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As far as I'm aware the "OLED Evo" panels that are new to the G1 and above were the first significant revision in the panels themselves since the beginning of the mainstream OLED TV market. Everything else has been in the display controller, image processor, etc.
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2016 6 series was a pretty significant jump from the prior gen, since then there hasn't been much until the G1 series. Even that though I don't think is a whole new panel design.
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One of the layers in the Evo panel uses a new material that's more heat absorbent, allowing the LEDs to be driven harder, making them brighter.
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My LG C1 just recently installed a new firmware. I went into the settings menu and saw this. I now see a completely different settings menu when the TV is in game mode. loving kill me. I should have just bought a big rear end PC monitor. I mean, I appreciate the effort. But now I have yet another set of setting and muscle memory to keep up with. So now I have.
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Jul 2, 2021 01:44
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Dear lord, that looks like whoever designed it thought they were working on a gaming laptop.
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They really felt like saying FPS instead of Hz was going to be better with teh gamers. Sadly they're probably right.
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Jul 2, 2021 02:53
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The other game menu was somehow worse though and you did have to drill down and get to it, and it was a long scrolling page. I don't like the new menu but they simplified access when in game mode but yeah, looks bad.
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McCracAttack posted:I now see a completely different settings menu when the TV is in game mode. loving kill me. I should have just bought a big rear end PC monitor. I mean, I appreciate the effort. But now I have yet another set of setting and muscle memory to keep up with. So now I have.
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American McGay posted:Why wouldn't you want this? Also isn't that more of a "set it once and then forget it" kinda thing? My complaint is the menus completely re-arrange themselves under certain conditions. I would be fine with settings just greying out when they weren't relevant. That's part of why it's taking so long to "set it and forget it". Also the TV is full of "smart" features that try to auto-adjust the picture. I keep finding new ones to turn off. Oh, and the TV has a bad audio lag issue when I try to pass Dolby Digital audio through it. I had just spent an hour monkeying with that when I tried updating the firmware and then that new "gamer menu" showed up. I'm losing patience with this TV. wash bucket fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Jul 2, 2021 |
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McCracAttack posted:I'm losing patience with this TV. I'll take it off your hands!
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Around a couple of months ago I got a 65in cx and have been loving it for the most part, but I started noticing vertical banding a few weeks after having the tv. I’m starting to get used to it, but it is disappointing having uniformity issues since I got an oled to avoid dirty screen effect, and I’m wondering if it would be worth considering a return. Banding is mostly noticeable in video games where the background/sky is largely uniform and desaturated colors, or if there is hazy lighting in a dark area. I wouldn’t describe the conditions as near-dark so I’m wondering, is this normal? I also see banding on Amazon prime and Disney+ splash screens, as well as the default ps5 background (it’s harder to notice there though). It seems like it’s more likely than not for an oled to have banding and I don’t want to start going down the road or returning multiple panels, but if the C1 has better uniformity I’d consider seeing if I could swap for one since I’m still in my return window.
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icecreamcheesesteak posted:Around a couple of months ago I got a 65in cx and have been loving it for the most part, but I started noticing vertical banding a few weeks after having the tv. I’m starting to get used to it, but it is disappointing having uniformity issues since I got an oled to avoid dirty screen effect, and I’m wondering if it would be worth considering a return. Banding is mostly noticeable in video games where the background/sky is largely uniform and desaturated colors, or if there is hazy lighting in a dark area. I wouldn’t describe the conditions as near-dark so I’m wondering, is this normal? I also see banding on Amazon prime and Disney+ splash screens, as well as the default ps5 background (it’s harder to notice there though). It seems like it’s more likely than not for an oled to have banding and I don’t want to start going down the road or returning multiple panels, but if the C1 has better uniformity I’d consider seeing if I could swap for one since I’m still in my return window. Given they don't have backlighting, I wasn't aware DSE is an issue at all for OLEDs. Can you take a picture? And to be clear, we're not talking about banding that happens with low color depth images right? edit: NM I googled it and see what you're talking about. Strange. Some REDDIT folks say it mostly resolves itself with use? edit 2: Also this vid recommends running the Pixel Refresher? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf0krvdSuv8 BonoMan fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Jul 2, 2021 |
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Hmm. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/06/not-just-oled-lg-is-about-to-release-its-first-mini-led-tvs/
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Yeah that’s the banding I’m talking about. I’ve seen it mentioned that running the pixel refresher can help but apparently it’s made the issue worse for people too, so I’ve held off on doing it.
