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BIG DRYWALL MAN posted:For those of you that do your primer / basecoat with lowes or home depot spray, whats the best brand you’ve used so far? I’ve heard a lot about Krylon. Krylon is what I used before I got an airbrush, it worked without issue year round for me even in sub freezing temps.
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BIG DRYWALL MAN posted:For those of you that do your primer / basecoat with lowes or home depot spray, whats the best brand you’ve used so far? I’ve heard a lot about Krylon. Rustoleum works pretty good.
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Jul 1, 2021 02:55
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Fresh off the excitement of how good Spanish Manlove's dreadnoughts look, I put in some time on my Deathwing Dreadnought tonight. Mostly done with it, and I'm mostly happy with it. Just need to put together a decent base.
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Jul 1, 2021 04:27
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Look at that big robot boy taking his nephews out for a walk
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Jul 1, 2021 12:45
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Father taking sons for walk, 41,000 (colorized).
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Jul 1, 2021 13:17
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Quick question: Lately I've been really into basecoating with a stark zenithal via rattlecan, and then painting primarily with contrast/transparent paints to preserve the zenithal volume, see below (no highlight pass in this pic yet): Am I correct in assuming an airbrush would remedy the sort of gritty/speckly shadowed look? I imagine a finer stream of black and white inks would be super smooth transitions. The current method is honestly fine for grungy models like the Death Guard, but for, say, larger amounts of regular human flesh the rattlecan speckles end up looking not the best. Is this a dumb reason to finally get an airbrush?
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Jul 1, 2021 22:52
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You are correct in that if properly done an airbrush won't have that speckling, you can spray a much finer and more controlled zenithal. If you want a smooth transition over a larger area like that it may not be as quick though, you'll usually want to thin down further and build up layers. But that really depends how smooth you care to do, you have almost infinite level of control over the results. Even a basic zenithal will be better though. Not that this is the only reason to get an airbrush, there's about infinite of those, but if it's the one that convinces you then great!
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Jul 1, 2021 23:05
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Crosspost: I broke him a few times and couldn't find a base, so I made it from scratch. Going to get started on coloring him now.
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Jul 1, 2021 23:58
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If you want to airbrush really smooth gradients for zenethil highlights, use white ink instead of paint.
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Jul 2, 2021 01:01
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Do you really need an airbrush vent if you airbrush inside? All the ones online seem to be bigger than half my desk. was looking for one that was maybe 12"x12"
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Jul 2, 2021 01:37
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Do you really need an airbrush vent if you airbrush inside? All the ones online seem to be bigger than half my desk. was looking for one that was maybe 12"x12" Naw, just wear a mask and clean often (probably with a mask, I do it to be safe) as you'll get falling particulate build up nearby. I've been doing it for years, but if you get sloppy with cleaning it gets nasty.
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Jul 2, 2021 02:27
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The Demilich posted:Crosspost: Aaaaaaaand done. Forgive the lovely phone pics. Base is polymer clay, static grass, fake spongy shrub stuff, cork, a rock, some sprue, liquitex texture paste, and small rocks. Paintjob was liquitex acrylic inks.   I love stynylrez but god drat priming was a pain in the rear end with it being so hot today.
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Jul 2, 2021 04:35
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Do you really need an airbrush vent if you airbrush inside? All the ones online seem to be bigger than half my desk. was looking for one that was maybe 12"x12" Not really, but it helps keep clean, especially if the room is small/badly ventilated. At the very least, it's recommended to set up an airbrushing booth (basically a big box) to try and contain most of the paint dust, which you could replace or wipe clean. And, of course, wear a mask.
