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Guavanaut posted:At the time he was born, New Brunswick wasn't part of Canada, it was British North America. He was a British North American (but not Usian, yes). True but I basically feel that we can't blame Canada for what the southern territories became. Johnson is absolutely American. His similarities to Trump aren't accidental.
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As a woman, I always found (and still do) the description of 'smart casual' very confusing. In my 30s I would turn up to things saying 'smart casual' in a t-shirt with no skulls on it because obviously that is casual, but it is smart because I skipped the skulls. Everyone else would be turned out in what I call 'wedding clothes' including - god forbid - hats! That to me is not 'casual' but 'posh do'; Buckingham-Palace-Garden-Party-wear, if you will.
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Jul 3, 2021 14:10
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OwlFancier posted:That's not new, there was some lunatic academy down south that was marching the kids around in perfect silence all the time, real serial killer poo poo. Possibly Mossbourne Academy. The headteacher who implemented that, along with the 'recite the school ethos before every lesson' motif was Michael Wilshaw, who was made Chief Inspector of OFSTED by (of course) Michael Gove, for whom the worst thing about school is the possibility that a child somewhere might have some free will. In fairness to Wilshaw, his strategy did work for some of the things he meant it to work for. The area the school is in is very deprived, with lots of the pupils having chaotic home lives. So having a strict, ordered setup at Of course, every other school that apes this approach pretty much ends up failing, because the morons in charge are usually of the 'I hate actually teaching, so I'm going to career-progress so I don't have to teach' persuasion and, as a result, know gently caress-all about the young people in their schools.
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Jul 3, 2021 14:11
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Hah, that reminded me of my schoolmates (expat British and Irish) arguing in PE class about whether it was pronounced Seltic or Keltic. But then I also remember them arguing about whether Marylin Manson was the name of the band, or the name of the woman from the band. Kids argue about silly things.
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Jul 3, 2021 14:11
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kingturnip posted:Possibly Mossbourne Academy. The headteacher who implemented that, along with the 'recite the school ethos before every lesson' motif was Michael Wilshaw, who was made Chief Inspector of OFSTED by (of course) Michael Gove, for whom the worst thing about school is the possibility that a child somewhere might have some free will. It was a woman who was in charge of it, though I think the name michael reminded me that I think it was called the michaeaela academy or something?
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Jul 3, 2021 14:17
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Miftan posted:Seems easy enough to say 'no sports teams' in situations like that as opposed to 'you all have to look like mini Jacob Rees-Moggs' Gyro Zeppeli posted:At my school in the west of Scotland, "no football colours" was in effect for PE and it was never a problem. Sure, but I can see why it's less confrontational to make them wear uniforms here. You had a lot of rivalry in my area with local GAA football teams, each small town has its own colours, so much that they would kick the poo poo out of each other if they saw each other out on a weekend night.
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Jul 3, 2021 14:17
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Yeah that was it. https://time.com/5232857/michaela-britains-strictest-school/ loving insanity.
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Jul 3, 2021 14:18
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OwlFancier posted:It was a woman who was in charge of it, though I think the name michael reminded me that I think it was called the michaeaela academy or something? I think you're thinking of Katharine Birbalsingh of Michaela Community School, who became known for ultra-strict pointless rules, including silence in corridors and no excuses for anything ever, even if you're ill. Or abuse, as one might also call it. See also: https://twitter.com/orridge_anna/status/1411281224308559878?s=21 vvvv I'm thinking the confusion comes from "casual" being the least-formal extreme of things that have a dress code, rather than actual casual clothing worn by normal people. Like, I might end up in that Ted-Mosby-looking-guy "casual" outfit when manning a trade show booth, but for me that's "uncomfortably smart, can't wait to change back into my jeans/cargo shorts and t-shirt". Bobstar fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Jul 3, 2021 |
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Jul 3, 2021 14:19
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Tesseraction posted:Johnson is absolutely American. His similarities to Trump aren't accidental. Jaeluni Asjil posted:As a woman, I always found (and still do) the description of 'smart casual' very confusing. 
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Jul 3, 2021 14:19
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Bobstar posted:I think you're thinking of Katharine Birbalsingh of Michaela Community School, who became known for ultra-strict pointless rules, including silence in corridors and no excuses for anything ever, even if you're ill. Yeah her, absolute psycho poo poo.
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Jul 3, 2021 14:22
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I have rear end-mar, Mr Frodo
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Jul 3, 2021 14:36
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Guavanaut posted:lol Melton.
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Jul 3, 2021 14:40
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Bottom row is just my chemical romance > panic at the disco > the killers > a guy who works in the pharmacy.
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Jul 3, 2021 14:41
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Jul 3, 2021 14:47
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I basically always wear the "guy who works at the pharmacy" look I still get poo poo on for being too formal by my housemates but then again I don't have to change when I work from home and it's comfortable enough?
