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silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
Can't wait to chew the air again

Fire plume time

https://twitter.com/RadarOmega/status/1409684654437789698?s=19


Respirator crew


Also uhhh good luck Carolinas. gently caress it's only June.

My head hurts.

silicone thrills has issued a correction as of 05:27 on Jun 30, 2021

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DesertIslandHermit
Oct 7, 2019

It's beautiful. And it's for the god of...of...arts and crafts. I think that's what he said.

I saw this before work and literally could not think at work. loving hell.

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008

Kazinsal posted:

the weather system that kicked off this heat dome is still lurking out of view in the middle of the pacific instead of dissipating which means it's probably going to kick up another one next month. considering the usual warmest time of year in the PNW is late july/early august, hooo boy get ready for 120 F

hahahaha gently caress

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.
dumb guy question

is the human body better at dealing with extreme heat or cold? let's assume they don't have a heater or AC due to a power outage but there is water

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Consummate Professional posted:

dumb guy question

is the human body better at dealing with extreme heat or cold? let's assume they don't have a heater or AC due to a power outage but there is water

if there's a lotta humidity, neither

but if it gets cold enough the humidity freezes outta the air

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Consummate Professional posted:

dumb guy question

is the human body better at dealing with extreme heat or cold? let's assume they don't have a heater or AC due to a power outage but there is water

One thing to kee in mind if it’s a power outage situation is it’s a lot easier to get a fire going than find a substitute for AC so that’s got to factor in

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008


Consummate Professional posted:

dumb guy question

is the human body better at dealing with extreme heat or cold? let's assume they don't have a heater or AC due to a power outage but there is water

wet bulb temp high enough is the worst because you can’t do anything to survive without electricity and air conditioning

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


Qanats and wind towers, I keep telling you

Source4Leko
Jul 25, 2007


Dinosaur Gum

Consummate Professional posted:

dumb guy question

is the human body better at dealing with extreme heat or cold? let's assume they don't have a heater or AC due to a power outage but there is water

I drink outside in 0 degree F weather. I do nothing outside in 100 degree F weather.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Consummate Professional posted:

dumb guy question

is the human body better at dealing with extreme heat or cold? let's assume they don't have a heater or AC due to a power outage but there is water

how extreme

if we're talking typical extreme weather, and there's shade, then heat

Shifty Nipples
Apr 8, 2007

silicone thrills posted:

gently caress it's only June.

My head hurts.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Consummate Professional posted:

dumb guy question

is the human body better at dealing with extreme heat or cold? let's assume they don't have a heater or AC due to a power outage but there is water

you can alway put more clothes on but there’s a limit to what you can take off

that said you can die of exposure in surprisingly mild conditions if what you have is inappropriate. still, you can probably more easily get a bivy and or sleeping bag rated to extremely low temperatures but you’re kinda hosed I’d it gets too hot without active cooling

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG



We are managing so far, with one ac in a room keeping it at 24 during peak heat. Of course our building is concrete and will radiate this for a while. Also fortunately I live just on the edge of this thing, loving BC looks like hell right now, shattering the all time high for the country 3 days in a row and also outpacing the highest temp for loving Las Vegas. Nutso

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Consummate Professional posted:

dumb guy question

is the human body better at dealing with extreme heat or cold? let's assume they don't have a heater or AC due to a power outage but there is water

In heat misting your body with water and let evaporative cooling keep you chill is legit.

Also drink that stuff

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators
https://twitter.com/DanielFiretruck/status/1410092486828072962
https://twitter.com/CalDisasters/status/1410082723826311168
https://twitter.com/BranomJaeden/status/1410095706375737350
https://twitter.com/RMGNews/status/1410073321178230787
https://twitter.com/weatherdak/status/1410095077909663747
https://twitter.com/KyleTWN/status/1410089092797243394

Notorious R.I.M. has issued a correction as of 06:26 on Jun 30, 2021

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

"Is it easier to survive extreme heat or cold" is kind of a silly question since you can watch David Attenborough narrate you through some 4k footage of the coldest conditions humans will ever encounter again whereas the hottest conditions humans are going to experience in the predictable future can only be inferred through fossil and geological evidence that amounts to "wow, sure weren't a lot of trilobytes left after this happened ha ha"

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.
I said it was a dumb question!

