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They can't be radioactive themselves, that would kill them kinda quick like. They must be carrying around contaminated dust at most. And boars and domesticated pigs hybradize constantly and everywhere all the time (except for the Americas because there's no native wild boar populations in the new world)
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 22:09 |
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Nah. They’re radioactive. It’s bioaccumulation and it’s also seen in parts of Europe after the Chernobyl incident.
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 22:11 |
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Their flesh is radio activated? Or more mundane low bio acumulation of contaminants? I'm trying not to be wrong on the Internet here so it's important.
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 22:24 |
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So how long until they turn into a dark souls boss
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 22:44 |
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Don Gato posted:So how long until they turn into a dark souls boss I think this is more of a Princess Mononoke situation
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 22:46 |
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Their flesh is radio activated? Or more mundane low bio acumulation of contaminants? I'm trying not to be wrong on the Internet here so it's important. It’s not so much that the boars have been directly subjected to radiation from the environment, but that what they have consumed was radioactive. It’s comparable to heavy metal poisoning: the higher a species is in the food chain, the more metal it accumulates. There are several causes for this accumulation, but one that is easy to grasp is that species higher on the food chain live longer and reproduce slower
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 22:51 |
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Cæsium-137 is the major contaminant. It has a half-life of thirty years. Once ingested, it mimics potassium and is spread all around the body. P.S.: Your boar hybridization model fails to account for Americans deliberately importing wild boar for sport and predictably letting them loose. George Gordon Moore is responsible for California’s problem. There were separate introductions in Texas and elsewhere.
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 22:52 |
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Aha, so they are just contaminated like expected and not actually radioactive, good. I will try to look at the hybridization situation in the US though, pig/boar genetics is genuinely cool
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 23:32 |
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For comparison's sake, bananas give off something around 115Bq/kg of radiation. According to the abstract of this paper, there is a general radiocesium limit of 100Bq/kg in place for foods. These pigs range from 90 to 1000, with a median of 450. Also, if I'm reading this right, there's an estimate that if you eat some it will increase the radiation you receive on an ongoing basis by about 1-3% of normal background radiation. ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Aha, so they are just contaminated like expected and not actually radioactive, good. I will try to look at the hybridization situation in the US though, pig/boar genetics is genuinely cool What's your definition of "actually radioactive"? The meat gives off beta particles.
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 23:32 |
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Is a boar pig hybrid supposed to be more scary than just a wild boar itself
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 23:32 |
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It’s only a radioactive pig if its flesh has been neutron-activated. Otherwise, it’s just sparkling pork.
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 23:43 |
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Dylan16807 posted:What's your definition of "actually radioactive"? The meat gives off beta particles. Something getting activated by ionizing radiation as opposed to contaminated by some other radiactive materia being on/inside the thing. It's starting to feel like my lame joke post wasn't very good E. Platystemon posted:It’s only a radioactive pig if its flesh has been neutron-activated.
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 23:50 |
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Dylan16807 posted:What's your definition of "actually radioactive"? The meat gives off beta particles. Not this boar. I give off sigma particles.
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 00:06 |
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With all that extra energy, does it walk up and cook its own bacon?
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 00:21 |
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Something getting activated by ionizing radiation as opposed to contaminated by some other radiactive materia being on/inside the thing. It's starting to feel like my lame joke post wasn't very good I mean, the cesium isn't just inside it, it's integrated into the pig molecules. You rate that differently from a neutron hitting an atom that was already in the pig and making it unstable? If I make a pig radioactive via neutrons, and then eat some of the pig, am I radioactive or am I just perma-contaminated?
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 00:50 |
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Dylan16807 posted:Well now you have me interested. What, you don't??
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 00:53 |
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Inceltown posted:Not this boar. I give off sigma particles.
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 01:15 |
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Something getting activated by ionizing radiation as opposed to contaminated by some other radiactive materia being on/inside the thing. It's starting to feel like my lame joke post wasn't very good Something is radioactive if it contains unstable nuclear isotopes that spontaneously disintegrate and emit radiation. Neutron activation is a thing that can cause non-radioactive things to become radioactive if exposed to neutron radiation, but is not intrinsic to the definition of radioactivity. The etymology of "radioactive" has nothing to do with "activation" but is based on active/activity, as in it is actively emitting energetic particles. Or that you detected activity from it in the form of the emission of energetic particles whose origin was the spontaneous decay of unstable nuclei. While I'm at it, as a nuclear engineer and health physicist, it is a pet peeve of mine when people use "radiation" interchangeably with "radioisotope." No, cesium-137 is not radiation, it is radioactive and thus emits radiation edit: no one made that mistake here as far as I saw but I just wanted an audience for a rant BattleMaster has a new favorite as of 01:18 on Jul 1, 2021 |
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Everyone knows that it's not radioactive if it isn't glowing, have multiple eyes, and/or tentacles.
