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What is the UWF ruleset? I know what it is in general but not the specifics.
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TTBF posted:What is the UWF ruleset? I know what it is in general but not the specifics. The main thing is you lose a point for a knock down or rope break or foul and you only have 5 points and if you lose them that's loss. Wins are either KO, submission or points, if it goes to the time-limit then whoever has the most points left wins.
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Jul 6, 2021 17:10
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Why did Chris Benoit have an extra patch of contrasting colour tights sewn into his crotch? I've never seen it before or since. Benoit even does it later years when his tights were the same colour (purple on purple, yellow on yellow).
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Jul 7, 2021 02:22
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Kosmo Gallion posted:Why did Chris Benoit have an extra patch of contrasting colour tights sewn into his crotch? I've never seen it before or since. Benoit even does it later years when his tights were the same colour (purple on purple, yellow on yellow). reinforcement for his powerful dong
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Jul 7, 2021 03:41
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Kosmo Gallion posted:Why did Chris Benoit have an extra patch of contrasting colour tights sewn into his crotch? I've never seen it before or since. Benoit even does it later years when his tights were the same colour (purple on purple, yellow on yellow). He was insane OP
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Jul 7, 2021 14:03
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Baby, let me show you my enclosed pool area...
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Jul 7, 2021 14:14
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Kosmo Gallion posted:Why did Chris Benoit have an extra patch of contrasting colour tights sewn into his crotch? I've never seen it before or since. Benoit even does it later years when his tights were the same colour (purple on purple, yellow on yellow). Saddle pants He was a horseman Wait what the gently caress is that actually it?
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Jul 7, 2021 15:14
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Gambit from the X-Men posted:Saddle pants Jodhpurs
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Jul 7, 2021 15:25
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I always assumed it was some kind of reinforcement to avoid the crotch of your tights ripping. Surely other people have had this style of tights before? I know Triple H did, but that went with his whole gimmick of being a snob and having his tights look like horse riding pants.
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Jul 7, 2021 15:29
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He was mentioned a few pages back, but a question about Kurrgan which probably has a very simple answer. I was rewatching Survivor Series 1997 and he was put over strong in the Truth Commission/DOA match. A few months later, he's a giant dancing goofball with no future to speak of. Is it as simple as "Vince lost interest in him" or "Vince saw him dance once and loved it so that's your gimmick now pal"?
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Jul 7, 2021 20:07
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CVagts posted:He was mentioned a few pages back, but a question about Kurrgan which probably has a very simple answer. I was rewatching Survivor Series 1997 and he was put over strong in the Truth Commission/DOA match. A few months later, he's a giant dancing goofball with no future to speak of. Is it as simple as "Vince lost interest in him" or "Vince saw him dance once and loved it so that's your gimmick now pal"? vince saw him dance at someone's wedding, specifically i forget who it was, maybe mick foley, who said in his book he told kurrgan "buddy if you go out on that dancefloor with your wife, and vince sees you, that's your gimmick from here to eternity"
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Jul 7, 2021 20:09
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Alaois posted:vince saw him dance at someone's wedding, specifically I think it was Don Callis who told him that
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Jul 7, 2021 20:14
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Never have a dancing gimmick. You will, at best, get stuck tag-teaming with Disco Inferno.
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Jul 7, 2021 20:17
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Kosmo Gallion posted:Why did Chris Benoit have an extra patch of contrasting colour tights sewn into his crotch? I've never seen it before or since. Benoit even does it later years when his tights were the same colour (purple on purple, yellow on yellow). Isn't there a thing where some guys wear trunks over full length tights (think Superman) so it's easier to hold them for suplexes and such?
