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Emrikol
Oct 1, 2015
The ink witches also have giant ink brushes instead of brooms.

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SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

amigolupus posted:

Come to think of it, Snout is using a small paint brush to write on his journal, right? I'd understand if he was using a pen or a quill, but a brush seems really awkward to use.
That's just a pencil going Super Saiyan.

Caphi
Jan 6, 2012

INCREDIBLE
This library run by orcs for a city of orcs sure has a lot of books about orcs in English.

I'm not saying it can't have any, but I don't remember if it's a border town or the library itself caters to Callanian visitors.

Regalingualius
Jan 7, 2012

We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.




I could see something like “our benefactor put an enchantment that auto-translates everything to your preferred language while you’re in bounds of the library” as an explanation. Maybe make a quick gag where he checks them out to read back at Arudak’s, only to find out that they all really were written in orcish originally.

That could even be the basis for some kind of actual conflict where Snout loses access to the library just as he’s about to make a breakthrough, and needs to figure out a way to overcome the challenge. It wouldn’t be much, but it’d be loving something.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Well last chapter was called The Language Barrier. This one isn't. So that problem is solved now.

Edit: A mystery solved:



There's no way this could have been conveyed in the comic, of course!

Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jul 6, 2021

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


Rotten Red Rod posted:

Well last chapter was called The Language Barrier. This one isn't. So that problem is solved now.

RIght, this chapter is called... The Library Card, right? We still haven't seen the card get any play in this breakneck narrative.

Invisible Clergy
Sep 25, 2015

"Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces"

Malachi 2:3

YF-23 posted:

RIght, this chapter is called... The Library Card, right? We still haven't seen the card get any play in this breakneck narrative.

I mean Snout already has a library card. He gave it to Thelonious, but Mookie forgot about that and it doesn't look like Snout needed to present it to get that big pile of books.

I can't wait for the next arc of oldgan. It's definitely one of the worst.

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Invisible Clergy posted:

I can't wait for the next arc of oldgan. It's definitely one of the worst.

It's 100% Mookie taking the bitterness over the mentioned breakup out on two of the characters.

YF-23
Feb 17, 2011

My god, it's full of cat!


Invisible Clergy posted:

I mean Snout already has a library card. He gave it to Thelonious, but Mookie forgot about that and it doesn't look like Snout needed to present it to get that big pile of books.

I can't wait for the next arc of oldgan. It's definitely one of the worst.

Nah I think the card will get some play, he'll probably try to check out with some books and it'll be like "oh no the card's gone" and no-one will explain why Arudak can't check the books out for him while we waste a few more weeks trying to get the card back.

Billy Gnosis
May 18, 2006

Now is the time for us to gather together and celebrate those things that we like and think are fun.

Rotten Red Rod posted:

Well last chapter was called The Language Barrier. This one isn't. So that problem is solved now.

Edit: A mystery solved:



There's no way this could have been conveyed in the comic, of course!


There is no way he isn't covering his rear end over such an obvious question. Though I guess based on his past, I'm still not convinced he understands that the reader has a different perspective than him and can't read his mind.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

amigolupus posted:

Come to think of it, Snout is using a small paint brush to write on his journal, right? I'd understand if he was using a pen or a quill, but a brush seems really awkward to use.

He also literally has never dipped it in an inkwell. It just always has wet ink on it for some reason.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

the best giant library in the world only had books about this one dude

Vonnie
Sep 13, 2011

Caphi posted:

This library run by orcs for a city of orcs sure has a lot of books about orcs in English.

It's in English because Snout learned to read Orcish in a day in the last chapter.

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
Do you think he even asked if they had books about Dominic?

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Bismuth posted:

Do you think he even asked if they had books about Dominic?

What, you mean the one specific book that he came here to find? I'm sure he looked for it off-panel and Mookie will clarify on Twitter that they didn't have it.

Beelzebufo
Mar 5, 2015

Frog puns are toadally awesome


A reminder that going to Maltak in the first place was all about finding this:

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


Huh he used to be bothered to draw a less lazy number of cells per page didn't he

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
I forgot about the "City of Glass Eldariat Library." Who nuked the Desert of Eldariat To Die?