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Jul 2, 2021 06:40
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I'm gonna just scream into the void for a sec. I got my first airbrush months ago. It was really good except for priming, priming loving sucked. Just constant clogs, even thinned, unless it's so thin it took a million coats with no real coverage. loving awful. It'd take 30 minutes to prime one or two dudes between cleaning and testing the mix, then a more thorough cleaning afterwards, and it'd rub off easily. I was new to airbrushing so I assumed it was my mistake compounding, I'd get sick of it and put the airbrush down for another few months. Turns out my primer was bad the whole time. I tried another brand and it was a breeze to use and to clean up after, just waiting to see how it cures. So much wasted time but at least I can disassemble and clean my airbrush in the dark. 
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Jul 2, 2021 08:18
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Apologies if this was brought up recently, but has anyone had bad luck with paint agitators? I think I'm getting tennis elbow from shaking my paints, and some of the older ones have pigment that's not mixing as well as I want it to. It's time to invest in one of those fancy vibrating ones, but I don't want to buy a lemon.
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Jul 2, 2021 11:20
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Guzwar posted:Apologies if this was brought up recently, but has anyone had bad luck with paint agitators? I think I'm getting tennis elbow from shaking my paints, and some of the older ones have pigment that's not mixing as well as I want it to. It's time to invest in one of those fancy vibrating ones, but I don't want to buy a lemon. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...-c1161fd32666-0 I got this one (I got mine off Taobao not Aliexpress though). It's great! It can be a little uncomfortable after 30 seconds of getting your hand shaken along with the paint but it's harmless and the discomfort goes away fast.
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Jul 2, 2021 12:22
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Eediot Jedi posted:I'm gonna just scream into the void for a sec. I had the exact same problem with a bottle of matte varnish.
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Jul 2, 2021 14:27
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Eediot Jedi posted:I'm gonna just scream into the void for a sec. I had the same problem with Stynlrez primer. Once I switched to Vallejo Mecha Primer I never had that problem. Cleaning primer is still a pain in the rear end but at least I don't have to disassemble the airbrush every time I prime a model.
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Jul 2, 2021 14:52
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Can you varnish through an airbrush? Normally I get good results with Krylon spray but lately I've been getting a lot of frosting, I think from how humid it's been.
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Jul 2, 2021 14:57
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Toebone posted:Can you varnish through an airbrush? Normally I get good results with Krylon spray but lately I've been getting a lot of frosting, I think from how humid it's been. E: i clean the poo poo out of the brush afterwards though
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Jul 2, 2021 15:02
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Toebone posted:Can you varnish through an airbrush? Normally I get good results with Krylon spray but lately I've been getting a lot of frosting, I think from how humid it's been. Yup, you can thin it similarly to acrylic paint. I use Tamiya x-20a thinner with AK ultra matte varnish and it works great.
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Jul 2, 2021 15:09
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Toebone posted:Can you varnish through an airbrush? Normally I get good results with Krylon spray but lately I've been getting a lot of frosting, I think from how humid it's been. Yeah, varnish is pretty much just paint medium with no pigment, I’ve used a bunch of different types with no problems, just this one big bottle of Mecha Matte went bad somehow and got gummy. Going forward I’m only buying small bottles so I dont have to throw away half a 20$ bottle when it happens again.
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Jul 2, 2021 15:10
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Verisimilidude posted:I had the same problem with Stynlrez primer. Once I switched to Vallejo Mecha Primer I never had that problem. Cleaning primer is still a pain in the rear end but at least I don't have to disassemble the airbrush every time I prime a model. Yeah, I had the same issues with Stynlrez primer until I started diluting it with a mix of distilled water/flow-aid/slow-dri
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Jul 2, 2021 15:12
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I got a bottle of AK primer and it's been great right out of the bottle through my sotar 2020 which is like the worst possible airbrush for priming. My buddy had been painting since the 80s and says it's the best he's ever used, especially the gray.
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Jul 2, 2021 15:19
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I've done some more painting this last couple of weeks! I'll spare you the individual shots, but heres the group shots (all for Malifaux); A Lucius Mattheson crew, mix of 1e/2e/3e models. I was looking forward to painting these guys, but aside from Agent 46 (back left) and Lucius himself (Next to agent 46, gold mask) I'm not wildly in love with how they turned out, but spending more time on them wasnt improving them, so I called them good and moved on.  And a Marcus crew, mainly 1e metals with a couple of 2e plastics. Contrast over a zenithal did the bulk of the heavy lifting on his beasts tbh, with a bit of extra drybrushing/highlights here and there. 
