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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
They were upset that VHS won last time, so they made sure that they won with blu ray. And now no one wants physical media anymore. They only reason to get a Blu ray these days is if the compression artifacts on a scene with a night sky annoys you.

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Cojawfee posted:

no one wants physical media anymore

This just isn't true. If you'd said "no rich nerd wants physical media anymore" you would have been right.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

3D Megadoodoo posted:

This just isn't true. If you'd said "no rich nerd wants physical media anymore" you would have been right.

Rich nerds are the only people buying physical media. Everyone else is just streaming stuff. (For the purposes of this post, the small amount of people that actively post in this thread count as rich nerds)

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Yeah, I'd love to see the demographic breakdowns for media purchasing these days because I just can't see college kids having ever growing disc collections like we did back in the 00s.

pretty soft girl
Oct 1, 2004

my dead grandfather fights better than you

GutBomb posted:

Rich nerds are the only people buying physical media. Everyone else is just streaming stuff. (For the purposes of this post, the small amount of people that actively post in this thread count as rich nerds)

Yep, I am a rich nerd and my frustration with certain movies disappearing off of streaming, a bunch of Hong Kong classics never being made available for streaming, wanting specific cuts of certain movies, and wanting access to commentary tracks has had me buying a lot of physical discs in the last month or two

Most normal people have access to literally everything they want to watch included in the cost of a subscription or like a 3 dollar rental fee. There's no good reason for them to shell out anywhere from 15 to 50 bucks just for a movie if they're not seeking out weird nerd poo poo.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

EL BROMANCE posted:

Yeah, I'd love to see the demographic breakdowns for media purchasing these days because I just can't see college kids having ever growing disc collections like we did back in the 00s.
Despite hating physical media myself these days I decided to continue moving my CD collection with me, rather than throwing it in a dumpster as most of my friends have done previously. I remain convinced that like every other stupid useless retro thing its value will one day rise enough that the hours I have to spend packing it up and unpacking it somewhere new every couple of years will seem worth it! ... ...... :cry: I AM A drat FOOL

pretty soft girl posted:

Yep, I am a rich nerd and my frustration with certain movies disappearing off of streaming, a bunch of Hong Kong classics never being made available for streaming, wanting specific cuts of certain movies, and wanting access to commentary tracks has had me buying a lot of physical discs in the last month or two

Most normal people have access to literally everything they want to watch included in the cost of a subscription or like a 3 dollar rental fee. There's no good reason for them to shell out anywhere from 15 to 50 bucks just for a movie if they're not seeking out weird nerd poo poo.
I am not willing to purchase physical media to fix this problem, but yes, I have certainly become more aware of it recently. When John Singleton died another Goon and I were like "hey, we should watch his whole back catalogue!" and it was like ... wow, it feels like would need to subscribe to five different streaming services and pick up a couple of laserdiscs to actually make that happen. But if you just want to watch "any random decent fun/scary/funny/sexy movie" then yeah, pick one of the 50,000 available free to you right now.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
I do my best to not buy physical media these days. I have enough stuff from the past 50 years taking up space.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


I’m still big on physical media. I don’t know how many bold so own but it was more than a couple hundred ten years ago and I buy books semi-compulsively.

By the time I could really afford to collect movies Blu-ray was already well established so At most I’ve bought movies twice.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

I'd enjoy physical media a lot more if you could get cheap jukebox versions of game consoles and bluray players so you wouldn't have to get up off the couch to change the disc all the time
why can't i get a playstation that looks like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7LEmqJpXQ

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


I remember these being sold for a while. So far as I know they never made one that could read Blu-ray.

https://youtu.be/Awf2y7woDCk

I thought they made at least a model that had an actual optical drive integrated into it.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I remember reading an article probably 20 years ago that warned that the plastics on cds would eventually fog and make them unreadable, and that they maybe had a 20 year life. that's proven to be untrue, but I do wonder what the limit is on that stuff. "owning" your own physical media does little good if it's unreadable.

