the Pfizer reserve go towards the more vulnerable categories?

Pretty funny that the boomers basically whinged long enough and loud enough that they got what they wanted, yet again.

Cpt Soban
Jul 23, 2011

Prepare for another rant on twitter, crying about "BIG GOVERNMENT" while flea treating the sheep in a dirty paddock.

Ol Sweepy
Nov 28, 2005

Safety First
I left the internet for a second and came back to this. (It's just the water drips going off).

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Ol Sweepy posted:

I left the internet for a second and came back to this. (It's just the water drips going off).


Yeah there doesn't seem to be anything to it, #libspill trends every second day (and you don't even need that many tweets to get something listed as trending nowadays)

Can't see any motivation for the Libs to spill anyway. For the next few months there is just going to be growing frustration at the federal government over quarantine and vaccinations continually popping up as issues while we watch many other countries like the US and UK that were much harder hit return to some semblance of normality. No-one would want to take that poisoned chalice, and until this is all over no other agenda is getting through either, like Morrisons stalled religious freedom to discriminate legislation.

Putrid Dog
Feb 13, 2012

"God, I wish I was dead!"
Anecdotally, and I do know that this is the extreme small minority - a family member got her AZ vaccine as she's under 60 back at the start of June.
Cut to 12 days later and she's in ER with persistent abdominal pain (about 4 out of 10)- drs were going to send her home as her bloods were fine until her blood pressure and platelets suddenly crashed and they found she was bleeding internally.

Emergency surgery and half her volume of blood transfused later, they discovered that her spleen had ruptured. She would have died if she wasn't at hospital when it happened.

While recovering in ICU, gov announces that the age is now for Pfizer is now below 60, not 50, which specialists and drs have apparently been pushing for.
5 days after surgery and they discover a giant blood clot in the vein coming from her liver and test results came back positive to the vaccine induced blood clotting disorder.
She spent 16 days in hospital and has just now been released, thankfully on the road to recovery.

I'm pro vax and am fully pfizer vaxxed myself, but that poo poo was extremely distressing and devastating to go through. It will take a year before she's back to even 90-95% functional and now she is effectively immune compromised as the spleen is important with handling bacterial infections and it's probably shortened her lifespan when she wasn't contraindicated to not get AZ in the first place.

My advice is that if you go ahead and get the AZ vaccine (as the government is pushing, but health officials are not), and experience any of the symptoms such as persistent abdominal pain, turn up to ER and stand your ground to get bloods and scans done to confidently rule it out.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

loving sydney

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-29/dubbo-zoo-turns-away-sydney-tourists/100253346

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do
I remember a good story about vaccine reluctance from a paediatrician I can't remember the name of, it was on an episode of TWIV. They had a newborn in for her shots, and the li'l dude started having a seizure. They managed to stabilise her but the fits never subsided and she died from them a couple months later

It would be a loving insane leap for that mother to ever trust a vaccine, and not feel deeply passionate about vaccine dangers for the rest of her life. Except it happened while the nurse was preparing the dose. Had it been a minute later you'd expect that lady to throw a Molotov through a pharmacy company window

The Peccadillo fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Jun 29, 2021

realbez
Mar 23, 2005

Fun Shoe
That is NOT a good story

bobvonunheil
Mar 18, 2007

Board games and tea

wheeeeee

(from here)

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.

GROWTH

AND

JOBS?

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

...

AZ is showing evidence of the same.

I'd be interested to read up on this if you had a link?

Tomberforce
May 30, 2006

MythLisp posted:

Anecdotally, and I do know that this is the extreme small minority - a family member got her AZ vaccine as she's under 60 back at the start of June.
Cut to 12 days later and she's in ER with persistent abdominal pain (about 4 out of 10)- drs were going to send her home as her bloods were fine until her blood pressure and platelets suddenly crashed and they found she was bleeding internally.

Emergency surgery and half her volume of blood transfused later, they discovered that her spleen had ruptured. She would have died if she wasn't at hospital when it happened.

While recovering in ICU, gov announces that the age is now for Pfizer is now below 60, not 50, which specialists and drs have apparently been pushing for.
5 days after surgery and they discover a giant blood clot in the vein coming from her liver and test results came back positive to the vaccine induced blood clotting disorder.
She spent 16 days in hospital and has just now been released, thankfully on the road to recovery.

I'm pro vax and am fully pfizer vaxxed myself, but that poo poo was extremely distressing and devastating to go through. It will take a year before she's back to even 90-95% functional and now she is effectively immune compromised as the spleen is important with handling bacterial infections and it's probably shortened her lifespan when she wasn't contraindicated to not get AZ in the first place.

My advice is that if you go ahead and get the AZ vaccine (as the government is pushing, but health officials are not), and experience any of the symptoms such as persistent abdominal pain, turn up to ER and stand your ground to get bloods and scans done to confidently rule it out.

Yeah my brother is a doctor in the UK and he advised me against the AZ vaccine just at the moment in a controlled covid environment like Australia at the moment - he'd just had a 30 year old female patient die from clotting. I was eligible for the mrna in the end and have been fully vaccinated but I was quite comfortably booked in for getting the AZ which most of my family over there had been given without incident.

Were both strong vaccine advocates but he was sufficient concerned to recommend holding off given the low covid context of Australia a couple of months ago.

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
Let's not forget that the CDC paused J&J covid vaccines due to clotting and that it also happens to a number of women who take things like the pill, but that's hardly ever reported on for whatever reason.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Lol a $5000 fine to the company that were in full knowledge that what they were doing was illegal and chose to do it anyway, what a loving joke

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Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
Personally I’m going to go with the medical advice that AZ shouldn’t be taken for my age group unless I have heightened vulnerability or exposure to COVID, instead of the panicked policy on the run from the prime minister of sydney :shrug:

In my view the change in availability is a completely transparent attempt to shed blame.

Whenever under 60s get complications from AZ they’ll point to Hunt’s statement and said that we maintained Pfizer was the right vaccine for them, but those people made their own choice to get vaccinated with AZ, I don’t hold a syringe mate.

When the vaccine rollout continues at a glacial pace they’ll say “we’ve opened up AZ to whoever wants it, the stocks are there, but we’re not about to force people to be vaccinated. We’ve done all we can to provide the fastest rollout possible for Australia”

Solemn Sloth fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Jun 29, 2021

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