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Amoeba102 posted:It's sarcasm that doesn't work. Whoosh. Straight over my head that sailed. That said, after some of the more recent posts in this thread, you can see how I missed that.
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Launchpad McQuack posted:"2 weeks to flatten the curve and give our hospitals a chance to get ready." Actually getting covid is bad
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 11:24 |
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Tommunist posted:Actually getting covid is bad Won't someone think of the numbers????????
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 11:25 |
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Centusin posted:I can't believe that telephoto lens photos of people outside was still enough to convince people that it's a nothing lockdown, it's just permanently April 2020 in Auspol I guess. If you look at the recent google mobility data you'll see -33% for retail and recreation spaces, -18% for parks, -62% for public transport and -35% for workplaces, that's for all of NSW and many places aren't in lockdown. There's been so many photos of people outside at Bondi floating around, but the Waverley council area is -50% in all areas except supermarkets which are -30%. This sort of lockdown seems to have restricted mobility and didn't involve human rights violations by locking people in public housing towers on short notice and never apologising for it. Hrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm https://twitter.com/juliette_io/status/1412604628584206342?s=20 Here we can compare two recent lock downs. I ask the thread to come to its own conclusion s based on the evidence.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 11:28 |
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Tommunist posted:Hrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm it appears (from my, heh, brief glance) that NSW isn't really locking down at all. Why do these ghouls lust for the blood of the vulnerable???
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 11:32 |
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 11:38 |
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Tommunist posted:Hrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Isn't the conclusion what I posted? Considering I was never comparing which lockdown was the most lockdown, I was just stating that it's disingenuous to refer to it as a 'mockdown' when there has clearly been a decrease in all areas. Grocery shopping was well above baseline pre-lockdown, and is now at baseline levels. For example, pre lockdown Bankstown was +40% compared to Baseline and is now +15%. The drop would be even bigger if the lockdown was state wide, but it isn't and hopefully won't need to be.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 12:16 |
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Centusin posted:Isn't the conclusion what I posted? Considering I was never comparing which lockdown was the most lockdown, I was just stating that it's disingenuous to refer to it as a 'mockdown' when there has clearly been a decrease in all areas. Grocery shopping was well above baseline pre-lockdown, and is now at baseline levels. For example, pre lockdown Bankstown was +40% compared to Baseline and is now +15%. The drop would be even bigger if the lockdown was state wide, but it isn't and hopefully won't need to be. We can clearly see the difference between an effective lockdown and what ever Sydney is doing
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 12:18 |
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Tommunist posted:We can clearly see the difference between an effective lockdown and what ever Sydney is doing In Sydney’s defence () case numbers remaining relatively flat support that the lockdown has been relatively effective at flattening the curve. How long they’d need to keep this style of lockdown to achieve elimination of community transmission given delta strain though, who the gently caress knows but it doesn’t look great. I also think there’s a big chance given comments by the Premier and Health Minister that they’ll do something incredibly loving stupid like say we’ve stabilised at 20 cases a day so we can loosen restrictions and get some real exponential growth going
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 12:27 |
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Solemn Sloth posted:In Sydney’s defence () case numbers remaining relatively flat support that the lockdown has been relatively effective at flattening the curve. How long they’d need to keep this style of lockdown to achieve elimination of community transmission given delta strain though, who the gently caress knows but it doesn’t look great While true that there hasn't been massive spikes in cases there seems to still be a non insignificant ammount of community non house hold transmission and cases out in the community while infectious. I'd posit that stricter restrictions on movement/allowed work would be more effective in seeing cases go down. I dont really think that people on Bondi Beach is really the issue but is probably more being spread by parties/work/orgies by NRL players. https://twitter.com/juliette_io/status/1412578113712640001?s=20 Solemn Sloth posted:I also think there’s a big chance given comments by the Premier and Health Minister that they’ll do something incredibly loving stupid like say we’ve stabilised at 20 cases a day so we can loosen restrictions and get some real exponential growth going The NSW government has a massive collection of incredibly dumb humans who will 100% open em up leading to the big lockie D in a month TammyHEH fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Jul 7, 2021 |
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Also hosed up you'd defend Sydney muyb wtf
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 12:44 |
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Sydney will have one hundred cases this week.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 12:53 |
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Tommunist posted:While true that there hasn't been massive spikes in cases there seems to still be a non insignificant ammount of community non house hold transmission and cases out in the community while infectious. I'd posit that stricter restrictions on movement/allowed work would be more effective in seeing cases go down. I think those numbers indicate that NSWs previous approach of trusting contact tracing to get on top of an outbreak in the community just can’t work for delta strain.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 12:56 |
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Tommunist posted:Also hosed up you'd defend Sydney muyb wtf I’m sorry I’m sorry I’m trying to delete it
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 12:56 |
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Muyb has fallen.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 13:07 |
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He is now a Swans supporter.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 13:08 |
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At least Tim Smith isn’t a member.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 13:09 |
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Tim Smith is definitely a member.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 13:17 |
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hambeet posted:He is now a Swans supporter. Literally Warwick Capper, Mr Speakah.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 13:18 |
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thatbastardken posted:or get bitten by a dog! doesn't need to be a stitch-worthy injury even. I moved a ladder with my cordless drill with a huge sharp drillbit on it then tried to catch the drill with my arms when it toppled while my partner watched, knowing what was about to happen but saying nothing because they didn't think I was that stupid (They were wrong, I was that stupid).