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Jul 3, 2021 14:48
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The spectrum of dress codes might end up better too. OwlFancier posted:Bottom row is just my chemical romance > panic at the disco > the killers > a guy who works in the pharmacy. https://twitter.com/gracepetrie/status/1254419775528321028
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Jul 3, 2021 14:48
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JollyBoyJohn posted:I am 5'3 without shoes and thats the kinda short where you look up to children. high five gnome buddy
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Jul 3, 2021 14:57
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Bobstar posted:Teapuccino *Hot* water? You've obviously got access to a better class of Dutch person than I have, because at best I've been offered a glass of lukewarm water and one of those wooden boxes of teabags and a look of dull surprise if I ask for boiling water, as if I'd asked for a fish finger to stir it with or something. Even the French can be persuaded to provide you with at least acceptable tea-making tackle (although you may have to kidnap their children to make them do so, they at least get the *concept*) but come on a cafe in Amsterdam probably has more British and Irish punters than one in Leicester Square. How can this possibly be a surprise to you?
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Jul 3, 2021 15:03
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big scary monsters posted:I know it sounds like a joke about tight northerners but a friend of mine from East Yorks literally used to dry out his teabags on a line above the sink and reuse them. He claimed that Yorkshire Tea is made extra strong with that very thing in mind. I mean... yeah? Maybe not dry it out, that's a bit weird, but you can easily get two and maybe even three cups out of a single bag if you're willing to let it brew a little while. That's sort of how teabags work, after all.
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Jul 3, 2021 15:04
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I mean back in the day you'd put a teabag in a teapot and pour multiple cups. The one-per-mug thing is more about people not being arsed to own/pull out a teapot
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Jul 3, 2021 15:06
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Guavanaut posted:Bubble tea is interesting but I can imagine the novelty wearing off. Lol what a weird coincidence, I was literally going to post about this - went up West for the first time since the end of lockdown, which was a bit of an experience to be honest, and every single shop in Chinatown selling bubble tea had a queue/scrum outside like it was Black Friday. I've never had it myself, but I can't imagine standing around in light drizzle with a hundred people in front of me just for a cup (glass?) of *anything*, or at least anything that it's legal to sell.
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Jul 3, 2021 15:07
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Lmao 'creative black tie' apparently means wearing a different colour waistcoat. Men's clothes are so drat boring.
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Jul 3, 2021 15:09
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Jul 3, 2021 15:12
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Mr Phillby posted:What even is the difference between 'black tie optional' and 'business'? The range of acceptable colours and cuts of the suit, basically. Black-tie optional basically means greys and blacks, with at most a chalkstripe as ornament, French-cuff shirt, and black shoes (not that any well dressed man would ever wear anything but, of course). It used to be slightly more pronounced because "business" used to be separate from "semi-formal" and would specifically mean grey flannel trousers with a black or pinstripe jacket (originally with tails, but still only ever single-breasted and single-vented even when they went away), a bowler or other full-brimmed hat, and a shitload of weird rules about ties and poo poo. It mostly went away by the late 60s/early 70s (but stayed on in in the civil service and the law well into the 80s). It was actually sort of practical - the idea behind the grey flannel trousers is they would need to be washed much more frequently than the jacket and so the contrast as the trousers faded was much less notable. Semi-formal was just the stuff you wore when not in your business attire - you could have other colours, even checks, and tweeds, worsteds, and all those other racey accoutrements, as well as button collars and cuffs instead of bands and cufflinks.
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Jul 3, 2021 15:23
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Guavanaut posted:They were both born in the same hospital in NY, but I don't know if it was designed by Ivo Shandor. That's hilarious. I'd say the women's 'business casual' is more formal than the 'business formal' in that pic. Since when were bare arms on a woman EVER 'formal' for business. Acceptable formal for ball gowns.? I gave up in the end and just say to friends who say 'come as you are' (hilarious - they really don't want that ruining their group photos!) or 'smart casual' - look at my clothes and tell me what to wear. I have no idea. I have a male friend who does the same for all those variants on male dress codes.
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Jul 3, 2021 15:28
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Lol what a weird coincidence, I was literally going to post about this - went up West for the first time since the end of lockdown, which was a bit of an experience to be honest, and every single shop in Chinatown selling bubble tea had a queue/scrum outside like it was Black Friday. I've never had it myself, but I can't imagine standing around in light drizzle with a hundred people in front of me just for a cup (glass?) of *anything*, or at least anything that it's legal to sell. I drank bubble tea so you don't have to. It is DISGUSTING. I remember most guys at work finding 'dress down Fridays' very difficult to negotiate their way around! Most of them used to wear the same as the rest of the week sans tie. Always struck me as odd that it was not considered acceptable for men to come to work in shorts or take their jacket off unless the boss did, but women (younger ones anyway) would come in with bare bellies, thongs showing (when that was the fashion) and sleeveless tops with gaping arm holes revealing their bosoms (and then spend all their time moaning about the cold and sneakily turning the office thermostats up). Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Jul 3, 2021 |
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Jul 3, 2021 15:31
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Pablo Bluth posted:I assume the not going to the toilet between lessons is missing the bit about pissing in a bottle during the lesson.