DearSirXNORMadam
Aug 1, 2009

hobbesmaster posted:

you can alway put more clothes on but there’s a limit to what you can take off

that said you can die of exposure in surprisingly mild conditions if what you have is inappropriate. still, you can probably more easily get a bivy and or sleeping bag rated to extremely low temperatures but you’re kinda hosed I’d it gets too hot without active cooling



For truly high & dry temps you're actually better off putting more clothes on. Many traditional cultures from desert environments wear pretty extensive clothing even at 110+F, for example bedouin dishdasha, etc. If the garment is nice and flowy, it stops the radiative heat and provides extra convective cooling by increasing air flow and evaporative surface area.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Consummate Professional posted:

I said it was a dumb question!

it's ok, i'm probably going to get proven wrong by absolute zero jet stream bubble that creates a sea-level vacuum somehow in a year and you'll be able to quote-own me and ill be unable to post back since my eyes will be freezing and exploding simultaneously

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

hobbesmaster posted:

you can alway put more clothes on but there’s a limit to what you can take off

that said you can die of exposure in surprisingly mild conditions if what you have is inappropriate. still, you can probably more easily get a bivy and or sleeping bag rated to extremely low temperatures but you’re kinda hosed I’d it gets too hot without active cooling

Yeah if your not prepared cold weather, in places people actually live, (sometimes going down to -45C and lower) I think would kill you a lot quicker than warm places where people actually live (sometimes getting up to 45C temperatures and above). Lots of different factors though. Lower temperatures with no humidity and literally no wind are going to sap your body temperature much, much slower then if your laying on top of a pile of snow in -45C with gale force wind. Same with heat. 45C in the shade with a lot of wind, no humidity and a lot of water most people will be completly fine. Been in that situation myself quite a few times and honestly I find it pretty pleasant. 45C, high humidity, no water, walking about in direct sunlight though, yeah most people would need medical attention quite quickly. Still I think most people would do so much better in a 45C desert in street clothes then a -45C blizzard.

NeonPunk
Dec 21, 2020

It's far easier to survive extreme cold than it is to survive extreme heat.

The entirety of Texas saw like about 115 people die from the cold that was more than a week event while BC is just now reporting 230 deaths (and they've haven't really gotten to look around for more) for couple of days of heat. Pretty conclusive which is worse

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Mirconium posted:

For truly high & dry temps you're actually better off putting more clothes on. Many traditional cultures from desert environments wear pretty extensive clothing even at 110+F, for example bedouin dishdasha, etc. If the garment is nice and flowy, it stops the radiative heat and provides extra convective cooling by increasing air flow and evaporative surface area.

Sure, that assumes very low humidity like in a desert of course. The Pacific Northwest heat wave is too humid for that stuff to work well.

-Zydeco-
Nov 12, 2007


Lacrosse posted:

I barely survived; it was 115°F for over 10 hours at my house, and the inside of the house was 100°F at 75% humidity. I had a tiny window a/c that's broken af but was able to keep my 'cool' room at 89°F through the worst of it. If it weren't for that janky-rear end window unit, me and my two cats would've surely croaked in that heat.

If you're getting output from your window unit, just not much, it may just need to be recharged with refrigerant. Even if there is a leak you'll get better performance for a while.

You can take the cover off and see if you have a place to add refrigerant. If you do it's a cheap fix you can do yourself. Plenty of vids on YouTube for how to do it.

E: if anyone out west needs help trying to get some ac systems working or working better, send me a PM. I'm in Iowa so I can't help directly, but I have a maintenance background and know enough to be able to trouble shoot and repair most issues that an ac unit could have.

-Zydeco- has issued a correction as of 16:25 on Jun 30, 2021

-Zydeco-
Nov 12, 2007


If anyone is looking to help out or need to know where heat shelters are here are some I found.

Organizations that need donations and resources. A lot of these are trying to help the homeless.

Seattle heat shelters

Portland heat shelters

Leroy Diplowski
Aug 25, 2005

The Candyman Can :science:

Visit My Candy Shop

And SA Mart Thread

NeonPunk posted:

It's far easier to survive extreme cold than it is to survive extreme heat.

This.

When I was getting my wilderness first aid training (which everyone itt should do) we learned that cold takes many hours to kill but heat can do it in minutes.