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Jul 2, 2021 15:37
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Aside from the Telemon and 3 models, the rest of these guys have all been gloss varnished and are ready for some oil wash. 
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Zuul the Cat posted:Aside from the Telemon and 3 models, the rest of these guys have all been gloss varnished and are ready for some oil wash. Those sand bases are really nice, how'd you do them?
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Jul 2, 2021 16:25
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The Demilich posted:Aaaaaaaand done. Forgive the lovely phone pics.
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Winklebottom posted:Those sand bases are really nice, how'd you do them? This super helpful guide!
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So Krylon and Rustoleum are a-go as long as they are the plastic bonding versions. What about this gloss varnish + oil wash I’ve been hearing about? I can spray some regular gloss varnish on a mini and wash the entire thing with whichever wash and not have to be super careful like during recess shading?
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Sorta. You can slop oil wash all over your model, and over high smooth areas it'll mostly slide off, once it sits. You'll still need to clean it up, but you can rub exposed areas with a swab or a brush with some thinner on it to clean up what you don't want pretty easily. Another option is to just carefully dab oil wash into the areas you want to darken up, like shading recessed details or panel lines. Capillary action will draw the wash into the recess, and you'll have to clean up maybe a little dot at most. As usual, Vince has a video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQmhcSRsiPo
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Jul 2, 2021 18:01
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Bucnasti posted:Yeah, varnish is pretty much just paint medium with no pigment Are you sure about that? I have a bunch of matt varnishes and mediums and they smell very different. The varnishes have a very distinct smell that is very different from the mediums.
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Jul 2, 2021 18:32
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Starting in on a Hordes of Chaos army, first up is the mounted sorcerer. 
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Jul 2, 2021 20:20
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Asking around in a few threads, what do people use for bushes on bases?
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Jul 2, 2021 20:28
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punishedkissinger posted:Asking around in a few threads, what do people use for bushes on bases? Well it depends. Drybrushing: cheap makeup brushes Regular kind of brushing: a really big and crappy synthetic brush I got in a set at Michaels for $5. Then for finer detail a normal brush I'd use on other stuff. For really really big stuff I'll use a really really big brush. For texture pastes I got a bunch of sculpting tools on Amazon and use a spear looking thing to spread it around. A little trowel works fine or a lovely old sugar spoon if you're really in a pinch. For putting on tufts I use some tweezers. For applying static gras I use my fingers. Spanish Manlove fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Jul 2, 2021 |
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Skails posted:Starting in on a Hordes of Chaos army, first up is the mounted sorcerer. Aww man, I remember this guy coming out with the big Chaos release around ~2002(?) and it's still an ominous, characterful sculpt 20 years later. Great work; he reminds me of the evil knights from the old Schwarzeneggar Conan movies. Working on another skeleton now. I tried to use zenithal highlighting again to guide my eye and draw the orange stage out farther. I think he's coming along much better than the first.  
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punishedkissinger posted:Asking around in a few threads, what do people use for bushes on bases? Depends on the scale I'm working at, but usually either clump foliage or pre-made grass tufts.
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Jul 2, 2021 21:10
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Oh, bushes not brushes. I'm dumb. The army painter grass tufts are really good, I like them a lot. I've heard good things about gamer grass too.
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punishedkissinger posted:Asking around in a few threads, what do people use for bushes on bases?
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Harvey Mantaco posted:I got a bottle of AK primer and it's been great right out of the bottle through my sotar 2020 which is like the worst possible airbrush for priming. My buddy had been painting since the 80s and says it's the best he's ever used, especially the gray. Have you tried the larger needles for the Sotar?
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