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got a new 77" c1. do stuck pixels go away from scene to scene or is army of the dead(holy gently caress this movie is bad) just hosed in a few scenes? I'm not seeing it on a random YouTube picture test that runs through colors but now I'm loving paranoid.
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KidDynamite posted:got a new 77" c1. do stuck pixels go away from scene to scene or is army of the dead(holy gently caress this movie is bad) just hosed in a few scenes? I'm not seeing it on a random YouTube picture test that runs through colors but now I'm loving paranoid. It's just Army of the Dead
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KidDynamite posted:got a new 77" c1. do stuck pixels go away from scene to scene or is army of the dead(holy gently caress this movie is bad) just hosed in a few scenes? I'm not seeing it on a random YouTube picture test that runs through colors but now I'm loving paranoid.
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It really maybe army of the dead. Movie did not look good at all.
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On LG remotes where is the button to show the incoming feed details (resolution in particular)? I don't get this loving remote at all. TV is good but unsurprisingly struggles with 4k streaming over wi-fi but I now have an Xbox one to handle all the smart features anyway.
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On my CX it's the button with the three dots next to the number 0, hit that and select Information.
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KidDynamite posted:got a new 77" c1. do stuck pixels go away from scene to scene or is army of the dead(holy gently caress this movie is bad) just hosed in a few scenes? I'm not seeing it on a random YouTube picture test that runs through colors but now I'm loving paranoid. Army of the Dead was shot with some cameras that had dead pixels on the sensor
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Incessant Excess posted:On my CX it's the button with the three dots next to the number 0, hit that and select Information. Brilliant, thank you!
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BonoMan posted:Army of the Dead was shot with some cameras that had dead pixels on the sensor What the gently caress
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GreenNight posted:What the gently caress Dunno why Netflix couldn't pay a VFX company $2 Mil to run a Nearest Neighbor thing for the affected scenes tho.
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You have to be a real rear end in a top hat to leave a missing pixel on your movie. Did no one see it or they just don't give a poo poo?
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It's real man, real cinema! It's a happy accident and it's now an integral part of the Vision!
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I want to spend about a hundred dollars and get the most garbage-rear end television with zero features possible. I want "turns on" and "has HDMI port and outputs sound" and I care about literally nothing else. Is that even possible in 2021? This technically isn't the thread to ask that, but I'm sure I'm not the first Luddite to wander in here. e: I should probably clarify that "about a hundred" really means like sub-$300, and I don't actively need an enormous screen although of course I'd take more real estate at any point. I'm used to playing games on a 27" monitor so really anything 32" or above is going to feel big, etc. DACK FAYDEN fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Jul 5, 2021 |
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I want to spend about a hundred dollars and get the most garbage-rear end television with zero features possible. I want "turns on" and "has HDMI port" and literally nothing else. Is that even possible in 2021? Here are a couple of cheap non-smart TVs in the 32-39" size range, under $125. They probably suck, but hey, cheap. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Sceptre-32-Class-1080P-FHD-LED-TV-X325BV-FSR/774297583 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Seiki-39-Class-HD-LED-TV-SC-39HS950N/970134792
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Aware posted:Lol the X900H most definitely does not have VRR yet and may never. 4k120 is still broken too displaying 1080p vertically so poo poo is blurry particularly noticeable with a desktop. I run a 65" X900H from a desktop with a 3080. Sony really overpromised and ubderdelivered here. Ah yes, I want to apologize for getting this wrong. That was me misreading eventual support as current, which I am now rereading as pretty unlikely ever. Or I may have been duped by some misleading marketing because I think I would have remembered if the original plan was "maybe no vrr ever". This is like the refresh rate debacle with "120" plastered all over everything, 60hz or not. But I'm sure the x900h has the "variable refresh rate motion index" set to "on". DACK FAYDEN posted:I want to spend about a hundred dollars and get the most garbage-rear end television with zero features possible. I want "turns on" and "has HDMI port and outputs sound" and I care about literally nothing else. Is that even possible in 2021? Hisense and TCL are both reputable budget brands with generally non-garbage panel quality and a smaller feature set on the lower end. Check out a 43" TCL 4 Series and you'll be doing way better than an element/onn/sceptre etc.