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 01:36 |
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Oh poo poo! I have multiple eyes!
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 01:50 |
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GrossMurpel posted:Is a boar pig hybrid supposed to be more scary than just a wild boar itself I'm so mad at that articles lack of Latin names. Are they saying domestic Sus scrofa and wild Sus scrofa are breeding or is there another species in that area they are calling a boar that they are breeding with? Because pigs breeding with pigs is hardly news worthy. Platystemon posted:P.S.: Your boar hybridization model fails to account for Americans deliberately importing wild boar for sport and predictably letting them loose. George Gordon Moore is responsible for California’s problem. There were separate introductions in Texas and elsewhere. Pigs are pigs. The Texas and Southern states introductions are traced back to early settlers (Spanish in TX) bringing pigs with them. They're not some special species that's different from other domestic pigs. Atticus_1354 has a new favorite as of 03:33 on Jul 1, 2021 |
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I’m no porcine geneticist, but I understand that wild (or “wild”) Eurasian hogs were imported in the twentieth century. These escaped and bred with feral hogs, creating the hybrids that ThisIsJohnWayne didn’t know about.quote:Feral hogs (Sus scrofa) are an old world species belonging to the family Suidae, and in Texas include European wild hogs, feral hogs, and European-feral crossbreeds. Feral hogs are domestic hogs that either escaped or were released for hunting purposes. https://tpwd.texas.gov/publications/pwdpubs/media/pwd_bk_w7000_0195.pdf
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 03:51 |
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Platystemon posted:I’m no porcine geneticist, but I understand that wild (or “wild”) Eurasian hogs were imported in the twentieth century. These escaped and bred with feral hogs, creating the hybrids that ThisIsJohnWayne didn’t know about. That's my point. They're all Sus scrofa. That's like saying domestic dogs have escaped and cross breed with feral dogs. They're all the same.
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 03:58 |
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Domestic dogs are arguably the same species as grey wolves, and they are demonstrably not “all the same”. I don’t know that it’s proper to use the word “hybrid”, but you know what they mean.
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Platystemon posted:Domestic dogs are arguably the same species as grey wolves, and they are demonstrably not “all the same”. But they're not. They just share a common ancestor and have distinct genetic differences.
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 04:12 |
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Inceltown posted:Not this boar. I give off smegma particles.
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 04:16 |
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Question. What do I do if 30-50 of them get in my yard?
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 04:17 |
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Look at this pigs huge radioactive balls
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 04:40 |
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Well my wikipedia says domesticated pigs are a subspecies called Sus scrofa domesticus
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 10:36 |
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sigh “What’s ‘scrofa’?”
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 10:47 |
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Scrofa deez nuts!!!
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 10:59 |
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sus
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 13:52 |
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https://twitter.com/AP_Oddities/status/1410587757521539072
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Atticus_1354 posted:I'm so mad at that articles lack of Latin names. Are they saying domestic Sus scrofa and wild Sus scrofa are breeding or is there another species in that area they are calling a boar that they are breeding with? Because pigs breeding with pigs is hardly news worthy. I was going to mention javelinas but then I found out they are not related to the above species. The more you knowTM
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 16:11 |
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https://twitter.com/acurrentaffair9/status/1410867473901973510?s=21
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NBC's $18 Million 'Ultimate Slip 'N Slide' at a Standstill After Diarrhea Outbreak (Exclusive)
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 18:14 |
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to the power of
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Dylan16807 posted:For comparison's sake, bananas give off something around 115Bq/kg of radiation. Don't worry, we can sell the meat to the people in WV, because they mostly are fat and drink lots of beer, so industrial pollution standards shouldn't apply to Vest Virginians. https://www.wvgazettemail.com/opini...4fdc6baea7.html
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https://twitter.com/CDCgov/status/1410677082435117059
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Don’t worry, CDC. The kids are three feet apart.
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