I was talking on work slack about the Ever Given and idly wondered aloud how much of the cargo was perishable. I almost added "The Wire style" but stopped myself
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 12:56 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 15:11 |
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Guaranteed that a bunch of people died in shipping containers behind this blockage though. Either on the Ever Given itself or one of the other ships that had to wait or go around the Cape because of it.
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# ? Apr 9, 2021 13:36 |
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Gus is actually a good character. The way he treats Scott is the reason Scott feels stuck and decides to lie. Gus can't see past his own pretension. If he was willing to adapt, or at least recognize the hypocrisy of his supposed integrity he could've avoided pretty much everything. It's a much more nuanced story than it gets credit for.
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# ? Apr 13, 2021 06:25 |
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People always talk about the virtues of all these hidden angles to season 5 but it just never works for me. Not to discredit those that can find virtue but even when I look look these things the Newspaper story just isn't satisfying and doesn't resonate with me.
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# ? Apr 13, 2021 07:26 |
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To be honest the only way I can believe journalists in fiction nowadays is if they are portrayed as the least curious and most gullible sycophant motherfuckers alive.
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# ? Apr 13, 2021 08:20 |
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Season 5 if made this year would be about a journalist making a fake Twitter account and then reporting on what it says.
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# ? Apr 13, 2021 12:12 |
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algebra testes posted:People always talk about the virtues of all these hidden angles to season 5 but it just never works for me. Yeah, I mean, it's okay. But it felt off the same way the last season of so many HBO shows feel off. I think the shortened season was a lot of it, but folks earlier in the thread mentioned that it also felt like David Simon was too close to the subject, and I think that's right, too. So maybe he did tell a nuanced story about Gus failing journalism, that's a perfectly valid read, but for a general audience, it didn't resonate. I'm sure it did though with every journalist from the 70's - 90's who saw their institution hollowed out as expensive veterans were bought out and replaced with trust-fund kids working cheap. Anyway. Five is almost universally accepted as the worst season of the show, and I agree with that, but it also has some of the best scenes in the series. I wish I liked it more.
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# ? Apr 13, 2021 20:21 |
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So while it's not as much of a masterpiece as The Wire - and other than the Sopranos and Twin Peaks, nothing is so can't complain there - I've been watching and enjoying Homicide: Life on the Streets.Seeing it for the first time. I was wondering, do we have an old thread in the archives or whatever for it? I'd love to read Goon thoughts on it.
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# ? Apr 14, 2021 15:14 |
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:So while it's not as much of a masterpiece as The Wire - and other than the Sopranos and Twin Peaks, nothing is so can't complain there - I've been watching and enjoying Homicide: Life on the Streets.Seeing it for the first time. I was wondering, do we have an old thread in the archives or whatever for it? I'd love to read Goon thoughts on it. I don't know about a thread but I think it's valid discussion for this thread, seeing as it relates to The Wire. I went through it a few years back and enjoyed it more than I thought I would, considering it was a dialed down network show. It wasn't perfect but I thought it was enjoyable (the movie too) and you can definitely see the seeds of The Wire in there which was fun. Also the episode with Robin Williams is genuinely great, what a performance. And some of the more progressive elements with the characters was a pleasant surprise. I recently started reading the David Simon book Homicide too, which I think is far more like The Wire than Life on the Streets, even though some of the episodes of Homicide are directly lifted from the book. Good read if you dig The Wire.
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# ? Apr 14, 2021 15:26 |
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Yeah, both of Simon's books are fantastic and well worth reading.
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# ? Apr 15, 2021 00:49 |
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Goons, I just finished the 4th season for the first time and that whole thing was a hard watch. Anything with the kids was just such a bummer. Surely I'm not the only one that got depressed watching this season?
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 14:55 |
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Ending on Namond at the literal crossroads but having made it out, and Colvin getting ONE success at last really helped dilute a lot of the pain so many of the other characters went through. It's a surprisingly uplifting final shot, with the peaceful suburban street and the relative quiet after being so used to the city noise permeating every aspect of the season otherwise (or eerie silences following violence or signaling danger).
