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Shogi posted:‘Otherwise bullying/harassment. Lord of the Rings’ might be the best Twitter line ever written. Laconic wit for the terminally dogbrained I'm pretty sure she meant lord of the flies as well
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not the only total psycho head teacher in the news today https://twitter.com/commaficionado/status/1411256002549325826?s=20
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Happiness is mandatory, pupil e: learning to respond to whistles to prepare them for later life - so that’s athlete or border collie as your career choices?
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Jul 3, 2021 13:43
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Turns out Thomas gradgrind was the hero of the book. Who knew
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Jul 3, 2021 13:46
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Me: [chanting] fact, fact, fact Teacher: [pounding whistle] FACT, FACT, FACT
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Jose posted:not the only total psycho head teacher in the news today lol American students would have the classrooms set on fire by third period if any non-millionaire school tried this poo poo
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lol American students would have the classrooms set on fire by third period if any non-millionaire school tried this poo poo this is so insane its made it into the daily mail as an example of "look how insane this is"
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Hard Times owns.Gradgrind posted:'Now, what I want is, Facts. Teach these boys and girls nothing but Facts. Facts alone are wanted in life. Plant nothing else, and root out everything else. You can only form the minds of reasoning animals upon Facts: nothing else will ever be of any service to them. This is the principle on which I bring up my own children, and this is the principle on which I bring up these children. Stick to Facts, sir!’
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multijoe posted:I'm pretty sure she meant lord of the flies as well she definitely did, which is very, very funny. that book is a savage critique of the empire, the british upper lip and the utter brutality of both boarding schools and colonialism. so she's saying "if we didn't have (things that are critiqued in Lord of the Flies) we'd have Lord of the Flies!"
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Jul 3, 2021 16:38
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There was a real-life Lord of the Flies situation when 6 schoolboys were stranded on an uninhabited island in the Pacific. They were found fit and healthy after 15 months. Pretty much the first thing they did was set up a buddy system so nobody was ever alone, then established rotas for keeping a signal fire lit 24/7, food gathering and a whole bunch of other duties that were shared equally. They established a communal garden and built coops for chickens that had been living on the island since the previous inhabitants abandoned it. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/09/the-real-lord-of-the-flies-what-happened-when-six-boys-were-shipwrecked-for-15-months
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I really need to stop reading about those kind of teachers Entire new hells are created solely for them, and devils spend centuries plotting tortures and humiliations for them
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Jul 3, 2021 19:34
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I’ve never rooted for Ukraine before.
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Shogi posted:Happiness is mandatory, pupil I'm thinking steam whistle in a sweat shop. They want to turn the population into easily bullied drones. Even 20 years ago I heard urban legends about teens sitting in exam rooms attempting suicide by putting two sharpened pencils in their nose and then ramming their head into the desk. I often thought I went to a bad school. A catholic preist with no teacher qualifications was the headmaster and it showed. A lot of the teachers resented the fact that corporal punishment had been outlawed but it didn't stop them trying to get away with it. I can't imagine what kids today are going through.
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Minicurve went to a engineering free school and it was full of enthusiastic teachers who had been given lots of money by Gove and big cooperations because they felt if they gave poor kids a chance to do cool robot building projects and the Duke of Edinburgh awards like the posh Eton kids do then they would get good results. Oddly enough it turns out if you fund a school properly then that poo poo works. I don’t know why they are not doing this with all schools either. She got 9s and GCSE level qualifications the local college will treat as A levels and is restarting her A level year there because the rona was going to drag her grades down too much.
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the sex ghost posted:Lord of the rings lmao and for a headteacher to say it https://twitter.com/Miss_Snuffy/status/1411215507437522946?s=20 Miss Snuffy
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euphronius posted:I’ve never rooted for Ukraine before. I'm reluctantly supporting England. They've a good team and played reasonably well throughout, although I continue to despise their fans.
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Jul 3, 2021 21:09
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I like when the camera zooms in on the crowd. Ukrainian fans are all ridiculously attractive young men and women, then when it zooms in on the England fans it's all gammon-faced potbellied boomers who look like they might suffer a stroke during the next goal.
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Jul 3, 2021 21:12
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Jul 3, 2021 21:30
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Jon Irenicus posted:it's coming home
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Clyde Radcliffe posted:There was a real-life Lord of the Flies situation when 6 schoolboys were stranded on an uninhabited island in the Pacific. Lord of the Flies was written as a response to a subgenre of boys' adventure literature where British schoolboys would be stranded on an island and survive through stiff upper lip and daring British do. Polynesian kids aren't British schoolboys, and it's a lot easier for 6 kids to get along than an entire class. A major element in Lord of the Flies is that there's enough kids on the island to have politics - with all the paranoia and prejudice that comes with it. And nobody is going to have politics as savage as the products of imperial education.