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

Disk rot is a very real thing, though that's not what causes it. If you want long term storage of anything digital you need to keep replicating it, though using something like M-disk will prolong the lifespan of any given copy, provided you can find working and supported hardware at whatever point.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



I read about some German archive where they kept one of every audio cd that came out (within certain parameters probably) and they found that on some of the earliest ones (first half of the eighties) bad ink was used to print the text on top which rotted through to the data layer.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

3D Megadoodoo posted:

I don't want to watch tech videos featuring people who want to die. I want to watch tech videos featuring people who want to kill and do kill. *searches for UK electric plugs videos*

e: Ahhhh this is the good stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxotFM0T0ew

I ended up watching that entire video, and came away mildly impressed at the quality of 80's Czechoslovak circuit breakers. He is very precise and informative, wastes no time, yet at the same time there is a distinct "old, over-qualified high school teacher who would much rather have an R&D job" vibe. A solid find.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

Fantastic Foreskin posted:

Disk rot is a very real thing, though that's not what causes it. If you want long term storage of anything digital you need to keep replicating it, though using something like M-disk will prolong the lifespan of any given copy, provided you can find working and supported hardware at whatever point.

Here's my only gold CD from 2004. I hate to think what condition it is in now having sat in a box in my shed for years.

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Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019


When I got my first CD burner I ended up with a cake box of lovely CD-Rs that would become unreadable in a matter of days if you labeled them with a Sharpie.

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!


Gromit posted:

Here's my only gold CD from 2004. I hate to think what condition it is in now having sat in a box in my shed for years.



I have a couple of Sega Saturn games that developed pinholes like that.

Not nearly as bad, though. They're still readable.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

I remember reading an article probably 20 years ago that warned that the plastics on cds would eventually fog and make them unreadable, and that they maybe had a 20 year life. that's proven to be untrue, but I do wonder what the limit is on that stuff. "owning" your own physical media does little good if it's unreadable.

I still have two of the first three CDs I bought in 1986 and both play perfectly.

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

Gromit posted:

Here's my only gold CD from 2004. I hate to think what condition it is in now having sat in a box in my shed for years.



Who woulda thunk the forums would outlive gold

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

Dicty Bojangles posted:

Who woulda thunk the forums would outlive gold

Bitcoin guys.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Dip Viscous posted:

When I got my first CD burner I ended up with a cake box of lovely CD-Rs that would become unreadable in a matter of days if you labeled them with a Sharpie.

Yeah I wish we knew that garbage tier CDRs were cheap for a reason back then. I do not miss burning media at all.

A Pack of Kobolds
Mar 23, 2007



I do not get the impression that many VHS weirdos are necessarily rich. If I'm wrong, I've got some tapes to sell them at a very competitive price.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


There was this thing I listened to on the radio several years back, either ‘15 or ‘16, where they had a BetaMax enthusiast on to talk about the end of Beta production. It went off the rails abbot because he started yelling about how Sony lied to community about how long tapes would be manufactured for.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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A Pack of Kobolds posted:

I do not get the impression that many VHS weirdos are necessarily rich. If I'm wrong, I've got some tapes to sell them at a very competitive price.

Rare horror stuff is usually their bag, and yes they do pay a fair amount of money for it. Not seen any mind blowing amounts recently, but more than I would pay for a piece of media I’d have no intention of watching in 2021.

A Pack of Kobolds
Mar 23, 2007



EL BROMANCE posted:

Rare horror stuff is usually their bag, and yes they do pay a fair amount of money for it. Not seen any mind blowing amounts recently, but more than I would pay for a piece of media I’d have no intention of watching in 2021.

I know enough to grab anything from a junk pile that says Wizard Video, which has happened never.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


In CineD one time somebody posted a trailer for a Z-grade horror movie called Snuffet, so a Muppet snuff film. The trailer alone convinced me that the guy who made it should probably be on a watch list.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Still chuckling at "the ate poo poo guy" :lol:

e: wait that was another thread - how many of these are there??

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I have 49, yes forty-nine MORE Laserdiscs on the way. Literally waiting for the seller to recover from a nasty slipped disc (joke not implied) in his spine.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV8NHSMH2aY
the sound this thing makes when it's changing numbers is rad, I would love a clock like this.

DrChu
May 14, 2002

Dr. Quarex posted:

I just noticed his wife is in the garage already and just casually saunters over to him. "Welp, looks like David made another long fall attempt"

She goes for the package first instead of him, which is even better.