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Beelzebufo posted:

A reminder that going to Maltak in the first place was all about finding this:



haha holy poo poo the art actually got worse

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.
Yeah I'm actually surprised at how much more effort he used to put into this, its been a pretty huge step down hasnt it

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

Codependent Poster posted:

the best giant library in the world only had books about this one dude

I initially thought that when I read the response, but it seems more like Mookie was trying to say "The library has no other books by or about J. Deegan"

Which is pretty crap; there should probably be some reference books you can find with some information about J. Deegan, unless the poetry book with an extensive About the Author page for Adrack Bulgak had only a "J. Deegan was here too" sentence.

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!
You know what actually I could believed that Mookie did consider that Snout would try and fail to research Jacob before Adrak, but I think he's just so checked outta this comic that he didn't want to put the effort in to show Snout asking about Jacob first. What was he gonna do, paste in five panels?

MiracleFlare
Mar 27, 2012
Even the worker in a tiny open-air library out in the middle of nowhere was able to give Snout directions on where he might be able to find a book they didn't have, so the explanation falls apart unless the Maltak library's resources are in really dire straits. All in all it's not the worst writing issue, but it does show the problems of writing with so little forethought. Jacob was probably meant to just be a fun namedrop that people weren't supposed to think too hard about, but now it raises a ton of questions about why Snout isn't looking deeper into the Deegan bibliography (at least not on-screen).

Twelve by Pies posted:

I forgot about the "City of Glass Eldariat Library." Who nuked the Desert of Eldariat To Die?

Nuclear fire was the only way to cleanse the desert after the Scarlet Woman sullied it with her adulterous vibes

Riot Bus
Jan 8, 2020
It's very dumb that he spent the time having that orcling show up to tell Snout Veth would be late in a way that affected nothing, but he didn't have time to show that Snout tried to look up J Deegan and found nothing. He literally could have just had him write a note to the book lady asking for J Deegan and have her shrug helplessly or write back "no, sorry". It wouldn't have been hard.

I find it very hard to believe that there aren't books about the Deegans as an entire family in an orc library though, unless they have somehow been purposefully wiped from existence. Which, while possible, it's hard to follow if their absence is meant to be weird or not. Also, you'd think that Arudak or Ink Witch could have told him this by now if there was some kind of conspiracy about it.

Like seriously, Miranda was a super important mage, his dad was a really important orc relations guy, Greg was (I assume) one of the most powerful white mages of his time, Luna is the Watercaller, Dominic was Dominic... how is there not a bunch of literature about this?

Beelzebufo
Mar 5, 2015

Frog puns are toadally awesome





Mookie just directly staring at us now, saying "See, there's the explanation! It all makes sense!"


Also, that's not new information there with the infernal redemption. That's what I was talking about before, where Bulgak redeems himself in hell, and like all redeemed souls, promptly explodes.

Riot Bus
Jan 8, 2020
Ohhh right now that you mention it, I remember the redemption-splosion. I would comment further but that's coming up soon in the Oldgan reread so may as well leave it as a surprise.

Emrikol
Oct 1, 2015
There's a waiting list, so the delay caused by Snout's card is effectively meaningless. I didn't expect Mookie to find a way to undercut even this minor complication, but he did it.

At any rate, Snout doesn't need to leave any time soon, so it's more of a nuisance than an obstacle.

Riot Bus posted:

I find it very hard to believe that there aren't books about the Deegans as an entire family in an orc library though, unless they have somehow been purposefully wiped from existence. Which, while possible, it's hard to follow if their absence is meant to be weird or not. Also, you'd think that Arudak or Ink Witch could have told him this by now if there was some kind of conspiracy about it.

Like seriously, Miranda was a super important mage, his dad was a really important orc relations guy, Greg was (I assume) one of the most powerful white mages of his time, Luna is the Watercaller, Dominic was Dominic... how is there not a bunch of literature about this?
I've been wondering whether the orc nationalists who were mentioned as having taken and held the city some time back didn't conduct a purge.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Bismuth posted:

Do you think he even asked if they had books about Dominic?