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Jul 7, 2021 22:44
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Halloween Jack posted:Never have a dancing gimmick. You will, at best, get stuck tag-teaming with Disco Inferno. Natural Vibes is good, actually
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Jul 8, 2021 01:06
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Halloween Jack posted:Never have a dancing gimmick. You will, at best, get stuck tag-teaming with Disco Inferno. I remember the story Don Callis tells that he was out with Kurgan and Vince at some function or other and Kurgan was there with his wife and naturally wanted to dance with his wife and Don very, very fervently tried to talk him out of it and sure enough, Dancin' Kurgan not too long after. Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Jul 8, 2021 |
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Jul 8, 2021 18:16
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Only people I can think of who benefited from a dancing gimmick are Too Cool and Michael p.s. Hayes, and with Hayes the moonwalking thing was a small part of his overall shtick
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Jul 8, 2021 18:17
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Imagine being at work and your boss happens to pass by as you're singing a little tune and he likes it so he tells you that you'll have to do that every day from now on or you're fired.
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Jul 8, 2021 19:36
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When someone asks about solid, safe, and reliable hands in the ring, a few names come to mind; Chris Jericho, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, etc. Have any of them, or any other generally safe wrestler, ever botched so badly they injured someone else or ruined a match? I feel like every botch I've heard involving Bret was either injuring himself or it was the other person's fault.
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Jul 8, 2021 20:01
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Flair botched four marriages.
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Jul 8, 2021 20:03
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Well sure he also can't wrestle his way out of debt either but we'll be here all day trying to tabulate that.
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Jul 8, 2021 20:08
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Admiral Joeslop posted:When someone asks about solid, safe, and reliable hands in the ring, a few names come to mind; Chris Jericho, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, etc. Samoa Joe is extremely reliable but almost killed TJ Wilson/Tyson Kidd Jericho also accidentally stiffed Chyna and pissed off WWE so bad Vince demanded he go over his matches with X Pac until he earned his trust back Owen was safe as milk until the Austin incident D'Lo isn't on the level of Bret but was the definition of safe & reliable, but a freak accident paralyzed Droz and I think it killed D'Lo's career El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jul 8, 2021 |
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Jul 8, 2021 20:14
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Kane had a rep as being very safe. Heath Slater was also super safe.
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Jul 8, 2021 20:33
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When was the first major exposé on the worked aspect of wrestling? How did it impact the business? Also, I remember reading somewhere that a New York paper put out an exposé that basically killed the wrestling business in NYC for a quite a long time. Is there any way to access that article?
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Jul 8, 2021 20:43
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CHIVERS posted:When was the first major exposé on the worked aspect of wrestling? How did it impact the business? Also, I remember reading somewhere that a New York paper put out an exposé that basically killed the wrestling business in NYC for a quite a long time. Is there any way to access that article? Wrestling was banned in Paris in the 1860s due to being fixed.
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Jul 8, 2021 21:40
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Samoa Joe is extremely reliable but almost killed TJ Wilson/Tyson Kidd It takes two (or more) to do these things, and everyone involved could be a supremely safe worker and work amazing matches, but things still do go wrong. Wrestling is never going to be "safe". "Freak Accident" is the word, Droz even said "I have no hard feelings toward D’Lo because poo poo happens and everyone who gets involved in athletics, including WWE, knows the risks that exist. It was an accident.". https://prowrestlingstories.com/pro-wrestling-stories/droz-dlo-brown-injury/ It didn't kill his career, so much as changed him on a fundamental level. BooDooBoo fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Jul 8, 2021 |
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Jul 8, 2021 21:48
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BooDooBoo posted:It takes two (or more) to do these things, and everyone involved could be a supremely safe worker and work amazing matches, but things still do go wrong. Wrestling is never going to be "safe". I in no way blame D'Lo (or any of these folks except Owen for ignoring Steve's wishes wrt the style of piledriver to be used), but I do think any chance of a push went out the window the night that the injury went down. Droz is a good guy for taking everything in stride. I don't think it's fair, but I think him being black and not gassed to the gills were working against him already and it was the final nail. If he disagrees, that's fine, he has more of an inside track, obviously. But personally I tend to think that it hurt him on the long run with Vince, specifically. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Jul 8, 2021 |
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Jul 8, 2021 22:22
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Jericho also accidentally stiffed Chyna and pissed off WWE so bad Vince demanded he go over his matches with X Pac until he earned his trust back He also potatoed nitro girl Whisper by accident, which caused heat with HBK who apparently carried on like a huge baby about it even though he had definitely been in the business long enough to know that sometimes it happens and a fat lip is not a big deal in any way.
