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after my struggle session i'd just like to publically state that states have been ruling humanity for billions and millions of years
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Epic High Five posted:ive got a degree in truckin and fuckin and I say Marxism-Leninism-Maoist is the light actually I’ll have you know that this has already been tried for over two hundred and sixty years and the results are, let me tell you, not looking good for communists
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Jul 5, 2021 03:32
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Larry Parrish posted:is he wrong. who cares that you have a history degree. i wouldn't trust someone on the basis of their secondary education in pretty much any scenario. Degrees aren't from secondary education
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Jul 5, 2021 03:42
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xtal posted:Degrees aren't from secondary education the point is who cares lol if you choose to post about your BA in the socialism jokes forum you’re a fuckin loser
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Jul 5, 2021 03:44
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indigi posted:the point is who cares lol if you choose to post about your BA in the socialism jokes forum you’re a fuckin loser Gotta justify spending so much on my political science degree
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Jul 5, 2021 03:52
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i also have a history degree it has made me the poster you see today. i'd consider it a waste of money if i ever planned on paying for it
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Jul 5, 2021 03:58
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I have a history degree and I noticed that you registered your account two days before 9/11. Coincidence?
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Jul 5, 2021 04:20
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xtal posted:Degrees aren't from secondary education you are not wanted dipshit.
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Jul 5, 2021 04:22
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indigi posted:the point is who cares lol if you choose to post about your BA in the socialism jokes forum you’re a fuckin loser Lol you're the one who melted down though
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Jul 5, 2021 05:16
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Over a shitpost in a comedy forum lllol
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Jul 5, 2021 05:21
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hello my name is Zuzie
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Jul 5, 2021 05:23
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I am renouncing and editing my core spiritual and ideological convictions because someone farted at me over the internet
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Jul 5, 2021 05:27
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that’s “Zuzie” with a “z”
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Jul 5, 2021 05:30
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Larry Parrish posted:you are not wanted dipshit. Gonna start calling you Mars Climate Orbiter cause you're mixing up all these degrees
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xtal posted:Gonna start calling you Mars Climate Orbiter cause you're mixing up all these degrees i know you feed off of negative attention but this is the most painfully unfunny poo poo
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Jul 5, 2021 05:51
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xtal posted:Gonna start calling you Mars Climate Orbiter cause you're mixing up all these degrees ... what?
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Jul 5, 2021 07:16
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can someone translate from Detached Negative Attention Guy into human language for me
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indigi posted:nice appeal to authority loving lol
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Jul 5, 2021 08:27
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I'm glad i have a computer science degree, which means I get to be smug and right about everything.
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thotsky posted:I'm glad i have a computer science degree, which means I get to be smug and right about everything. 
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Jul 5, 2021 11:36
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lol i never noticed the degree is from evergreen state college
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Larry Parrish posted:can someone translate from Detached Negative Attention Guy into human language for me Yes, start here: https://www.merriam-webster.com/
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Rutibex posted:i watched a documentary recently about poverty reduction in China and one example stuck out to me, a family of former farmers who had been relocated off of their land into an apartment in a city by the central government. a few members of the family were assigned jobs in the local factory and they were miserable at the loss of their independence Rutibex posted:yup this is the exact part i was referring to, socialist government taking away a families garden because its not efficient i always like to contrast china with i think is its closest comparison, in india. both countries emerged in the late 40s as independent countries with massive levels of poverty, illiteracy and huge masses of peasantry engaged in farming. they have taken radically divergent paths with obvious differences in out comes. land reforms in india led to millions of freeholding peasants owning their own tiny little plots of land (similar to the situation in the USSR between 1917 and the collectivization drive in the late 20s/early 30s). the consolidation of farmland still happens there under capitalism because consolidated agriculture is more efficient and leads to higher yields. small landowners get their lands appropriated by agribusiness because they cannot compete, in india this often takes the form of putting them into debt slavery because they need loans to survive and then forcing them to flee their land and go to the cities to live in extremely bad urban slums when the debtors come calling (or they just commit suicide). it seems the people in your documentary had a far better fate than that. the recent massive unrest in india over the farm bills is because the government wants to remove what subsidies still exist for small farmers to maintain their independence from agribusiness. you also don't need to go to the third world to see this in action, agribusiness has gobbled up and driven out family farmers in the first world as well with brief pauses and exceptions for government subsidies propping (some) of them up. fundamentally your vision of strong independent yeomen owning their own little plots of land cannot exist without being subsidized by the rest of society. the only genuine choices you have are consolidation at the hands of the free market, or collectivization (the ultimate evil for libertarians like you). if you require the rest of society to prop you up in order for you to exist, it begs the question of why society shouldn't ask you to allocate your labor to somewhere its collectively useful instead. mila kunis has issued a correction as of 22:11 on Jul 5, 2021 |