Lacrosse
Jun 16, 2010

>:V


-Zydeco- posted:

If you're getting output from your window unit, just not much, it may just need to be recharged with refrigerant. Even if there is a leak you'll get better performance for a while.

You can take the cover off and see if you have a place to add refrigerant. If you do it's a cheap fix you can do yourself. Plenty of vids on YouTube for how to do it.

E: if anyone out west needs help trying to get some ac systems working or working better, send me a PM. I'm in Iowa so I can't help directly, but I have a maintenance background and know enough to be able to trouble shoot and repair most issues that an ac unit could have.

Thanks a ton. Got a buddy coming over in a few days to help me troubleshoot it, once we get the panel off I'll see if there's a refill spot. The other issue is it leaks water down the cord and not out the back but my friend thinks we can fix it.

Hooplah
Jul 15, 2006


fun fact, a dew point of around body temp will kill you via drowning as water condenses out of the air onto your alveoli instead of the other way around. i can't imagine the body can survive that for very long

at very low humidity and enough fluids to drink you can survive in pretty extraordinary heat. acclimated people hang out in 200F saunas for half an hour at a time. tbf if you're bundled up you can survive just fine at pretty incredibly low temps too

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008

Lacrosse posted:

Thanks a ton. Got a buddy coming over in a few days to help me troubleshoot it, once we get the panel off I'll see if there's a refill spot. The other issue is it leaks water down the cord and not out the back but my friend thinks we can fix it.

pls dont die in the heat. if theres somethin i can do to help lmk

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"
Anyone can reach out to me for anything as well

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Perry Mason Jar posted:

I'm going around extremely crack-pinged asking people "You up on this PNW heatwave?" and yeah mostly no one has heard of it over here in NYC metro, lmao

new yorkers not knowing the rest of the country exists is usually a point of pride for them though

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Shear Modulus posted:

new yorkers not knowing the rest of the country exists is usually a point of pride for them though

see: MadJackal in the COVID thread

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Perry Mason Jar posted:

I'm going around extremely crack-pinged asking people "You up on this PNW heatwave?" and yeah mostly no one has heard of it over here in NYC metro, lmao

it's been making the local news in new orleans

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008
the "planned rolling blackouts" news has shown up in at least texas

DoombatINC
Apr 20, 2003

Here's the thing, I'm a feminist.





It's sixty six degrees outside now, it was over ninety two days ago at this time of day

Great planet, very consistent

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
https://twitter.com/RARohde/status/1410157638109872134

Lacrosse
Jun 16, 2010

>:V


Korean Boomhauer posted:

pls dont die in the heat. if theres somethin i can do to help lmk

If it gets real bad again I'll take my cats to the cooling shelter in Enumclaw then go stay with friends or family. I had a few offers but I'm a stubborn bitch who refuses all help most of the time.

Although, if I ever see 115° on the forecast again, I'm renting a room and loving off to somewhere close to the ocean.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

hey you guys wanted the nws to communicate more gooder, now's your chance

https://twitter.com/NWSSeattle/status/1410345264955543554?s=20

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Lacrosse posted:

If it gets real bad again I'll take my cats to the cooling shelter in Enumclaw then go stay with friends or family. I had a few offers but I'm a stubborn bitch who refuses all help most of the time.

Although, if I ever see 115° on the forecast again, I'm renting a room and loving off to somewhere close to the ocean.

Every room is going to be filled with amazon and MS software engineers paying $500/night minimum

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
It's a weird couple of weather weeks, apart from the heatwave:

Tornados in Belgium:
https://twitter.com/CaptainGhazi/status/1408028535973949447
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1406918566754983944
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKlvpMNOVUg

Tornado in Czechia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdixGb5XbOI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVApWBwNR-U

Flashfloods in Russia, the Netherlands and Germany
https://twitter.com/ASLuhn/status/1409480628819664901

https://twitter.com/StormchaserNL/status/1409921035768586250

https://twitter.com/BlxckMosquito/status/1409923450257477635
https://twitter.com/LucaSzwirblies/status/1409576832442290178

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shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

and they're sure that's mm, not cm?

Cause I've gotten 50cm of rain in a day and lemme tell you it sucks fuckin rear end

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