Snout hasn't even asked what Corpsemomwife's name is. There's no way asking about Dominic ever crossed his mind.

Wait, what do you mean Snout's main character trait is supposed to be 'curious'?

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
So Mookie is just waiting for us to lose interest so he can go back to drawing torture porn right? Well, tough luck. I've stuck thru 9 Chickweed Lane, I can stick thru this. Do your blandest!

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Emrikol posted:

The ink witches also have giant ink brushes instead of brooms.

An interesting idea if anything came of it which, of course, it didn't.

yeah actually they will
Aug 18, 2012
Oh great, Prento's in this?

TheHan
Oct 29, 2011

Grind, you poor fool!
Grind straight for the stars!
C'mon Snout what kind of researcher are you, use your key words! Shintula, Zombie Alive, Deegan. All of Snout's research consists of the book he's currently reading spoonfeeding him the title of another book he can go read, has he ever read the content of a page and used that information for anything.

Cloacamazing!
Apr 18, 2018

Too cute to be evil
I'm not even surprised that Prento wrote books about Dominic Deegan. Hell, his entire class probably wrote book fellating him for the rest of their lives. That seems like something that would happen.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Is Snout's special power that he has no responsibilities or material worries, so he can spend all day reading and researching? The concept of money came up precisely once, after which the ink witch solved that problem, but then he apparently was able to afford food and supplies just fine after she ditched him anyway.

Edit: Mookie's twitter update for this page accidentally described how every conflict plays out in his comics:



The hero encounters an obstacle... Or does he??? (No)

Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Jul 7, 2021

Riot Bus
Jan 8, 2020
Calling it now: that guy switched out his card but instead of this being a problem whatever he has now is actually better and will mean he gets the book immediately instead of having to wait.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Also a lot to unpack about this tweet:



1. Mookie still really likes and thinks about the aged-like-hot-cheese Spacaballs, enough to post a tweet about it in the year of our lord, 2021.
2. He apparently thinks Colonel Sanderz was an "unsung" comedic hero? I mean, it's been a while since I saw that movie, but it's not like I forgot that guy. He was there and he was the participant in many jokes, yes, and his timing was good because, you know, he's a professional actor and it was a comedic script written by professional writers.
3. He thinks the moment where the Colonel dodges the camera as it zooms in was "unnoticed if you're not looking for it". It was... A pretty obvious joke, my dude. I saw it and understood it right away and I last saw this movie when I was like 10.

Captain Kosmos
Mar 28, 2010

think of it like the "Who's Who" of genitals

Riot Bus posted:

Calling it now: that guy switched out his card but instead of this being a problem whatever he has now is actually better and will mean he gets the book immediately instead of having to wait.

Yeah, it's going to be some kind VIP library card.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

Rotten Red Rod posted:

1. Mookie still really likes and thinks about the aged-like-hot-cheese Spacaballs, enough to post a tweet about it in the year of our lord, 2021.

:frogout: Spaceballs is still pretty great.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Spaceballs still rules.

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SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

Samovar posted:

An interesting idea if anything came of it which, of course, it didn't.
Pictured: 100% of the times Ink Witch has used the giant brush:




The magical writing constructed this way exploded when Snout touched it, so she then just wrote with her finger on a page. Basically fingerpainting. Later Ink Witch demonstrates that she can just magic writing into existence: on a tabletop when she's mad at Arudak (she's "yelling" at Arudak using a method Snout can "overhear"...for some reason); on random scraps of paper when she's doing the fortune teller thing to raise money in Mongreltown (apparently ink witchcraft is a fairly useless magical specialty, if busking for tourists is basically the best money you can scare up using it, and that barely covers your room and board); and in Snout's journal, both by touching it (tapping with one fingertip to write a comically long infodump when she's explaining why she hates Arudak) and from across the room (when she transcribes her "conversation" with Corpsewife when they meet).

Which is to say the purpose of the giant brush appears to be that it is a cumbersome way to do a worse version of a trick she can casually do several other ways.

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