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A Bag of Milk posted:Ah yes, I want to apologize for getting this wrong. That was me misreading eventual support as current, which I am now rereading as pretty unlikely ever. Or I may have been duped by some misleading marketing because I think I would have remembered if the original plan was "maybe no vrr ever". This is like the refresh rate debacle with "120" plastered all over everything, 60hz or not. But I'm sure the x900h has the "variable refresh rate motion index" set to "on". All good, it's Sony's fault not yours. It's still a great LCD TV for 4k60 and I wouldn't discourage anyone from grabbing one cheap but I'm disappointed it can't do 4k120 properly let alone VRR as a couch PC gamer and the fact Sony marketed these features hard early on. You can't notice the 4k120 blur much ingame and it is nice and smooth but you see it immediately when you switch back to desktop. For console gaming it's probably 'fine' but I only have a Switch as far as consoles go.
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A Bag of Milk posted:Hisense and TCL are both reputable budget brands with generally non-garbage panel quality and a smaller feature set on the lower end. Check out a 43" TCL 4 Series and you'll be doing way better than an element/onn/sceptre etc. Do you know if I can side load apps on the Android TV version of the TVLs? Right now I'm using a different launcher to get around seeing ads on my ShieldTV, and I'd like to do the same on the TCL, which is going to be a patio TV.
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I've done it on other TVs with android
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Can anyone recommend me some quality sound bars? Mid cost to high is my price range, I’d like something that will provide good quality across multiple ranges. I’m not an avid tv watcher so it doesn’t have to be the highest quality, I’d like to prioritize value while getting off my in-built tv speakers. I have a separate solution for listening to music, so I’m not super concerned with a bar that is focused on bass. Thanks!
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Do you want a simple but sturdy 2.0 bar? A 3.1 bar? Surround? Wireless subs or rears? Cuz it can get crazy.
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FilthyImp posted:Do you want a simple but sturdy 2.0 bar? A 3.1 bar? Surround? Wireless subs or rears? Cuz it can get crazy. 3.1 with wireless subs sounds like a happy medium, 5.1 moving above $500 doesn’t sound like a direction I want to go atm
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I do like the Sony line though they're pricey. You can find some Vizio crap for cheaper though.
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My LG CX has a uniformity issue that I'm not sure how to get addressed. In a dark room, at near black but not fully black levels, there is an oval shaped area that is distinctly darker then everywhere else. It's mostly noticeable when the TV goes from displaying a bunch of bright stuff to a dark background. Not sure how to get it fixed, cause I can't always reproduce it, and when I call them for help they always wanna try a quick fix and see if it's still bad, but I can't tell if it's still bad in the middle of the day in a bright room - hell, sometimes can't tell in a dark room unless the right content is played, can't just fire up a solid screen test on YouTube. Any recommendations? I'm considering just living with it, but don't wanna cause the TV was incredibly expensive
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Has my 2018 Vizio PQ65 been passed up by the likes of the TCL R635 and other MiniLED TVs? I still feel like it's the top tier performer it was back then, but the LG OLEDs look so sexy whenever I go to Costco.
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Thom Yorke raps posted:My LG CX has a uniformity issue that I'm not sure how to get addressed. Many if not most OLEDs have near-black uniformity variations. These often show up as lighter or darker bands and/or blotches. You can try to exchange and hope you get a "better" one, but you run the risk of actually getting a worse one. See this thread and mentally compare your set to the photos other users have taken: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/oled-screen-uniformity-discussion-banding-and-vignetting.2896737/ I guess if you notice it a lot, it's worth trying to get another one...but if you only notice it in very limited circumstances it might be better to keep it.
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I have my Windows "high contrast" theme set to OLED-friendly colors, and have the background set at 2% gray. In HDR modes at maximum power saving (equivalent to a "0" OLED Light setting), I noticed a kind of reverse image retention, where that gray turned black for a short time following a bright white. Completely imperceptible unless in that specific circumstance in a pitch-black room, but it sounds like the same sort of behavior. I have a hunch it's temperature-related.
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