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Clyde Radcliffe posted:I like when the camera zooms in on the crowd. Ukrainian fans are all ridiculously attractive young men and women, then when it zooms in on the England fans it's all gammon-faced potbellied boomers who look like they might suffer a stroke during the next goal. It's what's on the inside that counts, and they're equally fascist.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Lord of the Flies was written as a response to a subgenre of boys' adventure literature where British schoolboys would be stranded on an island and survive through stiff upper lip and daring British do. Polynesian kids aren't British schoolboys, and it's a lot easier for 6 kids to get along than an entire class. A major element in Lord of the Flies is that there's enough kids on the island to have politics - with all the paranoia and prejudice that comes with it. And nobody is going to have politics as savage as the products of imperial education. nice bedtime story but the closest historical example doesn’t point that way and the boys spoke English so they’re basically British, as is everyone who speaks that language. e: the fellas who ate each other in the Andes were civil to one another too, IIRC
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mawarannahr posted:nice bedtime story but the closest historical example doesn’t point that way and the boys spoke English so they’re basically British, as is everyone who speaks that language. That's true. Americans would observe Robert's Rules of Order all the way through the gutting & cleaning.
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I thought the ultra nationalists were the EU guys in Ukraine
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Lord of the Flies was written as a response to a subgenre of boys' adventure literature where British schoolboys would be stranded on an island and survive through stiff upper lip and daring British do. Polynesian kids aren't British schoolboys, and it's a lot easier for 6 kids to get along than an entire class. A major element in Lord of the Flies is that there's enough kids on the island to have politics - with all the paranoia and prejudice that comes with it. And nobody is going to have politics as savage as the products of imperial education. yeah and you really can't understate how much of a response it was - it's a total rewrite of an existing, honestly kind of lovely book called coral island - which is not subtext, a character at one point literally goes "why did this go all fucky didn't you read coral island???". there the problem is the other direction and you get kids landing on the island and immediately turning into the swiss family robinson, of course we could throw a few good English upper class boys at anything to civilize it. the three main characters in LotF are kind of grotesque parodies of the protagonists in that other novel. the book is kind of about how golding genuinely thought that the only thing keeping children from literally tearing each other apart was social conditioning. i do not think he quite understood that the reason they would was, in fact, very social conditioning and a product of the worst place in the world.
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learnincurve posted:Minicurve went to a engineering free school and it was full of enthusiastic teachers who had been given lots of money by Gove and big cooperations because they felt if they gave poor kids a chance to do cool robot building projects and the Duke of Edinburgh awards like the posh Eton kids do then they would get good results. Because having a permanent underclass is not a bug but a feature of the system. If poor people as a whole could escape poverty who would work all the crap low paying jobs????
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Tbf if you were raised in the British boarding school system would you not murder your seniors as soon as you could?
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Jon Irenicus posted:it's coming home
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CoolCab posted:yeah and you really can't understate how much of a response it was - it's a total rewrite of an existing, honestly kind of lovely book called coral island - which is not subtext, a character at one point literally goes "why did this go all fucky didn't you read coral island???". there the problem is the other direction and you get kids landing on the island and immediately turning into the swiss family robinson, of course we could throw a few good English upper class boys at anything to civilize it. the three main characters in LotF are kind of grotesque parodies of the protagonists in that other novel. The best detail is how at the end they're rescued by a British warship, which means the world of the island is the world of adults in miniature.
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Junkozeyne posted:Because having a permanent underclass is not a bug but a feature of the system. If poor people as a whole could escape poverty who would work all the crap low paying jobs???? Immigr.... oh.
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this rules in contrast atlee; corbyn obviously respected and emulated his temperament https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlcn6JtQX_s
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lmfao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvPqj6V3HnU
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Jul 4, 2021 09:11
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Labour getting in line with Brexit now. If you can't beat the tories out-nationalist the tories. https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1411626397647376385 https://twitter.com/dontbrexitfixit/status/1411598093548756993
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How is that Starmer’s fault? Do they expect him to go out and pick all the strawberries himself?
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It's funny to pretend "buying British" is a choice after Brexit.
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learnincurve posted:How is that Starmer’s fault? Do they expect him to go out and pick all the strawberries himself? It's not like he has anything else to do.
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mawarannahr posted:nice bedtime story but the closest historical example doesn’t point that way and the boys spoke English so they’re basically British, as is everyone who speaks that language. tbf to the survivors in the Andes, they ate the bodies of passengers who'd been killed in the crash.
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