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

Re: streamchat:

My storage drive died horribly last year, and I didn't have a backup. After a few weeks of screaming and wailing and gnashing of teeth, I had a Zen moment. There was literally not one single thing on that drive that was irreplaceable - maybe at some difficulty and excessive time, but it could be replaced.

Photos? Everything I needed to keep was on someone's facebook. Resume was recreated in a day. Music took me three weeks to torrent all over again, and this time without all the audio quirks I accidentally encoded back when I ripped it fifteen years ago. Mountain of obsolete software? I mourn the passing of Macromedia Freehand, but I was never going to install it again. Same with all the game installers, most of which I could just get from GOG instead of wrangling compatibility patches myself - if I ever played them again. Most of my fiction books were on my phone, and the nonfiction is a quick trip to libgen away. A veritable mountain of cruft I held onto for no reason - chat logs from the early '00s, half-finished fanfiction, incomplete websites built with the heights of 1997's technology, memes so old I saved them to disk long before they were called memes, drivers for hardware I tossed ages ago, service packs for Windows 2000 & XP - good riddance. Porn? The internet is made of porn. And all the movies and TV shows, the bulk of the drive, is streamable, both legally and otherwise.

I have a 4tb USB3 backup drive now. I have filled maybe 500gb of it. I don't even have a torrent client installed. Losing my digital hoard was a good thing.

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super nailgun
Jan 1, 2014


Humphreys posted:

I have 49, yes forty-nine MORE Laserdiscs on the way. Literally waiting for the seller to recover from a nasty slipped disc (joke not implied) in his spine.

That definitely is the kind of injury I could see being related to Laserdisc collecting though... A stack of those suckers gets heavy fast.

super nailgun
Jan 1, 2014


I got four Pivot FPD driver cards recently at the Goodwill outlet. All four look unused, only one even had that bag for the card opened. Pretty dope find since I snagged one of the Pivot monitors a year or two back but hadn't yet managed to find a card for reasonable money. Excited to get it all set up at some point, I always thought the FPDs were cool.

super nailgun has a new favorite as of 21:40 on Sep 28, 2021

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

super nailgun posted:

I got these recently at the Goodwill outlet. All four look unused, only one even had that bag for the card opened. Pretty dope find since I snagged one of the Pivot monitors a year or two back but hadn't yet managed to find a card for reasonable money. Excited to get it all set up at some point, I always thought the FPDs were cool.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdPAYACS9Ls

this thing is really neat.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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I visited my hometown this past week, and my brother's friend from high school (they were both into everything labeled Alternative and are huge music nerds) has a house full of restored pinball machines, vinyl 45s, old game consoles, a complete collection of Battle Beasts, a pennyfarthing bicycle, and a wife who apparently loves all those things.

I was able to point out the "AAD" or "DAD" or "DDD" etc insignias on his old CDs (indicating whether the disc was recorded/mastered/pressed [I think] in digital or analog) that apparently he'd never noticed before and he was entranced to discover something new.


e: he also has a mint in-wrapper copy of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump:_The_Game in his office (he's a tax accountant) to lol at, which is just "Monopoly with more zeroes" as he put it; also it's boxed in the wrapper upside down so you have to flip it over to read the back

Data Graham has a new favorite as of 16:56 on Jul 5, 2021

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

Data Graham posted:

I was able to point out the "AAD" or "DAD" or "DDD" etc insignias on his old CDs (indicating whether the disc was recorded/mastered/pressed [I think] in digital or analog) that apparently he'd never noticed before and he was entranced to discover something new.

First letter is recording method, second is method of transfer/master, third is nature of end medium.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Dicty Bojangles posted:

First letter is recording method, second is method of transfer/master, third is nature of end medium.

Yeah, I have a Phillips CD of Beethoven's 9th that was part of their early DDD push. It does sound great, but I'm not sure how much of that is due to the 100% digital nature of the process.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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My brother did recall that getting classical music in DDD was hen's teeth.

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

But the WARMTH of analogue, you just don’t understand

(I joke but AAA will always have hardcore following somewhere)

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Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

Anyone who claims they can tell the difference is lying, and probably owns $4000 speaker cables with little bags of magic pebbles taped to them.

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