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 14:53 |
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Sounds like they might expand the business grants to under $75k. Thank gently caress, because I'm sitting here at home watching case numbers go up in the busiest time of my year, making absolutely zero income. I don't understand why they can't just turn JobKeeper into "Lockdowm Payment" (they should have done for Melbourne, but, you know, now it's affecting me) but I knew that the comprehensive covid rescue back in 2020 was directly a result of their own pants-making GBS threads fear and not out of actual concern for living humans. It's super short sighted because it doesn't take an economist with 6 months of data to tell you there is a direct link between how much they are willing to support people and how seriously they will take lockdown measures.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 20:54 |
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Chadzok posted:Sounds like they might expand the business grants to under $75k. Thank gently caress, because I'm sitting here at home watching case numbers go up in the busiest time of my year, making absolutely zero income. yeah, but Bootstraps Berejiklian and Scrooge Morrison don't want you to get fat off welfare. Lifters and leaners, mate.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 23:04 |
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Yeah I think this one's gotten away from us. We're going to be plague city and we will spread it to everyone. Gladys and the Prime Minister of Cronulla will embrace Nurgle-thought.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 23:24 |
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Chadzok posted:Sounds like they might expand the business grants to under $75k. Thank gently caress, because I'm sitting here at home watching case numbers go up in the busiest time of my year, making absolutely zero income. They didn't keep JobKeeper because Morrison really doesn't want states to lock down. Simple as that.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 23:24 |
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Recoome posted:yeah, but Bootstraps Berejiklian and Scrooge Morrison don't want you to get fat off welfare. Lifters and leaners, mate. I hold a noose mate
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 23:29 |
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Senor Tron posted:They didn't keep JobKeeper because Morrison really doesn't want states to lock down. Simple as that. Part of me suspects he regrets closing the borders in the first place now that he's seen governments in other parts of the world face zero (political) consequences for their "have some hand sanitiser and get back to work" strategies
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 00:53 |
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Christ Almighty, just reading this run of "rent stress" stories on the ABC, and this country has no intention of unfucking itself.
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 01:58 |
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Numbers look... worsening for NSW. I reckon Federal LNP will announce some form of assistance to NSW and we will be in a proper lockdown by Monday, if not earlier. If they let it out of the bag like Hazzard suggests, they'll lose both Federal and State elections. Edit: This is on top of face masks being mandatory for those attending school next week, could be a big wake up call to the community when they get whiff their little loved ones are being affected.
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 02:18 |
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Christ Gladys grow a spine and lock it down. None of this "Please don't spread the virus" poo poo works. It's so obvious they're just passing the blame to the population.
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 02:21 |
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they bet the fuckin farm on 'lets just hold off lockdown until school holidays because that might make ppl compliant and then open 'er up' and it has failed catastrophically.
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 02:24 |
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Infected number goes up, number of those in iso goes down. Gold standard.
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 02:29 |
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Thank gently caress for this, though: https://twitter.com/matttburke/status/1412946624674897920
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 02:42 |
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Gladys marginally less of an idiot than previously thought
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 02:45 |
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There is an alternate universe out there where Gladys resigned for one of her numerous scandals and Perrottet is the premier and runs with a let-her-rip strategy and half the media goes along with it because Sydney of course is too big to fail
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 02:48 |
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its absolutely incredible that the NSW opposition is given zero coverage at all. not that anyone knows who the loving leader is or who they are or why they exist. this could absolutely undo gladys' election chances if there was any reasonable attempt and unbiased coverage in the media but lol
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 03:00 |
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Kinda weird that Victoria has exactly the same unhinged pro-Lib media but Andrews still managed to not only win, but win in a landslide. What was the deal with that? I was living overseas at the time.
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 03:03 |
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i hate seeing number go up, but seeing morrison eat a poo poo sandwich for his awful messaging is almost worth it
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 03:12 |
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Laserface posted:its absolutely incredible that the NSW opposition is given zero coverage at all. While yes, the media is feral, NSW Labor is still a wasteland. Minns is going with the classic "hide at the back of the class and hope no-one calls on you" opposition strategy that Labor have perfected over ten years now.
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# ? Jul 8, 2021 03:22 |
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Destrado posted:While yes, the media is feral, NSW Labor is still a wasteland. Minns is going with the classic "hide at the back of the class and hope no-one calls on you" opposition strategy that Labor have perfected over ten years now. Also even with the media going full mask off right wing nut job in Victoria the opposition hasn’t even been a consideration since the pandemic except when they failed a spill
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