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# ? Apr 27, 2021 16:49 |
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Stare-Out posted:I recently started reading the David Simon book Homicide too, which I think is far more like The Wire than Life on the Streets, even though some of the episodes of Homicide are directly lifted from the book. Good read if you dig The Wire. Homicide was "just" an okay book for me, only because it read more like a textbook for police school. It had a lot of dryness to it. The Corner, on the other hand, was absolutely brilliant. You will see a few characters from The Wire within this book, and I feel it should be on peoples bucketlist. You will be transported to the streets and live the life of a junkie, a corner boy, a person clawing their way out and more. Simon refined his data and presents it in a more digestible way than he did in Homicide. HBO also made The Corner miniseries, which was the proto-Wire and is sorta worth watching as well. It uses some people from the Baltimore streets rather than actors, so it's a bit rough. HBO has never made it available for streaming and I had to get it from the depths of the internet in terrible low-quality presentation. I would read the book first. As for the show Homicide, is it streaming anywhere yet? I've been wanting to watch that but could never track it down. My only real complaint with the last season is McNulty acting completely out of character. It was just wrong, and the news reporter story weaving into it made that wrong. Marlo tho, that saved it. Philthy fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Apr 29, 2021 |
# ? Apr 29, 2021 23:15 |
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Philthy posted:Homicide was "just" an okay book for me, only because it read more like a textbook for police school. It had a lot of dryness to it. Yeah, McNulty acted completely out of character going along with Lester's crazy bullshit
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# ? Apr 30, 2021 00:24 |
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Strawman posted:Yeah, McNulty acted completely out of character going along with Lester's crazy bullshit Well, it was stupid for McNulty to start this idea, and then even dumber when Lester got in on it. It just wasn't who they are. Pain in the rear end, sure, but making up dumb psycho rear end biting serial killer? Meh.
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# ? May 3, 2021 01:26 |
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Casting news for Simon and company's upcoming series. John Berenthal, Jamie Hector (Marlo Stanfield), and Josh Charles. Haven't heard of that last guy, but Berenthal and Hector have chops. https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/we-own-this-city-hbo-jon-bernthal-jamie-hector-josh-charles-hbo-the-wire-1234976830/
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# ? May 20, 2021 00:12 |
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Oh it's that guy from Sports Night; that show that I've never watched an episode of and yet whenever I see one of the leads in anything I immediately think "oh it's that guy from Sports Night" despite anything else I might have seen him in
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# ? May 20, 2021 00:19 |
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"Dead Poets Society" Josh Charles? He's been in a ton of stuff but never gotten much recognition. Still, not bad casting either way.
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# ? May 20, 2021 00:19 |
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Berenthal and Hector is awesome news, hell yeah.
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# ? May 20, 2021 10:05 |
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deoju posted:Casting news for Simon and company's upcoming series. The Wire season 6
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# ? May 26, 2021 14:11 |
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Lol yeah by the look of it, Simon is updating his theme from 'the cycle goes on' to 'poo poo just gets worse.'
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# ? May 26, 2021 14:46 |
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Catching up on the last year’s posts. Showing my gal the show, finishing S2. Some notes: a dock worker had a South Park shirt that has Kenny decapitated and “they killed” or so visible on the shirt. Maybe incidental, maybe intentional. But a nice note. Also, just thinking about Spiros’ “My name is not my name” vs Marlo’s “My name is my name!” That disconnect from identity that allows Spiros to move around and evade the law. Not unlike an actual corporation that is multi-National and can pick up and leave whenever. I’m sure we covered some of this stuff but that was soooooo long ago. What a good loving show. Oh and Bunk’s “I’m just a humble motherfucker with a big rear end dick” sometime in the first season I think. Woody Harrelson’s character uses that line at one point in the first season of True Detective. Real police, true detectives. Again, lots of just little details or complements to those details. I love The Wire. I’ve watched it a dozen+ times probably. Easily at double digits though.
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# ? Jun 8, 2021 01:22 |
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Still waiting for a Chris and Wee Bey spin off.