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which lib dipshit changed Larry’s custom title
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not me. i'd have made sure to write "CPC"
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Jul 5, 2021 22:32
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https://twitter.com/yvesduv/status/1412300427727708160 if america pull out of the forever wars the dominoes will fall, and there will be fields of corpses like the ones in cambodia where america supported the people doing the genocide. and i say this as an anarchist
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mila kunis posted:https://twitter.com/yvesduv/status/1412300427727708160 crosspostin Kaedric posted:Point sort of ruined by linking to Caleb Maupin, who is sort of the 'communist' version of Vaush (meaning: a complete idiot moron who doesn't, or shouldn't, represent what they say they are)
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whos caleb maupin and what did he do
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unfortunately vaush is very typical of American anarchists so it’s kind of a no true Scotsman thing at this point to paint him as anything else
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indigi posted:unfortunately vaush is very typical of American anarchists so it’s kind of a no true Scotsman thing at this point to paint him as anything else ehhhh I've made the point before but I'd say more 'typical of people who CALL themselves anarchists'. I know it's fun to dunk on morons, but someone calling themselves something doesn't make them that thing. Similarly, I extend the same courtesy to the below mila kunis posted:whos caleb maupin and what did he do Same thing. Someone who says they are communist and has a big following and lots of hot takes, but (to me) is not representative of actual communists. I don't want to sound like a broken record, I just like this thread more when it's actually talking about what the future of communism looks like or should be, and less about finding random idiots online who pretend they are revolutionaries just because it's gauche to outright say you're a democrat.
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mila kunis posted:https://twitter.com/yvesduv/status/1412300427727708160
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Kaedric posted:ehhhh I've made the point before but I'd say more 'typical of people who CALL themselves anarchists'. theres a pretty long and proud tradition of pro-empire leftists and i disagree, this guy is pretty representative of a lot of these "ALL states are bad -> the states the empire targets are particularly bad and we should emphasize their badness -> we should vote joe biden for harm reduction -> heres why the american empire is the lesser evil actually" trajectories this rear end in a top hat and similar others are trying to shepherd their audience towards that said in the grand scheme of things this is a microscopic portion of people, 99.9999% of people haven't heard of him although he's getting more exposure recently, its just funny stuff to post about
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mila kunis posted:https://twitter.com/yvesduv/status/1412300427727708160 vaush is afraid of the Khmer rouge because he is the glasses wearing nerd that will end up in a ditch if that happened and he knows it
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mila kunis posted:theres a pretty long and proud tradition of pro-empire leftists and i disagree, this guy is pretty representative of a lot of these "ALL states are bad -> the states the empire targets are particularly bad and we should emphasize their badness -> we should vote joe biden for harm reduction -> heres why the american empire is the lesser evil actually" trajectories this rear end in a top hat and similar others are trying to shepherd their audience towards Anarchists used to kill western heads of states for being imperialist pigs, oppose WWI when the Western socialist parties wouldn't (although not Kropotkin lol), and do general strikes. Chomsky is also more ardently anti-imperialist than spooks and dweebs like Robert Evans and Vaush. So I'd say that there is a tradition of "real anarchists" that are unequivocally better than the current crop of losers and liberal faux-revolutionaries, even if many aren't far removed from liberalism e.g. Chomsky.
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Top City Homo posted:vaush is afraid of the Khmer rouge because he is the glasses wearing nerd that will end up in a ditch if that happened and he knows it this is why I too am afraid of the Khmer Rouge. I think anyone with an account in SA would be on their short list for ditch occupancy
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indigi posted:this is why I too am afraid of the Khmer Rouge. I think anyone with an account in SA would be on their short list for ditch occupancy sure but i think he is just afraid of a cultural revolution type scenario he knows that he is an over-socialized lil Eichmann who hates half the country and his material interests are best served in the current society as it exists neoliberalism is factually his socialism
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Yossarian-22 posted:Anarchists used to kill western heads of states for being imperialist pigs, oppose WWI when the Western socialist parties wouldn't (although not Kropotkin lol), and do general strikes. Chomsky is also more ardently anti-imperialist than spooks and dweebs like Robert Evans and Vaush. So I'd say that there is a tradition of "real anarchists" that are unequivocally better than the current crop of losers and liberal faux-revolutionaries, even if many aren't far removed from liberalism e.g. Chomsky. you shouldn't forget the other group of socialists that stayed antiwar in WWI. debs ran for president from prison for opposing the war
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