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Jul 3, 2021 15:34
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Tesseraction posted:I mean back in the day you'd put a teabag in a teapot and pour multiple cups. No. Back in the day we put one heaped teaspoonful of loose tea per person plus an extra spoonful 'for the pot' into the pot. When teabags arrived, the pot was abandoned.
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Jul 3, 2021 15:34
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Mr Phillby posted:More than anything else the toilet thing seems like abject cruelty. Isn't between lessons the ideal time for piss break? Do they only have 30 seconds to get vetween classrooms what the gently caress Also girls just starting their periods, they are often highly irregular for the first few years and can cause horrible flooding so girls are sitting there with the back of their skirts all sticky with blood. (Also a risk during menopause too but that doesn't tend to be a problem for school girls).
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Jul 3, 2021 15:36
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I just bought a nice teapot and some loose leaves. It's a proper Sunday morning treat.
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Jul 3, 2021 15:36
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Bobstar posted:I think you're thinking of Katharine Birbalsingh of Michaela Community School, who became known for ultra-strict pointless rules, including silence in corridors and no excuses for anything ever, even if you're ill. That is deeply funny. Not knowing the difference between Lord of the Flies & Lord of the Rings. Big brain stuff.
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Jul 3, 2021 15:36
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Also girls just starting their periods, they are often highly irregular for the first few years and can cause horrible flooding so girls are sitting there with the back of their skirts all sticky with blood. (Also a risk during menopause too but that doesn't tend to be a problem for school girls).
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Jul 3, 2021 15:46
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The Venn diagram between men that think that and men that think there's no reason for comprehensive sexual health education is a vesica piscis, because the sets outside of the intersection are empty.
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Jul 3, 2021 15:51
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I'm in Soho RIGHT NOW and bubble tea is definitely a Thing now - there's a whole bunch of places with trendy young people queueing up outside. Strange times.
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Jul 3, 2021 16:00
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forkboy84 posted:That is deeply funny. Not knowing the difference between Lord of the Flies & Lord of the Rings. Big brain stuff. Free Schools are an exemplar neofeudal idea. If you have enough money to be able to lobby ministers to open a school, you're automatically capable of running a school.
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Jul 3, 2021 16:04
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kingturnip posted:Free Schools are an exemplar neofeudal idea. Some years ago, a consortium of education professionals put in a bid to run a free school and were rejected - yet Toby Young was accepted!
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Jul 3, 2021 16:10
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:As a woman, I always found (and still do) the description of 'smart casual' very confusing. It's this stupid hangover from the days when dress codes were for the upper classes and those that wanted to ape their ways. Proper 'formal' wear (for men) is a morning suit before 6pm and white tie evening dress after 6pm. 'Semi-formal' is a business suit in the day and black tie in the evening. 'Casual wear' was what you wore in the countryside and involved tweed. In this world 'smart casual' meant a blazer, shirt and trousers but not a proper matching suit. The sort of thing you'd wear while travelling betwixt town and country, or when on your yacht at Cowes. And that's not even getting into what the equivalents for the ladies are. But because hardly anyone these days lives their lives like they're in Downton Abbey all these things have taken on different meanings for normal people, where the most formal thing most folk will ever wear is a Moss Bros. suit to a wedding and casual is, well, both really casual and really varied. I suspect it's all wrapped up in classism and a way of belittling people without the insider knowledge or means to play the ephemeral and deliberately flexible rules - "Oh, aren't you a scruffy git because you thought 'smart casual meant new dark blue jeans and a plain polo shirt. It actually means a two-piece suit of non-matching colours with an optional tie! Haw! Haw! Haw!"
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Jul 3, 2021 16:18
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Pistol_Pete posted:I'm in Soho RIGHT NOW and bubble tea is definitely a Thing now - there's a whole bunch of places with trendy young people queueing up outside. Strange times. It’s strange because bubble tea has been around for ages. I think I first had it in 2005.
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Jul 3, 2021 16:20
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 goddamnedtwisto posted:*Hot* water? You've obviously got access to a better class of Dutch person than I have, because at best I've been offered a glass of lukewarm water and one of those wooden boxes of teabags and a look of dull surprise if I ask for boiling water, as if I'd asked for a fish finger to stir it with or something. TBH I'm basing this off the office kitchen, where they use hot water because that's what comes out of the kettle. Now that you mention it though, I do remember the glass mug? cup? thing of tepid water at cafes, from the beforetimes. And yes, the Wooden Box of Choice. Bobstar fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jul 3, 2021 |
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Comrade Fakename posted:It’s strange because bubble tea has been around for ages. I think I first had it in 2005. Yeah, there's been shops selling it around Chinatown for ages (I think the one in Newport Court was there from about 2000) and they always seemed to be doing an okay trade, but for some reason today it was absolutely mad, especially as there's like a dozen shops selling it now.
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