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# ? Jun 8, 2021 11:30 |
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Kosmo Gallion posted:Still waiting for a Chris and Wee Bey spin off. I'd like a Bodie / Poot spin off like was discussed up thread
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# ? Jun 8, 2021 20:08 |
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Something that stuck with me... wow, from an Event Horizon review that's more than a decade old: If you can't explain your ideas to an average layman, then you can't really lecture students and (more importantly) you can't convince anyone to give you money for your research. Parenti is a huge ivory-tower-elitist stereotype, and he's kind of out of place in a show that generally tries to deconstruct these sort of cliches. Xander77 fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Jun 29, 2021 |
# ? Jun 29, 2021 17:06 |
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About halfway through my first watch of season 5 and watching Tommy Carcetti eat poo poo and hate his life makes up for him being an irritating prick throughout this series. Cross-posting from the couch chat thread and based upon the opinion of posters there, I've been skipping through all of the Newsroom scenes since episode 2.
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# ? Jun 29, 2021 23:50 |
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Eh, I wouldn't. They're the weakest part of the season certainly but they're still a big part of the show and the throughline of the season.
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# ? Jun 29, 2021 23:55 |
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christmas boots posted:Eh, I wouldn't. They're the weakest part of the season certainly but they're still a big part of the show and the throughline of the season. Same; they're the low point of the show but I can't recommend skipping them entirely, that'll leave big gaps in the plot. The lowest point of a great show is still pretty good really, just not up to the standards of the rest of it.
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 00:01 |
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Bosch, season 7 has a nice tie into The Wire The gang detective Det's Bosch and Edgar talk with refers to a crime boss as a female Stringer Bell. They even have her throwing a burner phone out of a car.
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 00:31 |
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CBJSprague24 posted:Cross-posting from the couch chat thread and based upon the opinion of posters there, I've been skipping through all of the Newsroom scenes since episode 2. LOL this is really silly, who would do this?
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 01:01 |
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Also the newsroom arc directly intersects with the bubbles arc
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 01:08 |
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Yeah, watch it all, "All the pieces matter" as they say, plus even though it is the weakest part of the weakest season, viewing that is part of the overall experience.
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 01:25 |
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Syrian Lannister posted:Bosch, season 7 has a nice tie into The Wire That was classic. He binge watches the wire.
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 04:27 |
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Human Tornada posted:LOL this is really silly, who would do this? It went kind of like this: CBJSprague24 posted:Does anything in season 5 of The Wire involving the newsroom amount to anything other than a reboot of All The President's Men? Escobarbarian posted:David Simon has grudges from his time as a reporter and that’s basically it Matt Zerella posted:All the interesting stuff in season 5 is outside of the cops/newsroom. You can skip it. I tend to disagree about skipping the cop stuff. To each their own otherwise; I feel like I could get the newsroom cliff notes from episode summaries.
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 04:48 |
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The newspaper stuff still has its good moments including a couple with Jimmy. Plus just watch them, it's only a portion of a shortened season and it's what the creators intended. If you're that pressed for time you probably shouldn't be watching five seasons of a 20 year old TV show in the first place.
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 05:37 |
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Watch however you like, but I think it's all worth watching.
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 05:46 |
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Syrian Lannister posted:Bosch, season 7 has a nice tie into The Wire This was such a loving dad joke. Which is absolutely their audience, but still a bit eye opening.
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 07:31 |
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Human Tornada posted:The newspaper stuff still has its good moments including a couple with Jimmy. Plus just watch them, it's only a portion of a shortened season and it's what the creators intended. If you're that pressed for time you probably shouldn't be watching five seasons of a 20 year old TV show in the first place. I just watched Jimmy in the bar with the two reporters feeding them his bullshit homeless murderer story, so that's getting a bit more interesting.
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# ? Jul 3, 2021 22:54 |
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I was not expecting the Omar story to end as it did and I was hoping there was going to be some sort of final showdown. I just got to that part on my first watch myself and had to back up to make sure it was him.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 00:54 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 15:11 |
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I’m on season 2 of my rewatch, but I can’t remember if they ever explained Stringers red car from season 1. He takes a taxi to it parked in a nice neighborhood and drives to college when McNulty follows him. What was going on there.
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