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Jul 8, 2021 22:30
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i think it's fine to get pissed when your wife gets punched after you probably assured her its totally safe
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Jul 8, 2021 22:40
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I don't think it's fair, but I think him being black and not gassed to the gills were working against him already and it was the final nail. Russo leaving at around the same time might have had an impact too I think. He seemed to be a big champion of D'Lo and Jarrett for some reason.
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Jul 8, 2021 22:43
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MassRafTer posted:Wrestling was banned in Paris in the 1860s due to being fixed. Wow. Knowing that, I wonder if Abe Lincoln worked heel or face?
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CHIVERS posted:Wow. Knowing that, I wonder if Abe Lincoln worked heel or face? https://allthatsinteresting.com/abraham-lincoln-wrestling Fought off local bullies Almost was on the receiving end of a group beat-down Nearly undefeated I'd say he was a face.
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titties posted:He also potatoed nitro girl Whisper by accident, which caused heat with HBK who apparently carried on like a huge baby about it even though he had definitely been in the business long enough to know that sometimes it happens and a fat lip is not a big deal in any way. TIL that Shawn married a Nitro Girl. Now I'm super curious about the politics around that, if there were any. I always figured Shawn didn't settle down until he was off drugs, though I guess he didn't really settle much.
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Jul 9, 2021 00:10
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Admiral Joeslop posted:TIL that Shawn married a Nitro Girl. Now I'm super curious about the politics around that, if there were any. I always figured Shawn didn't settle down until he was off drugs, though I guess he didn't really settle much. IIRC she was retired by then?
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Jul 9, 2021 00:21
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I in no way blame D'Lo (or any of these folks except Owen for ignoring Steve's wishes wrt the style of piledriver to be used), but I do think any chance of a push went out the window the night that the injury went down. Droz is a good guy for taking everything in stride. Better than I have talked about it, but I still recall how even to me who knows less than nothing about to actually wrestle Owen's set up for the piledriver didn't look right. Like Austin's head was way too far down. Admiral Joeslop posted:TIL that Shawn married a Nitro Girl. Now I'm super curious about the politics around that, if there were any. I always figured Shawn didn't settle down until he was off drugs, though I guess he didn't really settle much. If I recall correctly, it was Whisper who helped him get cleaned up.
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Jul 9, 2021 00:31
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Dawgstar posted:Better than I have talked about it, but I still recall how even to me who knows less than nothing about to actually wrestle Owen's set up for the piledriver didn't look right. Like Austin's head was way too far down. Austin specifically asked Owen not to do it like that, and it might have been that Steve didn't know how to take it.
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Jul 9, 2021 00:34
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Austin specifically asked Owen not to do it like that, and it might have been that Steve didn't know how to take it. I don't know how you'd take that. His head was way too low and he couldn't bend his neck.
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Jul 9, 2021 00:52
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1glitch0 posted:I don't know how you'd take that. His head was way too low and he couldn't bend his neck. yeah, that was all on Owen.
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Jul 9, 2021 01:04
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If you're taking a crotch-facing piledriver, it has to be a tombstone. If you're facing out, you can take the sitout version. The way I remember Austin telling it was that he told Owen not to sitout, but he did it anyway. I wonder more why they didn't call an audible for the ending though. Having Austin pin him anyway after that looked silly, and could've made his injury worse.
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sticklefifer posted:If you're taking a crotch-facing piledriver, it has to be a tombstone. If you're facing out, you can take the sitout version. The way I remember Austin telling it was that he told Owen not to sitout, but he did it anyway. I believe if Austin lost he had to kiss Owen's rear end. Still should have just called it a no contest or just ignored the stipulation.
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